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All you might remember he is the lead investigator for the bob mueller obstruction investigation. he told the new york times quote, demanding that evidence be destroyed is the most basic form of obstruction and it is easy for a jury to understand. he also said that what's described in this indictment is actually more quote, straightforwardly criminal, then the obstructive acts detailed in the mueller report. based on what you've seen, do you agree? how does evidence like this play in front of a jury? what would be your threshold to convince a jury that an obstruction request, or destruction of...

Now, it goes to things we've seen about the leading the server, information that's had the cctv covered. so, this isn't just one obstructive act. we now have a very broad, multi faceted obstruction pattern, which frankly, we've seen for a long, long time. that was the entire second volume of the mueller report. now, the second big thing in the superseding indictment is the government added one mishandling counts, and is notably the document allegedly that he showed to people up at bedminster. and while trump, on the audiotape that we saw in the charging document, dr. hey, this is. secrets stil...

View, _ somewhat a nonconventional view, i— somewhat a nonconventional view, i don't necessarily think it view, idon't necessarily think it is— view, i don't necessarily think it is a — view, i don't necessarily think it is a horrible thing not be part— it is a horrible thing not be part of— it is a horrible thing not be part of the reason the special counsel brought the case there was because it was the most likely— was because it was the most likely place where a venue would _ likely place where a venue would be appropriate. if it had been — would be appropriate. if it had been...

Washington. but how does jack smith -- how does this case end up in one jurisdiction or the other if there is a trial? >> so, this is a complicated legal issue. because the law in florida and the law in d.c., those two federal jurisdictions, is different. in florida, you could bring the obstruction case either where the acts of suction or committed, or where the investigation is that is being obstructed, namely an investigation in d.c.. either of those would be fine. but if you were to go to d.c. and bring that obstruction case, the law in d.c. is a bit of an outlier. and there is a 1975 case ...

Brought criminal charges against one person in two different venues. for example, we saw the paul manafort case, a case andrew weissmann would know better than anybody, they charged him both in virginia and washington, d.c. here you could see charges happen in two different venues. a person who is going to play a really key role in the decision of where to bring charges or whose office or reptdative from their office would play a key role would be the solicitor general's office. this is somebody who is an expert in looking at whether or not the justice department could get fouled up on appeal ...