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court. yesterday the state supreme court ruled that the former president should be barred from holding office under the constitution's so-called insurrection clause. however state justices have agreed to pause their decision until january 4, meaning donald trump has time to appeal, which he said that he will do at the u.s. supreme court, quote, swiftly. so how much of a shot does he have of reversing it? the use of this little known civil war era provision is unprecedented, and yesterday's decision was also not unanimous. so we'll dig into the dissenting opinions and how they could p...

Especially at the irs. >> do you know how far issa is from that? >> i know how far he is. >> he's guilty, let's have a hearing and prove it. >> i know. what i also know about darrell issa is he's a guy who chafes under what -- what he sees is the idea is he's not properly respected in washington. >> you're talking about id here. >> david's engaging a little psychology. i was going to do the same. >> he spent 13 million bucks and threw it away trying to be a big shot senator from california. he's trying to make being a congressman, one of 50-some congressmen from california into a big shot job....

Personal sense, have they put a finger, have they touched the president here? the irs thing is run by a republican, doug shulman. he's probably a bureaucrat, not a bad guy, but he didn't run a very organized shop over there. nothing to do with president obama. you get the stuff with benghazi. i haven't heard one word that put a finger on the president, what he did in that horrible tragedy. look what happened to us on 9/11. we lost new york, lost washington. nobody blamed bush for being a bad guys. these republicans call obama a bad guy for what happened in western libya during a revolution. it...

And campaigning to make it about darrell issa and not about what happened at the irs, right, david? >> that's what i'm doing. i don't think it is about darrell issa. let me ask you this, as a former loyalist to the president and permanent lifetime loyalist in a personal sense, have they put a finger, have they touched the president here? the irs thing is run by a republican, doug shulman. he's probably a bureaucrat, not a bad guy, but he didn't run a very organized shop over there. nothing to do with president obama. you get the stuff with benghazi. i haven't heard one word that put a finger o...

Loyalist to the president and permanent lifetime loyalist in a personal sense, have they put a finger, have they touched the president here? the irs thing is run by a republican, doug shulman. he's probably a bureaucrat, not a bad guy, but he didn't run a very organized shop over there. nothing to do with president obama. you get the stuff with benghazi. i haven't heard one word that put a finger on the president, what he did in that horrible tragedy. look what happened to us on 9/11. we lost new york, lost washington. nobody blamed bush for being a bad guys. these republicans call obama a bad...