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and it was only when you fell out with the military that you decided you wanted no military meddling in politics. again, it's hypocrisy. one of the army spokespeople said, "imran khan is "the biggest hypocrite." so, stephen, i need to correct you again. my party is the only party that was not created by military dictators. people's party — ayub khan, the first dictator, zulfikar ali bhutto was his minister for eight years before he left his government and then created the party. nawaz sharif was manufactured by general zia—ul—haq.
with the military that you decided you wanted no military meddling in politics. again, it's hypocrisy. one of the army spokespeople said, "imran khan is "the biggest hypocrite." so, stephen, i need to correct you again. my party is the only party that was not created by military dictators. people's party — ayub khan, the first dictator, zulfikar ali bhutto was his minister for eight years before he left his government and then created the party. nawaz sharif was manufactured by general zia—ul—haq. he was a businessman. my party started from zero. 22 years, i built my party from scratch. and then, if in 2018, the army backed us, then how come, then despite the establishment openly going against us, trying to dismantle us, how come, after we are out of government, we win 30 out of 37 by—elections? how come that has hap...?
you remained close to the intelligence services and the military in your early years in power. and it was only when you fell out with the military that you decided you wanted no military meddling in politics. again, it's hypocrisy. one of the army spokespeople said, "imran khan is "the biggest hypocrite." so, stephen, i need to correct you again. my party is the only party that was not created by military dictators. people's party — ayub khan, the first dictator, zulfikar ali bhutto was his minister for eight years before he left his government and then created the party. nawaz sharif was manufactured by general zia—ul—haq. he was a businessman. my party started from zero. 22 years, i built my party from scratch. and then, if in 2018, the army backed us, then how
you were close to the military. you remained close to the intelligence services and the military in your early years in power. and it was only when you fell out with the military that you decided you wanted no military meddling in politics. again, it's hypocrisy. one of the army spokespeople said, "imran khan is "the biggest hypocrite." so, stephen, i need to correct you again. my party is the only party that was not created by military dictators. people's party, ayub khan, the first dictator, zulfikar ali bhutto was his minister for eight years before he left his government and then created the party. nawaz sharif was manufactured by general zia—ul—haq. he was a businessman. my party started from zero. 22 years, i built my party from scratch.
you rode that tiger yourself in 2018. you were close to the military. you remained close to the intelligence services and the military in your early years in power. and it was only when you fell out with the military that you decided you wanted no military meddling in politics. again, it's hypocrisy. one of the army spokespeople said, "imran khan is the biggest hypocrite." so, stephen, i need to correct you again. my party is the only party that was not created by military dictators. people's party... ayub khan, the first dictator, zulfikar ali bhutto was his minister for eight years before he left his government and then created the party. nawaz sharif was manufactured by general zia—ul—haq. he was a businessman. my party started from zero.
centuries hold. >> the fact the three of us are standing here talking about a peaceful transfer of power speaks to the institutional integrity of our country. >> we are both trying to come back to normalcy, deal with totally abnormal challenges, and do what we do best, which is try to make a more perfect union. >> what do you see there in that footage from january '21 in the context of today? they are trying, and yet it looks like a point of weakness for us at this moment that it's necessary for them to unite over that low bar of, let's not have coups, violence, or military meddling in the transfer of power? >> no, but i think what's important to remember is that what matters right now, and this is why the january 6th committee, i think, is going to be very important for us, is to bring back that memory of what happened last january 6th, to understand what the story and the substance was all about, and then public sentiment and