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Limited access. This is its going to go down as probably one of the worst fires that they have gone to. I know that the Oakland Hills fire, we lost 25 people during that fire. But as a single structure fire, i dont think oakland has had a fatality at this magnitude in a while. Lets go to nbcs Steve Patterson following the developments from our los angeles bureau. I guess lets start from the top here, steve. What do we know as far as what started this fire, and then what are you hearing from investigators . Well, sheinelle, at this point, you said it. Right now the remnants of this fire are still fire too intense for firefighters to fully get a grip on the scene. So first things first. Theyre paring down hot spots, checking trouble spots, trying to get smoldering down so they can do the work to try to make sure that people werent further trapped in that building, a count on the number of victims, combing through the scene, looking for. At this point, the number is 25. Now thats the numb

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