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Hospitals. a kind of medicaid-plus. and the other thing is for a lot of consumers, they don't qualify for a lot of subsidies. and -- >> so they'll be paying a lot of money. >> right. when the regulations and mandates drive up the cost of health insurance and they're not offset by subsidies, this may not be a good deal for a large section of the public. >> is the key thing here to watch in the weeks ahead just how many people enroll in these and who they are, whether the sick or the healthy and young? >> that's right. if you look at employer sponsored health insurance, about 15% of penal offopl...

Is the public opinion on obama care has no way improved. it just continues to get worse. democrats are increasingly worried about this law and what kind of liability it is for them in an election. by the way, a lot of the democrats who voted for this law in the first place, they're not even here. you have a new generation of democrats who don't necessarily have the same loyalty to this law as the older generation. the fear for the president is that his own party, if this got delayed, may lose its nerve and bolt on this and it might never become a reality. >> i think the president wants to get ...

Spending. automatic spending cuts. >> that are built into the law now. >> yes, he's thrilled to have obama care rolling in. this now pretty much takes off the table any new spending programs over the rest of his term. what he loves to do is create new spending programs. i think that's the letch raj for republicans ultimately to make him make an offer to them on resolving these issues. >> okay, kip, let's talk about the republicans. where are they? publicly or a common front? there's no question about that. and they're holding firm. but behind the scenes, there are some disagreements. why don't...