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And someonotetaker -- he is a notetaker. >> the receipts, so to speak. as part of your reporting you have new material as far as what taylor testified regarding quid pro quo. >> reporter: yes. so the democrats are trying to pin down these folks going up to the hill on if there was a quid pro quo based on what they saw. so bill taylor was asked specifically if there was a quid pro quo, because the person who asked the question said, listen, what you are saying here is that the deal was that zelensky would announce these investigations related to biden in 2016 and in return he would be getting a...

Not yet been made by the committees but certainly, jake, many democrats up there on capitol hill will think he would make an ideal first witness as this iengent -- as the inquiry enters the next phase. >> sunlen serfaty, thank you so much. let's chew over this. democrats believe that .is unavailable witness and jackie speier on the house intelligence committee said, quote, he's rock solid. detailed note taker, unimpeachable and 50 years to his country and doesn't get much more top gun than that. but mary katharine, we might think it is unassailable but the white house and the president has b...

Again, this time for an open hearing. he has not gotten a formal request from the committees for this. tomorrow they are going to vote on some of the rules for what this will actually look like, but he's willing to. that is key here, because she the person who told lawmakers he was told by the u.s. ambassador to the eu gordon sondland, that everything with regard to ukraine was dependent on zelensky publicly stating he would investigate 2016 and the bidens. therefore, laying out the most compelling argument that there was a quid pro quo at play. the thing here is that bill taylor is not at all...

Little bit hey wire since then in terms of people who are defending the president. i wanted to ask you, though, we felt watching from outside -- the other side of that closed door -- that taylor must have documentation to bolster these assertions that we read in his opening statement. was he able to provide documentation to the intelligence committee? does the state department have that and you have to fight the state department to get it? were you able to get corroborating information from him? >> yeah, that's a great point. in fact, so, it turns out -- it turns out that he's not just a 50-ye...

Terms of people that are defending the president. i wanted to ask you, though, we felt watching from outside, on the other side of that closed door, that taylor must have documentation to bolster these assertions that we read in his opening statement. was he able to provide documentation to the intelligence committee? does the state department have that and you have to fight the state department to get it? were you able to get corroborating information from him? >> that's a great point. in fact -- so it turns out -- it turns out that he's not just a 50-year veteran of both the military and the...