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To -- owe finances, knows how to organize it the way i like. he has been with the family for many years. it's not just stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. this is a guy thinking early on how the trump organization can get into russia in the first place in terms of the deals he has knowledge of. >> what this tape does, it puts him in the middle of playoffs and russia deals and shows this guy was involved with everything. >> in president trump's mind, michael cohen was the fixer. he associated cohen with sort of handling his problems. but weisselberg, in a way a much bigger figure. he's the one w...

This tape, you hear the president talking about this deal to buy this information. this is something they denied having any knowledge of, but clearly the president knew about this, does this raise any questions at all for you about his honesty? >> there was no surprise. there is no expectation that that wasn't the case as far as i was concerned. so once again, look, in dask right now when we talk about what the issues are, the senate is focused on policy. we're in the middle of a couple days before the end of the year, we're doing budget, we have cyber activity, flood insurance, we're focused ...

>> because from a legal standpoint, a wife isn't going to be called in to testify against her husband. >> right. she is -- she has privilege with anything that he might have said to her and her opinion about whether or not this affair took place would certainly not be legally relevant, other than any communications that she may have had. so that's just an argument of no substance. but this is a pattern with giuliani. he keeps making things up and representing subjects that he has no knowledge of. the same day, secretary of state pompeo slapped giuliani down, because giuliani said, you know, ki...

Whether or not this affair took place would certainly not be legally relevant, other than any communications that she may have had. so that's just an argument of no substance. but this is a pattern with giuliani. he keeps making things up and representing subjects that he has no knowledge of. the same day, secretary of state pompeo slapped giuliani down, because giuliani said, you know, kim jong-un came begging and crawling back to the summit. and pompeo said, well, he doesn't speak for us in foreign policy. so he's just out there riffing on television. and i don't think anyone is, at this poi...

He had no knowledge of. there's nothing innocuous about discussing adoption policy. that's related to u.s. sanctions on russia. that looks like potentially evidence o quid pro quo. >> when the president dictated that statement, t statement said that that meeting was not a campaign issue at the time. even though the meeting was set up as an opportunity for the russians to hand over, quote, dirt on hillary clinton. >> our reporting shows that there was another version of this statement that had been written by attorneys which was apparently more truthful. then donald trump got on the airplane an...