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faber was talking about the entitlements in the upcoming farm bill and one of the st statistics he quoted, which was incredibly dismaying was that $142 billion is being earmarked as subsidies and entitlements for already successful farming operations and insurance che companies which could -- don't need the money. but are getting it. i'm wondering if any of the money being proposed for those entities could be allocated back toward school lunch and programs that would help improve nutrition in schools by retrofitting kitchen, training personnel and creating regional distribution syste...

food education and educating people on how to know what to do? >> i think the study i referred to, just released yesterday or the day before, by the economic research service, encouraged people to look at it. because it's very compelling. they look at food costs by calorie, by volume, by portion. and obviously timeliness is another factor in all this, but they -- they point out fruits and vegetables among food groups are the least costly and the economist i know at the briefing i was at, compared the price, the number of calories in a doughnut versus a medium sized banana, and the ba...

accused of doing something we didn't have to do and, thereafter, moving toward a regulatory approach. these were voluntary standard and only regulatory standards needed to have such a report. on the other hand, if we submitted a report, it would be attacked based on the faulty subjections that under lay the -- the reasoning in the report. so we were stuck, and it's -- chairman liebowitz said that -- in a congressional hearing at least for the time being that report was -- that we weren't going to do anything further with the report. >> but competitive foods is yet another issue. >> c...

adults and how could we fix the cost of that. if we actually did a cost benefit analysis, we would be accused of doing something we didn't have to do and, thereafter, moving toward a regulatory approach. these were voluntary standard and only regulatory standards needed to have such a report. on the other hand, if we submitted a report, it would be attacked based on the faulty subjections that under lay the -- the reasoning in the report. so we were stuck, and it's -- chairman liebowitz said that -- in a congressional hearing at least for the time being that report was -- that we wer...