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Echoes what bart gelman told me in the "crossover" episode, an interview i did with him, why is this happening, "all in," "crossover," a long interview. he said that, journalists are allowed to be biased in terms of certain things. one of them is the foundation for free expression that is essentially liberal democracy. we can do that, view that as part of what we're allowed to advocate for. mona, i wonder where you come down on this. because i'm not sure in some ways -- i feel a little more unsure about what i want from everyone. other than the focus. i mean, i think the focus on understanding...

One we haven't seen in this form since, i don't know, arguably the civil war. to help me answer that, still with me, mehdi hasson, mona cheren, david plouffe. i really don't like -- there's a lot of invocations of the civil war, on the right particularly for a long time, the next civil war, when do we get to use the guns, fantasizing about it that i find really gruesome and nuts. you've got marjorie teller green. a ridiculous figure, but a u.s. congressperson who i think is in some ways the vanguard of what more republican congresspeople will be like saying -- basically saying someone's compla...

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