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0 voted versus people who are expected to vote for romney in the ohio poll. look, chuck and i agree on this, any political operative will tell you, we much rather have the vote already cast than well we're going to vote for you. it's the difference between somebody writing you a check and somebody saying, i'll write you a check in 26 days. i get the whole -- >> or the check's in the mail. >> i get the romney argument and they're probably right for all of the reasons chuck talked about in terps of the demographic of the supporters in ohio but they have to be concerned about the numbers in the n...

rundown." >> abe lincoln behind you. >> let me go to chris cillizza first. >> sure. >> back in washington, talk about the stake as head. what are the two burdens, if you will for the two candidates tonight? >> well, look, i mean i think it is relatively obvious that mitt romney had some momentum coming off of his debate performance last week. i think that what joe biden needs to do is blunt that momentum with a sort of a draw or a perceived victory. i think if he loses the debate in the same way that barack obama lost the debate to mitt romney, we'll see the momentum on the republica...