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Republican figure or any producer at fox news does. and this is why they reacted with such an about face after giving the audience what was initially good journalism. >> right. >> fox was the first to report -- let's not lose that as a fact of what happened here. fox was the first to report, and they were correct in -- you know, a lot of mainstream publications pilloried them and said, they got out way too ahead of the curve here. arizona is too early to call. well, they were right. and then fox backed away from that. once they saw the backlash from their audience, they said, you know what? we...

Voters. they do not fully understand these people. and they feel the need to give them what they think that they want. and occasionally, they have misjudged that. trump has misjudged himself from time to time. but ultimately, he has a much better finger on the pulse of voters than any establishment republican figure or any producer at fox news does. and this is why they reacted with such an about face after giving the audience what was initially good journalism. >> right. >> fox was the first to report that -- let's not lose that as a fact of what happened here. fox was the first to report, an...

Going to be talking about this story today. >> the emails were authentic and yet they lied and lied and lied as you just showed trying to convince people to not even pay attention to them on the grounds they were disinformation from this young reporter at politico who spent months digging into all of these emails. obviously, had he unearthed proved that these emails were forgives and put that in his book he would be a star. because his reporting said the opposite, he found even more proof that all those emails were authentic, which meant that she's media outlets, all of them, pretty much, with...

Would make the argument. if you are a member of congress and you want to get back to actually legislating. the white house has legitimate beefs. there are some places you go where you are clicking around on cable or reading mainstream publications where the antipathy for president trump is so over the top. you can't even get a sentence out of his mouth and he is criticized or, you know, or minimized. but it's also the case that the white house is much better off focusing on substantive arguments when they push back on the press. >> harris: all right. we will move on. americans appear to be spl...