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A lot of people have lamented about from several years ago. even internal data from trump campaign indicated that the president is going to struggle in certain key places. the president's maximum is about 40% at best within the margin of error, which can be 3% less than 40%. that means his room for error is significantly decreased. joe biden i would argue has the best opportunity not only with obama -- trump voters, but african americans who did not turn out in 2016 in key places like michigan. >> do you think it's going to help biden or hurt him? >> i don't think it will. donald trump is what...

>> let's talk serious stuff. you know how to do this. i think it's a mistake for biden to go into cory booker. i think he should shoot down, first of all, no matter what cory says. he starts talking about the situation with police in newark, certainly cory knows more about that than biden will ever know in a briefing session. and the danger of that is you do get gas lighted. you go into a situation where you don't all the facts. and what cory has to say is what you don't know, mr. president, is i hired x many new policemen from that group and biden says oh, i didn't know that. it's tough to go...

Abby. abby: i love it. a utah man. ed: put him in the mix. you like golf. >> i do like golf. i have an airplane to get on: i was a place kicker. they touch me they threw a flag. ed: let's talk serious stuff. talking about throwing flags in washington. all kinds of chaos. the fisa abuse, all. this in all seriousness, people want to see accountability. finally. and last night there was a very late development as we were going to bed that finally members of the house and senate are going to get a look at those fisa applications. is this for real or is it another maneuver? >> i don't know. this wi...

Frustrated by early stumble and looking for shake-up. according to the times, mr. trump and staff are rethinking. from now on he would be looped in. another changes would be checks on unvetted power. who oversees the implementation of the orders, travel ban on s mus -- muslim countries. starting correspondent, glenn, let's talk serious stuff. is your reporting that steve

Interviewed you. it was about four, five years ago. when you first became leader during that time. you mentioned jack and morgan. i met morgan. jack wasn't around then. you better mention your wife or you'll be in trouble. >> i'm the only civil rights leader when the supreme court decisions came down had to watch his wife on cnn to get the talking points and then go on after her. yes, i have a very serious wife lea. jack was an aspiration then and is now. >> let's talk serious stuff. the biggest civil rights challenges still remaining? >> we are in a real fight on voting rights. it's likely to...