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All bolton's behavior was this is bad. >> unless a drug deal -- >> this is not something -- >> he call it's a crime. >> this is not a small thing. like john bolton exercising all of the things that he's most famous for besides his ideology. he is a knife fighter. he sees things he doesn't like. he sees things that are not in his interest or he thinks are not in america's interest and he figures out a way to play the inside game to cut those things off. this is a guy who knows how to get that stuff done. a, he failed here and that tells you that the president was unmovable on this because he wa...

Tell-all book about his time and tensions in the trump administration. so whether or not he spills a lot of that ahead of time on capitol hill still remains to be seen. but bolton is someone based on his past memoir and testimonials about his time in the george w. bush administration is not someone above settling scores. he is a bureaucratic knife fighter who relishes bringing out his private disagreements with senior administration officials perhaps even the president of the united states itself into the public realm. whether that's on capitol hill or in his own writings or personal testimoni...

John bolton is willing to not just contradict the white house, but the president himself. the day he departed, there's a dispute as to whether he resigned or whether the president fired him. john bolton is a knife fighter. he never backs down. he went out here with guns blazing, to mix my metaphors for you. we do know john bolton does like to set the record straight. as you can tell from some of his language, he can be quite colorful. we know that from various memos he's written. john bolton could potentially be a problem from the white house. however, the official line from the white house is...

He's not been in the ring. >> and paul ryan 678 okay. again. paul ryan is a great guy, he's not a knife fighter. his as a wonkish policy guy. so joe biden has to take off his gloves and show he wants to be president. he's got to be able to fight. democrats are not -- they're not going to give him any slack. do you remember during the gore/bush debates in 2000, there was always an overcorrection by the gore campaign. he did this, then the next he did that. >> a lot of nights groaning like this. >> yeah. you remember better than i do. i wonder if there's a risk for the vice president if his camp...

>> of course, like any president, he had a record and i think some of the things he would say were more successful than others and obviously in an america where there are two primary streams of thought, a lot of things that one party applauds the other party will decry. but one thing that i think almost everybody would agree on was what a good, decent, kind man george bush was. i don't want to overstate. the fact was he could be a political knife fighter. anybody who witnessed the 1988 political campaign when he ran a very tough campaign against michael due kakis knows he was capable of that a...