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Moment that people were going, "0h moment that people were going, "oh my gosh," on their phones and computers, talking to themselves about right the way around the world. so in terms of how art touches people and provokes a reaction from people, it's hard to think of a piece of art that's done anything like that in recent years. the only thing i can think of being similar in a different way where the ceramic poppies that we had nearly a decade ago, which really again just touched people, they came from all over the country to see that. it's a piece of art that transcended what you normally thi...

This is, normally what happens, in a lot of states, the governor lieutenant governor runs a ticket, like vice president vice president, wears other states where they're independently elected. what is the relationship here. in what is going on? >> that's exactly. right there is not much of a relationship really. you have the with tenet governor, who is a pretty far-right politician, the governor, brad little, is part of the family dynasty of ranchers here in the state. he's much more moderates, and has been around for a very long time. in the idaho political sphere, whereas jim is, has relative...

He's much more moderate and has been around for a long time in the idaho political sphere. she's relatively new, not too new. this is her first statewide position. i mean when the pandemic was really going last summer, for the first surge, there was a point where they didn't talk for two or three weeks which he told us on one of our talk shows here at boise state public radio. it's been devolving ever since. you had her at businesses where they were allowed to under the reopening plan. she criticized him at most step for any action he's taken. >> she's been to his right, so to speak, on these ...

>> i'm not making a defense for it, and china is the focus, but i think there might be more to this. i'll go to the white house and ask. who knows? i just don't understand how this seems so ham-fisted. maybe it is. maybe it is. it just seems like there's more. >> china is the priority for this administration's foreign policy. my sense is they wanted to announce this new arrangement, and they basically said, the french aren't going to do it and we're just going to do it. >> yeah. >> the priority is to get the u.s., aaustralia, uk on one place. we're paying a price worth paying. i think it was a...

Is really heartening to me. so now i know this whole mission has been worth it also, what about the president's snarky answer to the nbc reporter peter alexander who said what are you going to do to get all the americans out? he said oh, you will be the first to know let you know and then he giggles. just shows how unbelievably callus and stubborn this guy is. and isolated. he is focusing on working the phones on some reconciliation package we don't need. he does not understand this is vietnam to the tenth power and it's on his resume. and the american people know it. how else can you explain ...