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Jail for several years for counterfeiting one vote. If they try to vote illegally once, he tried to steal the entire election. And his lawyers out there are saying that its just a matter of him expressing his First Amendment rights. And that is deranged. That is a deranged argument. Trumps lawyers also making the case that mike pence will be the defenses, quote, best witness. Today on cnn, pence contradicted lauras take on the Pressure Campaign to block the certification of president bidens election victory. What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way, asking is covered by the First Amendment. In the days before the president was talking about us rejecting votes. And then late in the process, his lawyers suggested that we return votes to the states. But frankly, the day before january 6th, if memory serves, they came back, his lawyers did, and said we want you to reject votes outright. They were asking me to overtur

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