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There was a time when that would have been treated as a violation, over time it hasnt been treated as a very serious violation. Tal raised the issue about responsible drug use, and when we get into the area of heroin or cocaine or other drugs, are you seeing that there are some probationers that can in fact use these substances in a recreational manner and still be otherwise lawabiding . Well, first ill say as an officer of the court, my job is to, of course, enforce the law, but with that said, i think what probation has realized, and not just San Francisco probation, i think were a very prog...

Enough is enough. Were seeing prison populations beginning to decline but when it comes down to the question, who are the first people we should stop putting behind bars . Who is the people who really dont belong there . Its people whose only offense is possession of a substance to put in their own body, right . Thats the first group that needs to be let out. [applause] marty, let me ask you, youre obviously part of the california district attorneys association, as we were talking before the panel began, you shared with me that your organization has previously supported a measure that mark len...

Intervention to create a strengthbased approach to where were providing rewards, also when someone is doing good and recognizing their progress, not just sanctioning them when in fact they relapse because relapse is a fact, and its part and parcel to addiction recovery. George, let me ask you, marty raisesed the point that the reason that we need felony possibilities with drug possession offenses is that we need an incentive for people to choose treatment when they are charged with a crime. Do you agree with them [ i dont. I understand where marty is coming from. I think we have to make sure w...

We had for everything in 1980. Its not consistent with Global Standards and not consistent with our own history. Its costing a vast amount of money and i think what you see is for some of the d. A. s and others are beginning to say enough is enough. Were seeing prison populations beginning to decline but when it comes down to the question, who are the first people we should stop putting behind bars . Who is the people who really dont belong there . Its people whose only offense is possession of a substance to put in their own body, right . Thats the first group that needs to be let out. [appla...

What were doing is not even consistent with american history. I mean, we had 500,000 people behind bars in 1980 and now we have 2. 3 million, 2. 4 Million People behind bars and almost have 5,000 people behind bars just for a drug violation. There are as many people behind bars for a drug violation than we had for everything in 1980. Its not consistent with Global Standards and not consistent with our own history. Its costing a vast amount of money and i think what you see is for some of the d. A. s and others are beginning to say enough is enough. Were seeing prison populations beginning to d...