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I think people who own guns are very passionate about gun ownership. people on the side of gun reform need to be very passionate about that reform. there are many more people on the side of reform. they need to be more passionate about it. that s how we make a difference. . some people think about gun control in the united states, there is a pessimistic view. look, matthew, we have seen so many of these mass shootingings, one after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other. and it doesn t seem to sway the debate. so what difference does it make when we see corporations taking a stand like this? well, corporations are acting as leaders, responding to the will of the people. if i had said walmart was going to take this action, people would have thought you were crazy. walmart is the biggest retailer in the world. it s true that business is not made on selling guns. they do sell some. but that is not how they really ....
To them. . walmart is not the first retail chain to ask shoppers to keep their guns under wraps while in the store. target introduced the same policy back in 2014. . let s talk more about this now with matthew litman, the president of a nonprofit advocacy that works to reduce gun violence called 97% gun reform. former speech would i for joe biden. good to have you with us. thank you, george. let s talk about the president s answer to this, or more precisely, his non-answer to the question about walmart s decision on selling guns. it falls along political fault lines. some see it as polarizing. it is an issue where the president walks a fine line. what do you make of his response? . well, let me just say this, george, 97% of the country, 97% of americans favor universal ....
Go forward. i think that will pay for a lot of the things people are concerned about in terms of spending. i m a conservative. i don t generally love spending, but i have never seen a president come in, sit down, and work as hard as it seems like this president is working, and as your other guests said, stick to the promises he made in his election and not shy away for one moment on those. matt, you re looking perplexed. last word to you. when we say relentless, he hasn t put forth any plans on the big issues that he needs to get that s not true. to get congress with him. we re talking about infrastructure n no plan. tax reform, no plan. affordable care act that s not true. he won t do it. part of the reason is because he s dealing with these self-created mini scandals. okay. on that we ll leave it. go to the website, matthew. gina, thank you to you both. thank you so much. we ll take a short break. when we come back the commander ....
White house adviser, and former national security adviser michael flynn also had a brief meeting with him at trump tower in december. and then there s this. mike pence reportedly used a private e-mail account to conduct official business as governor of indiana. joining us now, ted johnson. and gina loudoun in san diego. and matthew litman is here in los angeles. let s start with mike pence and the fact that he routinely used a private e-mail account when he was the governor of indiana. according to the indy star, there are concerns his e-mail account may have been hacked. listen to this. the vice president s office sent us a statement saying that pence didn t break any laws and he s complied with all indiana laws regarding these records, and they ve also said that any ....