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learned trump's inner circle told him the fraud claims were false. within the committee, a significant public split over whether to send a criminal referral to the doj, and so that's where we want to begin today with democratic congresswoman of virginia who is on the select committee. she's joining us now. thank you so much for taking the time, congresswoman. the chairman says that a criminal referral is not going to happen. i know you and other committee members say that's not been decided. why isn't everyone on the same page? >> well, what i'd say is it's correct that this hasn't b...

zimmerman's wife, shelly, lied at the bond hearing in april about their ability to make bail. here she is that day testifying by phone, first being sworn in, then not telling the truth. >> do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? >> yes, i do. >> are you of any financial means where you could assist in those costs? >> not -- not that i'm aware of. >> because the judge believed the zimmermans to be strapped for cash, zimmerman was granted a low bail, $150,000 of which he only had to pay $15,000 out of pocket. what mrs. zimmerman did not s...

of seminole county. >> he has yet to turn himself in. the judge ruled the way he did after hearing arguments that zimmerman's wife shelly lied at the bond hearing in april about their ability to make bail. here she is testifying by phone, first being sworn in and then not telling the truth. >> do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? >> yes, i do. >> do you have any financial means where you can assist in those costs? >> not that i'm aware of. >> well, because the judge believed the zimmermans to be strapped for cash, he was granted a lo...

here she is testifying by phone, first being sworn in and then not telling the truth. >> do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? >> yes, i do. >> do you have any financial means where you can assist in those costs? >> not that i'm aware of. >> well, because the judge believed the zimmermans to be strapped for cash, he was granted a low bail, $150,000 of which he only had to pay $15,000 out of pocket. what mrs. zimmerman did not say is that the couple had more than $150,000 in donations in a paypal account. >> and the defendant through m...

here she is testifying by phone, first being sworn in and then not telling the truth. >> do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? >> yes, i do. >> do you have any financial means where you can assist in those costs? >> not that i'm aware of. >> well, because the judge believed the zimmermans to be strapped for cash, he was granted a low bail, $150,000 of which he only had to pay $15,000 out of pocket. what mrs. zimmerman did not say is that the couple had more than $150,000 in donations in a paypal account. >> and the defendant through m...