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Course of the program. they need to drop manchin from the democratic caucus. he is hurting biden and the democrats more than he is helping. michael wenning, you just heard charlie dent make the case that manchin is actually helping the democrats, that he didn't go this far, but if joe manchin didn't have -- that if joe biden didn't have joe manchin as a buffer, he would have to create him because it's actually man manchin, by this argued, that reins biden in by the most progressive elements of his party. one more if we have time for it. it's just another case of the democrats eating each other...

On a budget resolution in august in exchange for a vote on the infrastructure bill, september 27th. well, the progressives and speaker pelosi reneged on that agreement, pushed it out to november, then got the moderates to vote on build back better in order to vote on the infrastructure bill. i saw how they behaved, i think they did not operate in good faith towards the moderates and i would be very upset right now. and i just saw -- >> final question, if i may. >> sure. >> charlie, is this all just a negotiation? is this all just shtick and in the end they get together and pass something that'...

Got to mix it up and get out of your bubble, get out of your silo. general, thank you very much for being here, i really appreciate your insight. >> my pleasure, michael, thank you very much. from social media, what do we have? the guardrails held in 2020 but gop controlled legislatures are tearing them down and setting the stage for a successful coup next time. the republic was great while it lasted. deep state grad, i'm not ready to bury the idea of the republic, but i think you're correct in pointing out how close we came in 2020 and those guardrails needing to be reinforced. i've said ov...