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Laura Coates Live

is not lost, are you or any of us, it most certainly is not lost on the government. >> and how do you think they intend to respond? is this bluster his threats of it being immediate? a maximum level and decisive or is there some meat on that bone well, depending on if which we're getting conflicting reports, i mean, some reports that actually playing down the nature and severity and strategic messaging of the israeli strike. >> so we'll see what the response is. the other thing that i find it interesting is if perhaps they did actually strike uranium iranian fighter jets on in an error in an air base, they would be some interesting symmetry, almost be poetic, because the iranians tried with their barrage of missiles and drones to strike an israeli air force base and never team and destroy israeli f35 fighter jets. so it'd be certain amount of symmetry of the israelis then turned around

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HARDtalk

triangle. don't know what the israelis intended with respect to the character of their strike and we don't know, the iranians appear to be sort of ridiculing and trivialising the israeli attack. i think the running and media refer to it, i was told, as a series of drone strikes, so it may well be and it is certainly possible that messaging and signalling could easily escalate between two adversaries that do not trust one another, but i think you really have to be sober and as non— hysterical at this particular moment and i think, frankly, we will find out soon enough, the iranians have threatened to respond immediately and massively, to the israeli strike. will they

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HARDtalk

next 2a hours, whether or not this was signalling and messaging, although in a crisis mode, orwhether or messaging, although in a crisis mode, or whether or not we are on the verge of climbing up the as glittery latter to some of the middle east has never seen before. �* , . , before. it's a very thin line, isn't it? _ before. it's a very thin line, isn't it? we _ before. it's a very thin line, isn't it? we have _ before. it's a very thin line, isn't it? we have had - before. it's a very thin line, isn't it? we have had that l before. it's a very thin line, - isn't it? we have had that word miscalculation being tossed around in reports in the past couple of days from officials in israel, within iran, within the us. talk about that and the risks that there is in terms of when you are signalling through military action how difficult it can be to calibrate a message through a missile? right, of course it is difficult, there is another reality here. we are guessing and worst casing and maybe that's simply natural human tendency, but i mentioned earlier that we are in a sort of information bermuda

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Jesse Watters Primetime

>> charlie painter, thank you very much indeed. joining us now, vice president of research at foundation for defense of democracies and former terrorism analyst at the treasury department. jonathan schanzer. >> great to have you with us again, jonathan, i wonder what you make of this. >> it seems have been a pretty straightforward message from israel to iran is that we can hit and we can hit the nuclear facilities if we choose to at a time of our choosing, but also, as u.s. officials have said to us, it was a very limited strike. it was a limited strike. there is a lot of messaging going on here right now. this was i mean, i think the iranians trying to send a message. maybe they actually tried to do more than that because i think they were trying to destroy things in israel by sending 60,000 tons of weaponry, including possible weapons that could carry a nuclear warhead in the future. the israelis have said and i'm

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Hannity

of the islamic republic is staffed not just with ideologues, but many, many octogenarians like the supreme leader himself. but all of that aside, the messaging is likely to be in these friday prayer sermons, the same defiant tone that you had, the same harping on the themes of the israel-gaza war, the same kind of chest thumping post april 13, april 14, military operation. and given that the iranian media, in the lead up to the friday prayer time, has been trying to spin things as all is normal, all is well, you're likely going to see the islamic public try to, at least in the short term, rhetorically, pocket and move on. but in terms of attacks, well, who knows? >> the irgc may be advocating for behind closed doors because lest we forget, there were also reports that when there was this strike in esfahan that there were explosions in iraq and there were explosions in syria, and that irgc change in doctrine was all about responding threats both inside and outside iranian territory with direct attacks from iran.

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All In With Chris Hayes

unqualified success. so yeah. that is a message. where they hit is a message. deep inside iran. close to a nuclear facility. and we can do this. if we need to. if we need to attack facilities and central teheran, we have the capability of doing it. and not just we have the capabilities. you don't have the capability of stopping it. >> indeed. thank you as always. well, let's bring in our next guest from the center for security policies senior editor for middle eastern affairs. caroline joins me now. thanks for joining me on the program. discussing the messaging sent from both sides. frankly, we have been hearing that red lines have been crossed but israel sent a significant message to iran. and, in many ways iran has now tried to deescalate the situation. >> i think that what you are seeing was a very conflicting

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Trump Trial Today

from iran. the public messaging that we heard from chevron itself was that if israel response that would be a bigger response in retaliation. now, whether or not this is posturing, whether it's messaging is threatening potentially some of this is also for a domestic audience that is certainly a very different public view that we have been hearing from iran. in fact, we also heard just yesterday from revolutionary guard commander, who is in charge of the nuclear assets and in charge of securing the nuclear assets in that in iran saying that if israel does target get any of its iranian nuclear sites, or if it threatens to them pointing out that they could change their nuclear positioning, that their nucleus policy they maintained that this void, that they are having a peaceful nuclear program, which many countries do not take it as that, that is

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All In With Chris Hayes

any strikes that carried out. it might be they keep up that denial. the messaging coming out of iran at the moment, and mid- morning, the mission coming out so far is to be rather dismissive of this attack. that it did no real damage or posed no real threat. and what that is all leading to at the moment is an indication that iran is not inclined to respond. you have to remember a lot is state controlled in iran. and so, these messages don't get delivered willy nilly. they do tend to conform to a line. we haven't heard from the supreme leader yet. the iranian foreign minister,

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Alex Wagner Tonight

in a nuclear research facility as well, if we're pushed to do so. clearly there's messaging there as well. and it's a warning. i'm sure that over the last five days there would have been a lot of debate about whether israel should go further, whether they should attack the nuclear facilities. it was quite interesting yesterday. iran have always said they want nuclear capability for civilian energy purposes, that's it. they've always denied wanting a nuclear weapon. frankly, very few people believe them. but yesterday a senior general did say if israel attacks us we might be forced to change our doctrine, ichlte we might get a nuclear weapon anyways and accelerate the process. that was a clear threat. the use of nuclear language has been threatened by both sides. >> indeed. ali, we'll keep talking with you

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Alex Wagner Tonight

and i've spoken to people in isfahan, colleagues who also say they haven't heard anything. just one thing, though, and now there's that -- >> professor, just to respond what you just said there, that nothing has actually happened, there does seem to be mixed messaging from the iranian side. iranian state media said there were drones, the defense system kicked in and targeted them. others are saying absolutely nothing has gone on, and we've had iranian officials tell reuters news agency they don't plan on responding in any way immediately. is iran sending mixed messages? are they on high alert given the attack on israel last weekend? >> well, two things. i'm sure no iranian official has said anything to reuters. reuters has a history of inaccurate statements when it comes to iranian officials. i know personally because i was

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