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>> donald trump hit the campaign trail in iowa last night telling rally goers that the department of justice's case against him is quote, all be f. well, you said the real world, but i can. he also said every time he gets subpoenaed, his poll numbers go up. he's not wrong. trump leads the board for the republican nomination by at least 30 points. that's not good for any of the other 11 candidates. particularly florida governor ron desantis whose campaign in second to trump in the polls but is being hit with words like sagging and stalled. and then there's this. in the last four month...

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Hell of passing? >> i don't think it does. and i think term limits generally raise a whole bunch of constitutional questions. i think their bill doesn't end run around the constitutional questions. term limits are super popular. people like the idea. i think, again, a big national conversation about term limits is really useful. and i think thoughtful. >> as we've all been talking about, the recent propublica reporting, that's put a spotlight on justices clarence thomas, samuel alito, and the lavish ifs and vacations. some not reported. the calls for an ethics code for the justices are growing...

Institutionalist and he sees it as his mason to protect the institution of the court as it is. >> i tend not to be cynical, but am i wrong in thinking that we could see or form roaring back if president biden is reelected, if he gets a second term. will this commission report go from being acted upon? do you think? >> it's hard to say. my sense is that and -- i always remember, jonathan, when president obama said, make me. he said, force me to act on. this i think we need to be a massive groundswell, not just a couple of congressman, who are pushing, bills that's really important, but a huge h...

What is it going to take to at least acknowledge the court's legitimacy as it is quickly eroding on part of the chief justice. >> you know, if we had this conversation two weeks, ago before the blockbusters came down last week, i would've said, hey the court is kind of pumping the brakes and maybe these legitimacy issues are the fuse for. that that's not how the term and. it strikes me that the majority, the six just a supermajority doesn't factor in the legitimacy questions at all on these big decisions. so i think it's gonna, take, again a public outcry, and massive massive efforts by congre...