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>> it actually does sound very elitist. here's what i found, amy. it's not that people are, quote ignorant, people care about what matters to them. and what matters to them is not the intricacies of an educational fight. what matters, can they get a good job that allows them to send their kids to the schools they want to be able to and pay for college. while a lot of us scrap on the small things. early on a lot of people just -- we would grow to the house floor and we would say like it's the end of the world. after about three years of that you're like wait a second. >> it's exhausting. >> and...

It. >> as we talk about the reauthorization of the nsa metadata program, that is a little bit off topic here, but the fact that law enforcement and intelligence need tools to go after the terrorists to protect against the attacks. to me it is not enough to say we we could bring legal cases later. i don't want people killed. >> i saw a video after blue oyster concert i got flagged by social media companies like twitter and facebook. you think they move to rapid speed when someone is threatening to kill americans. >> interesting that is copyright issue. >> exactly. there s coordination with the ...

Private activities. >> yjeffrey what about that? a major administration official lying or telling a whole lot less than the total truth before congress? >> well, that's very troubling, and i am not here to defend james clapper at all. but that is a entirely separate question than whether edward snowden should be prosecuted. you know, there's a lot of loose talk about snowden revealed illegalities, he's a whistle-blower. there's exactly one judge who has found the nsa metadata, its big program unconstitutional. every other judge, every other member of congress, every other member of the adminis...