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Siddiqui, how does this complicate what law enforcement has to do? >> yeah, that's right. aafia siddiqui was a major terrorism case over a decade ago. someone that was sought out from the u.s. for many years and then captured in afghanistan. there were also ties to pakistan and one of the master minds of the 9/11 attack. with that, this is not just any convicted terrorist that's gone to prison. this is one that actually got into a standoff after being captured with her interrogators, grabbed a rifle, tried to engage them. this was tied to both dirty bombs, biological attacks, threats against m...

Practice. and the master minds behind the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election got their reps in and they are chipping away at the institutions that held to ensure former president trump would take his rightful place as an ex-president and president biden would enter the white house and get his chance to deliver on promises to the voters who elected him. what every president is entitled to. what voters are entitled to. this series isn't alarmist. it is a frank examination of an illness in our country that we can't afford to ignore. what will 20 #it 2 bring and 2024? what if trump ...

Easily manipulated and to be susceptible to some of the things that happened. the big lie has worked because there has been a willing amount of people to be that audience and be those minions. and so going after the people that have carried out directives, that's important because you want to serve as a deterrent to others so they don't commit those same crimes, thinking, you know what, let me consider or reconsider that person who followed orders before, they got in trouble, do i want to be that person? going after the master minds and the puppeteers is equally important because unless you go...

This type of behavior and until we address that, whether it's diversion programs and the job training, whether it's making sure that those who are the real criminal master minds behind the crime rings are put in jail, until we see some consequences, nothing is going to change. right now-- i'm sorry. edward: well, no, no, i'm curious on that point. do you think that now we're going to start to see businesses be more vocal going forward to get some of these changes in place? >> i do. i know i've talked to a number of particularly smaller businesses because you remember, every large national reta...

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