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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110514:06:19:00

to it. one is the security aspect. the other is the ideology that people like bin laden represent, because my fear is that the narrative has a far broader support than those engaged in extremism would suggest. in other words, the numbers who want to kill any number of innocent people are a relatively small number. those that buy into this narrative that there is this numt conflict, that the west is on presidenting islam, i think that goes much deeper. >> robert gates said bin laden's death could be a game changer in afghanistan. obviously britain has fought very hard in afghanistan alongside the u.s. and faced some very tough battles. do you think it's a game changer? >> i think it could be, yes. but i still think there's a huge wider issue to do with this ideology. what bin laden's death does is it shows first of all, if you go and deliberately target and kill large numbers of innocent people

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110514:03:20:00

narrative that there is this numt conflict, that the west is on presidenting islam, i think that goes much deeper. >> robert gates said bin laden's death could be a game changer in afghanistan. obviously britain has fought very hard in afghanistan alongside the u.s. and faced some very tough battles. do you think it's a game changer? >> i think it could be, yes. but i still think there's a huge wider issue to do with this ideology. what bin laden's death does is it shows first of all, if you go and deliberately target and kill large numbers of innocent people by terrorism, that will catch up with you in the end. that is important. i think it's also been important, there's an assertion of american -- power is not the right way to put it, but an assertion of american determination. i think that is an important message. the reason i spend most of my time in the middle east, that counts and it's important for america to always remember that. >> there is this reputation that america doesn't have lasting power, that we pull out.

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