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from actual voters and caucusgoers instead of faceless polling percentages. what will they say and how much say will they have? there's so much swirling around the republican primary this year. so much that could change everything and yet so much that could change nothing. let me explain. the accepted wisdom right now is that donald trump will be the nominee. but what happens if he can't get on the ballot? there are two states, maine and colorado, saying someone who incited an insurrection can't run for federal office. will other states follow? and if they do, will the supreme court ...

per perhaps marjorie taylor greene. what should happened to them? should they be censured? should they be removed from committees? what do you think? >> well, i guess that's a decision for colleagues, right? i mean, my job is to put evidence out there. as i said at the end of that, it's like, i only know of one reason to seek a pardon. because you're worried that you're guilty, that you committed a crime. this is something they have to answer to their constituents. you know, i can't enforce rules of the house or do certain things unilaterally. but i think the bigger point is, listen,...

Of evidence that the president knew what he was doing. the breaking the law part, i think yes, personally. but, again, i like to leave that to doj. ironically, doj was on the stand today. they probably have a special interest in what happened at this moment. you mentioned the voting machines. think about this. the president asked rosen to seize voting machines. he said, i can't do it. so, the president calls cuccinelli at dhs and says, rosen here says you can seize voting machines. he never said that. that goes to show, you can't trust anything the president says. thankfully ken kuch nellie sa...

What do you think? >> i think there's a lot of dhs officials that yowe an explanation. jeff among them is joseph maher, who replaced me. he shut down all of the collection we had in place that would, sure as i'm sitting here, that we would have found and detected. these people were not hiding. this was in plain sight and he shut that down and he's now on the committee as a member. serving under one of the republicans. i'm for the committee, you know, finding the truth, the objective truth, and i'm concerned one of the people needs to testify is actually working on the committee. investigating ...

Caricature of him or his political opponents. he doesn't look like ken cuccinelli, and by the way, it was a close race with ken kuch -- cuccinelli. do you believe you have to turn him into a ken cuccinelli clone? >> i don't have to. he said he was in this race because of donald trump. his first endorsement after he got the nomination was donald trump. his first speech after the nomination, he said i want to ban abortions and put more guns on the street. that's who he is. eblgd even -- i can't believe i'm even saying this, this guy could be more extreme than ken cuccinelli if that is even possi...