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just say, your point is that there's no ambiguity with having a list and not having president in it with having a history that suggests they were really focussed on local concerns in the south, with this conversation where the legislators actually discussed what looked like an ambiguity, you are saying there's no ambiguity in section 3? >> let me take the point specifically about electors and senators, if i might. >> yes. >> that might be important. presidential electors were not covered, because they don't hold an office. they vote. >> i'm talking about the barred office part of thi...

rnc meeting which shows the maga elitism problem the party faces. this is behind the closed doors. the r fl -- rnc meeting has a behind the doors closed meeting. this is a departure from the past. you can see how it used to look in the old days. take haley barbour, '94 rnc chair or michael steele who so many people know from the similar meeting they held when he was chair to the closed press secret meetings. this is a file photo that shows the contrast over the years, the tightening secrecy. why is it a secret? the rnc is clearly trying to duck any further pressure, scrutiny or effic...

public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you today from london. on the program, ukraine's counter offensive has officially begun. what do the early signs reveal and what exactly is at stake in? i'll ask an all of had star panel. also, the electric vehicle revolution. europe and china are far ahead of america. can the u.s. catch up? i'll talk to bill ford the executive chair of the ford motor company. ♪ >> finally, the supreme court. it's supposed to be the final check, the ultimate safeguard to preserve america'...

arguments in about 80 of those casings touching on every aspect of american life, big or small. and at this very moment, they are waiting to hear if they will pick up one of those big cases, the kind of case that winds up in the had history books. the outcome could determine who is on the ballot for milons of voters as they head to the polls this year. we are talking about a challenge to donald trump's spot on the ballot based on the 14th amendment, which bars insurrectionists from running for office. as we reported on this program yesterday, the ex-president is now asked the supreme...

it cannot be more perfect. also, call about a secretary of state, jena griswold is going to join us. colorado is headed apparently to the supreme court without trump. >> the only thing all those people have in common is that they would like to supreme court to actually weigh in on this thing and get it moving. i am excited to hear the conversation. >> it's going to be the year at the supreme court. thanks, ali. tonight, 77-year-old donald trump is asking a court where he appointed three of the nine judges to save his presidential campaign. donald trump's lawyers have filed an appea...