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The ReidOut

>> trump followed that line about the miracle with a lie about killing babies after birth, which is not a real thing, ever. that also got no pushback from the fox anchors, of course. meanwhile, the two republicans trying to remain relevant in the race spent the night going of not the arsonist atop the republican field, but rather at each other, which our producers have helpfully summarized for you as follows. >> we don't need another mealy-mouth politician who just tells you what she thinks you want to hear. >> but every time he lies, drake university, don't turn this into a drinking game because you will be overserved by the end of the night. >> she's got this problem with ballistic podiatry, shooting herself in the foot every other day. >> he can call me any name and be de9ing as much as he wants. it doesn't change the fact ron is lying because ron is losing. >> meanwhile, the rest of the maga party has long since moved on with his maga cronies throwing everything at the wall

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The Faulkner Focus

harris, want to be more maga and the leader of the maga party donald trump. that's what they have to do but they have to make themselves different. tomorrow will be a key day for ron desantis. he is in second place. how can he differentiate himself from donald trump even though the main guy will not be on the debate stage? >> harris: can i ask a question? set the picture up there. the order of where everybody is standing. does it make a difference? >> i think it makes a difference because it signals visually to republican voters and everyone watching who is considered to be a favorite amongst republican voters. i also think it's critical. if you are number five like a chris christie or six like scott or four like haley, you won't to go after 1, 2, 3 to increase your standing and showcase you have what it takes to take on biden, kamala and democrats. >> harris: jose, come to you first with this.

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CNN Primetime

that's their argument. >> it's not going to help him, but i like will hurd. he's a decent public service. where he was wrong today was desantis being afraid of donald trump. i don't think the candidates are, they may be, i don't know. but they certainly are afraid of trump voters, and i don't know how you get nominated in the donald trump maga party and be against donald trump. donald trump is a defining factor of whether or not your considered legitimate or illegitimate and i have got a friend, hassan jeffries, whose brother hakeem jeffries is the minority leader. assange is a professor in ohio. he said to me that donald trump is the first president that we have had two is not bound by either party, principle, or patriotism. and if you think about it that way, he is completely uncontrollable and it is a tragedy that here we are, in the beginning of the, the late beginning of the 21st century, and without a united states president who really is not a

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CNN Tonight

afraid of donald trump. i don't think these candidates are that afraid of donald. trump they may be, i don't know. but they are certainly afraid of donald trump's voters, which maybe is what -- they are afraid of the voters. i don't know how you get nominated in the donald trump maga party and be against donald trump. donald trump is a defining factor of whether or not you are considered legitimate or legitimate. i've got a friend, hassan jeffries, whose brother, hakeem jeffries, the minority leader. hassan is a professor in ohio. he said to me, donald trump is the first president we've had who is not bound by either party, principle, or patriotism. and if you think about it that way, he is completely uncontrollable, it is a tragedy that here we are in the beginning of, the late beginning of the 21st century and we've had the united states president who really is not a patriot, he's the least patriotic person we've ever seen in the office. >> i will say, and i'm not trying to make light, marjorie taylor greene's tweet, harry, but it is, we are at a point where there seems to be an

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Morning Joe

and none of that matters. all of them are just fooling themselves into thinking that one of these candidates might win this nomination. the republican party -- i just spent a month listening to the candace owens podcast, and those are the republican primary voters. they don't care about tim scott or glenn youngkin. those names don't even come up. they want donald trump. this is a maga party. if something happens to donald trump, they will turn to a maga imitator, whether that be vivek ramaswamy, they like rfk jr., that is what the party is right now. and, you know, having these conferences of donors trying to pretend like it's something that it's not is only serving to muddy the waters and make people not recognize the reality of where the gop is and what's happening in this primary. >> so rev, there is, as tim said, this wish casting by

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Morning Joe

changed his stance since running for president. katty, this is implicit criticism in some ways from ron desantis of donald trump, trying to get to the right of him a little bit. he's made similar comments on the issue of abortion, suggesting that his six-week ban in the state of florida is where the party should be, not the way donald trump has approached that issue. >> yeah. he seems to have two messages at the moment. one, i'll get things done, an implicit criticism of trump, but i'll go further than trump and finish the job in a way that donald trump didn't manage to do. the other issue he is running on, of course, is all of the so-called woke stuff. that does seem to be resonating with some section of the republican conservative base. they feel that desantis gets that and cares about that more than donald trump does, according to the reporting that we have. but it's not enough. it's just not getting in the numbers. one of the reasons trump is still doing better than he was even in the spring, according to

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Morning Joe

really about a third that is never going to move away from him. it's not about any of this other stuff. it's about, they don't look and see a champion, someone whether understands their struggles and fights for them. again, you can make fun of that and say they're diluted and wrong, but that is the connection. it is a visceral connection he's built up. that is what the power of a cult of personality is. they identify with trump. the problem for the challengers to trump right now is not that someone is to the right or the left, who has 5%? doesn't matter. someone would go from 2% and take trump down if they had that, right? some way into that, to crack trump's hold on the party in that sense. the party is the trump party, the maga party. it's not a conservative, far-right or populous party or anything else. it's his. you can't crack the connectionv you'll not be able to beat donald trump in the primary. so far, there's not anybody who looks like they have that

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The Katie Phang Show

curbelo, sadly. now in places the maga party, it's by any means necessary, if we break the law, if we have to be hypocritical. as long as we gain power and hold on to power at whatever cost, that's what they and their voters are behind. that's why they will excuse any fault, overlook any hypocrisy. >> quickly, carlos, i got a minute, we have desantis signing a law, letting him run for president of the united states, and still remain in office as the governor. our state, our state of florida, isn't doing so well under his tenure. does that come back to bite him in the butt? >> -- i don't know how many nine times. they keep going back and forth, back when charlie crist was a republican governor, that law was modified so he can potentially run for bryce -- remember that, that seems like 100 years ago. look, i think, it's upends your perspective, economically, florida is doing well. on a lot of these social issues, a lot of people think, and it's pretty clear, when donald trump was a tracking ron desantis on

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The Faulkner Focus

i said he will spend the next 18 months telling voters what he has done for them. >> harris: you don't think that can turn it around? >> i think it will turn around the poll number. not the country, turning around the poll numbers. i would focus on crime is a problem. it was a problem under donald trump and red states and blue states. the president is the one who is putting out a budget that wants to increase cop funding and the one who is wanting to take away guns from criminals. the other party, republican party, is the one who has a budget that defunds police, f.b.i. and border and wants to do nothing about guns. literally nothing. they watch mass shooting and say let's -- >> harris: no one will believe the party of law and order wants to cut off their nose to spite their face. look at what the republican texas governor is having to do because the federal government is not stepping in with anything but some cash at this point at the border. you need people there. >> he has increased the border patrol there. that's what biden did.

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The Faulkner Focus

again. the republican party is the trump party, the maga party. they will go as far right as they can to win in the primary and all that will do is make it harder for them to win a general and reach out to independent voters. i look forward to a bloody primary that has more and more people in it. i would love to see more people get in. it will make the race harder for all of them come the general election. i think at the end donald trump will be the nominee. he controls the party. he is way up in the polls and nothing that happens to him seems to matter. >> harris: your candidate is way down in the polls and you can't ignore that. it is for tangible things like the economy how people look toward the future. north of 70% say they don't think the future looks better than the present right now in terms of the country is going in the wrong direction. but this is interesting because you get another voice in the mix here and i wonder, garrett, if it makes it harder for biden if

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