Same time. >> mark rowan, these jewish donors in new york, genuinely, i felt, they were giving money to these universities and the students around the campus saying, round up the jews. as a jew myself, that was rather unsettling as a penn grad. i saw people on campus. a cornell professor going out to say, i felt great joy see what happened on october 7th. i think there is two separate things going on here. i think there is genuine fear and concern amongst the jewish community but what's happening college campuses. that has been weaponized by this other movement. i'm not sure it's a direct line...