Good as the british province. school so they are the ones that are gonna feel. this and they're the ones who are going to be watching very closely putting pressure on putin to act and to withdraw. so that is the critical piece here. the ukrainians, through the defense of the last week and time, every, hour every day they can hold off the russian army is an important one. because it has a will to turn up the pressure on putin. >> yes misha zelinsky, is it the oligarchs. are they the ones that could actually have some influence on him? >> i think that's right, i mean, effectively they are run by...