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jake, despite the warnings from the united states and a spike in violence between government forces and russian-backed rebels, there are still hopes for a diplomatic path with secretary of state blinken proposing to his russian counterpart to meet in europe next week nolin order to try an have discussions to discuss avoiding an all-out war. >> matthew chance in kyiv, ukraine, thank you so much. the united states is threatening severe consequences for belarus if an attack on ukraine is launched. fred frederik pleitgen joins us now. you were able to witness drills but obviously we want to underline this point, russia wants the world to see this. >> reporter: yeah. the russians certainly do want the world to see this, but it was still quite important to be there, just for the fact that
of you paired together is because you're on opposite sides of the question. if the u.s., if the u.k., are violating the 1994 budapest memo in which ukraine gave up its nuclear arsonal for among other things, its territorial integrity. you, professor, believe the west is violating that. quickly, explain why. >> yes. well, i do believe this is not a single violation, but a rather comparative negligence. because. i mean, there has been evidence of meddling from the beginning. if we remember back to the taped conversation between nolin and diaz. this was a clear indication that there was interference on who was being sought in the government and who was not to be in government.
to the ears of american officials, if you say guarantee, our nato allies have a u.s. guarantee. if they're invaded, they have an expectation that the 82nd airborne will come to their aid. when we were negotiating the budapest memorandum, we told the ukrainians we have to call it security assurances, not guarantee, but neither the george h.w. bush administration or the clinton administration were prepared to make a military commitment to ukraine's defense. now, what we did say is if there's a russian violation, we will take an interest, we will do things, but we did say american military forces coming to defend ukraine was off the table. i think the administration has done things. we're supplying lots of weapons to the ukraine, economic support. i would just take on, you know, first of all, let me talk about the conversation cited between nolin and our ambassador in kyiv. the russians portrayed that as the united states dictating who