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it s not in my nature to do stuff like that. right. right. if anybody knows supreme, people would know i m the more humble type with my authority. i m guilty by association pretty much. mr. kitchings, guilty by association. well, i appreciate you talking to us, okay? but take my advice to heart and just chill out. you don t need any more charge before you go to court. all right, man. thank you. all right. take him back. you kind of flip-flopped. was some kind of hit put out on a specific officer? did i send it? no. do everybody think that i ve done it? yes. they think that supreme has his hands in a lot of things. i think he wants to project himself as being very powerful. if he is projected as pulling that much power to have inmates assault officers, the other inmates might respect him more. might project him to be more of a powerful individual. ....
Refer to him as supreme. a lot of people call me supreme. supreme is the most high. i have a reputation that i must hold. officer last has observed gathers influence over other inmates. if they re all yelling and screaming, he can stop them. if they re all quiet and he s mad, he can start them, as well. i can direct an inmate, a brother, a person, even a non-disciple. if i was to send word to the street to handle anything that needs to be taken care of, it will get handled. several weeks earlier, an inmate tied to folk nation assaulted an officer in the jail. now sergeant kitchings wants to find out if gathers was involved. rumor has it on the street that he s been putting out orders to assault officers. hopefully we re able to confirm or deny that information today. good evening. how you doing, man? go on and have a seat, melvin. ....
a warning? yeah. you re looking at some serious charges, all right, and more charge to that, that s a felony. there s about so much you can do to me right now. you that true. but you go to court with additional felony charges especially putting out order and hits like that even though you might not intend it to be that serious, they are serious. and that s going to go against you when you go to court. you feel like you have a glimmer of hope, you need to hold on to that hope. doing stuff like this, that hope can fade real quickly. you look perplexed. what s wrong? trying to think of something? no. okay. a wise man always think before he speak. and dealing with people of your caliber and the person of my nation is, like playing chess. we re on two different sides of the table. that s right. as kitchings and greene press gathers, he begin to backtrack. it s not in my nature to do stuff like that. right. right. if anybody knows supreme, people would know i m th ....
Humble type with my authority. i m guilty by association pretty much. mr. kitchings, guilty by association. well, i appreciate you talking to us, okay? but take my advice to heart and just chill out. you don t need any more charge before you go to court. all right, man. thank you. all right. take him back. you kind of flip-flopped. was some kind of hit put out on a specific officer? did i send it? no. do everybody think that i ve done it? yes. they think that supreme has his hands in a lot of things. i think he wants to project himself as being very powerful. if he is projected as pulling that much power to have inmates assault officers, the other inmates might respect him more. might project him to be more of a powerful individual. personally, i do not believe gathers ordered the assault. i don t think he pull that s much weight around here to have ordered that assault. ....
School through high school. by knowing his family, it helped in being able to talk and engage in conversation. sergeant kitchings hopes that officer greene s relationship with gathers will provide insight into gathers role with the game folk notion. a set of gangs under a common name, folk nation, black gangster disciples, manic, latin disciples. out of chicago, they fall under the umbrella of folk nation. we have documented cases of a leader of a gang sending out orders to members to assault other inmates. we ve had some members get caught up with smuggling contraband to the facility. they have assaulted staff before. so they get it can be a real big problem. melvin gathers, he is a second lieutenant in folk nation. he is considered one of the higher ranks. when its come down to his gang affiliations here, his chest is out, he s out. mr. gathers refers to himself and i ve heard other inmates ....