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The author of corruption in america and shes also an attorney on the imam newlands lawsuit filed against president donald trump. And mom you want. Corruption as an operating system, what does that mean . What am i talking about . Exactly. Would you mind, so we have a picture, but fundamentally what im talking about here is not corruption as some nasty practices that some members of government indulge in in some countries, a lot of government officials might indulge in. But the way we normally think about it is sort of like i dont know, like a disease, right . That kind of creeps in and infects...

Cable or satellite provider. Up next on after words, new America President and ceo annemarie slaughter in her book the chessboard and the web. Director of policy plan at the state department and formerly dean of the Woodrow Wilson school of public and International Affairs at princeton. Whats important, those are just some of her past assignments, and a very illustrious career. Whats important i think in terms of todays discussion is that you will see in her background and in the book that she is both a practitioner as well as at the arrest, or as a teacher, professor of International Affairs....

I will be monitoring this conversation and you will have a chance to ask questions. First, a senior fellow here at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She is the author of this report, when corruption is an operating system. Shes using honduras as the case study. To add to the conversation, we have the author of corruption in america. She is also an attorney in the loss of filed against president trump. So, corruption as an operating system. What does that mean . Yeah, what am i talking about . Exactly. So, would you mind we have a picture. Fundamentally what i am talking about her...

You say its not quite there yet. People are trying to recruit talent. There is only a select group, hypothetically there is only a select group of people that one can pull from for this talent. Is that hypothesis correct . Or can you find great engineers across the country . Where would you look . Leslie well, thats a good question. I would just look around. Look around the room. Im sure that there are some of them here right now. I think that where i would look is any place that is doing that type of work, right . And its not just confined to m. I. T. , stamford, cal. Its having it in detroit...

Test. Test. Test. Youve said that Silicon Valley is actively hostile to diversity. How has that not affected the way that things work at slack . A sort of blind admissions test you do up front or has it affected . Its the intentionality that people at flak from stewart has. We have conversations at flak ive never had any other place how were doing hiring and who were hiring and we could care less if you went to cal, stanford, san jose state or university of miami. We dont care. We want you to work at these companies and we dont care about that and i think that has been a huge part. What has al...