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you can t get much detail out of this. and it was approved by a judge. which does tell us something. although not what is under the redaction. so we have this unprecedented clash over federal powers, over the prerogatives of a former president. the suspicion about criminal evidence. all of this is here in the ballpark. and if you ve heard today or tonight, we know everything now and i could tell you, no we don t. we obviously have to be careful about what is redacted. we re learning new things. so i m going to go through the facts with you right now. the road map here that has been released, the affidavit, shows how agent recovered the highly classified documents and then based on that timeline and the information, they saw a grave need to go back into-n to do a search to get the rest of them. they found that the trump had, in the doj view, stolen material that involves secret clandestine human source and intelligence. that is the kind of material that is supposed to st ....
d.c. courthouse where navarro is expected to arrive in about an hour and a half. we ve got a lot to talk about and the best people to talk about it. new york times chief white house correspondent peter baker. nbc s pete williams. nbc s sahil kapur on capitol hill. ari melber, msnbc chief legal correspondent and host of the beat. let me start with you, ari, because i saw peter navarro on your program last night. he did not appear, to me, to be a man who thought he might be in federal custody less than 24 hours later. that s exactly right. he didn t sound like that. he didn t talk like that. he said he was in some sort of discussions with doj. this began with his public statements about what he called a green bay sweep or an effort to overturn the election, something he thought was legal, he talked about, and defied the congressional request and subpoena to testify about it. he did tell me about it here on msnbc. i said to him last night, if you re going to describe ....
Thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these extraordinary times. we are grateful. the beat with ari melber starts right now. happy friday. happy friday. and this is a friday with breaking news. today a judge released the road map to that unprecedented search of donald trump s mar-a-lago home. meaning the world now knows more now, tonight about this search than yesterday or ever before. and to be clear with you, we are also learning some things about what prosecutors don t want anyone to know about the open criminal probe. so we have this information, which we didn t have until today and that is legally interesting. we ll go through it. we also have this not information. a large swath of redactions, i could even put them like, redact my face. ....
That may explain why it s taken 171 days for the justice department to decide, 171 days and counting. one other point here i know that ari knows this. it s well to remind everybody. this is criminal contempt. so, even if the justice department prevails here and peter navarro s convicted, that still doesn t mean he has to turn anything over to committee. it merely is a punishment. it s unlike civil contempt where if you agree you turn the stuff over and the case goes away. this doesn t force him to turn anything over. it s just punishing him for refusing to do so. but is there a way, then, ari, to make that happen? obviously that s the key here, right? the key is you want that stuff. well, exactly. you want the stuff and potentially you want the testimony. and to remind viewers, mr. navarro is facing both his grand jury subpoena for records, which is that open criminal probe by doj into things related to the insurrection, and what he s indicted for today, which is the committee s ....
And announce it the day his longest serving adviser is indicted. but as you know, i guess that s the way we live now. and it has, of course, also become something of a clish they shay to say oh, but trump gets away with things and he s not held accountable for his lies. look at the facts. six former aides invited. an open criminal probe. his team is not getting away with everything. roasted and toasted for broken promises by conservatives, which shows that the falsehoods did hurt him in the shutdown fight. so you know trump s lawyers? they always say they don t want him to talk or to testify because mueller would spring a perjury trap. but trump is in trouble because of lies he told all by himself. he is living in a perjury trap house he built himself. and maybe that s very 2019 as well, from a wall to a cave to a trap house. legally, it s too early to know ....