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he has relationship with some of these world leaders for decades and he never thought that he would hear that and so you hear him say that, you hear him talk about it. another part of it too how unprecedented, how unprecedented that moment was on january 6th when a mob of 2000-person mob went to the capitol because they were lied to about the results of the election. because they wanted to overturn the election. so, just really want to make sure that we get that, that we understand why the reason he was telling that story and look, you know, look, as it relates to the names and what he was trying to, you know, what he was trying to say, many people, elected officials, many people, you know, they tend they can misspeak sometimes, right. and look, let me give you a couple of examples. you know, on sunday, speaker johnson said iran instead of israel. this happens. joe is not here, many times i call joe from u.s.a. today michael, i m sure he does not appreciate that. [l ....
all right, good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. we are watching right now debate wrap up at this hour, as the house gets ready to vote on the crucial debt ceiling deal. that s the speaker of the house speaking right there. earlier today, the republican proposal passed a key procedural vote, but it only passed with the help from democrats. it did not have the votes to pass it on their own, after 29 republicans defected. as of now, the bill is being discussed on the floor. it s expected to pass within the hour, despite that fairly significant republican opposition. this debt ceiling vote has been a crucial task for house republicans. for the moment, they took control in january, the big question was how the maga caucus, the majority of whom, let s remember, voted for trump s coup on january 6th, after the sacking of the capital, how are those folks going to actually govern? empowered with one of the two houses of congress. one half of one third of the federal go ....
it s 4:00. we ve got news we have a behind the scenes legal battle with potentially major consequences for the justice department s investigation into the ex-president s handling of classified documents at mar-a-lago the washington post is reporting this quote, a federal judge has at least partially granted a request from u.s. prosecutors to force an attorney for donald trump to testify before a grand jury about the former president s possession of classified documents after leaving office that s according to two people briefed on the decision. evan corcoran had refused to answer investigators questions about his interactions with trump. prosecutors sought to show the chief u.s. guess strict judge beryla.howell of washington that there were grounds of a crime-fraud exception. they spoke anonymously because this is under seal this breaking news is is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends jackie alamany is here her by-line is on that neil i ....
You would have to ordinarily put trump at the stand to say, he had the system and he was doing something different. otherwise, you can t get that evidence in and i think this makes it very, very difficult for them to do that. really has to give smith a lot of confidence, when he s recommending charges. yeah, also seems like there are two tracks here, right? adjusting the facts around this case, which is the actual classified materials and whether that s a charge about national security information, or using the espionage act, then all the obstruction stuff. the point about, you know, moving the documents around, being aware of it, and possible tampering with or being an forthcoming on the surveillance footage, which is requested afterwards, as they are trying to track down the documents. that seems like that fits more in line with some of the obstruction indications we have seen in the reporting, right? absolutely and it really shows that he understood these documents were important, ....
Investigation into him, the one that was conducted by the muller team i think there were six, there was the obstructive act, there was the next specific crime and we all became terrified to check rosenberg and how to prove obstruction. one thing that was said derisively and dismissively by the justice department at the time, without an underlying crime, the obstruction stuff was just process do you think this justice department sees it that way? not at all. so, i mean, process crimes, first of all, can be incredibly important because the system depends on people coming forth and telling the truth, even after they ve made mistakes. so if you re hiding evidence, you know, the way that it looks like evan corcoran might have been involved in, that s a serious problem in and of itself the second thing, there might have been kind of convoluted arguments about no substantive crime in the russia investigation, i totally ....