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It's going to lead to some immediate evidence or disclosure of criminal charges. what's really significant is this is a gradual whittling away at this kind of no-fly zone that's developed around the presidency. congress can strengthen its oversight ability if the courts are saying yeah, this is legitimate oversight. and it actually offers the supreme court a chance to rebalance things here. if they stay out of this, which they should, let congress do its job, it will chip away at this over amount of influence that the supreme court has developed where everything goes to them. and even though t...

Some of them according to this letter. i do want to know if you understand the concern from some of your republican colleagues like for example your colleague on the intel committee, congressman mike turner of ohio that this is unprecedented in so many ways. right? because you're dealing with the former president. you're dealing with this search and his argument that it requires more oversight and transparency particularly to congress, right? you have this unique position on oversight and intel. listen to what he said. >> we don't know if they rise to the level of being a national security thr...

Along with the fact there's an old olc memo that addresses the fact executive privilege could extend to people outside the white house, in a situation like this where the president has already made a decision the privilege should be waived, we know the privilege isn't absolute and must fail in a great public need for information. so that calculus about evidence seems like something doj could answer in the affirmative. then they have to make sure that the prosecution would be in national interest seem like an easy question here where the oversight ability of a branch of government is at stake. ...

Subpoena against bannon, congress might as well pack up and quit having any pretensive of oversight ability. but what we have to be aware of is the risk that bannon will wrap himself in that mantle of witch hunt and being politically persecuted and that they will try to use this to whip trump's base back into a fever. everyone needs to be prepared for that scenario. >> i guess if he was really down for going to jail, he would have begged for a pardon. betsy, the committee's naming names. not just steve bannon. he met with -- suggests that bannon was among several prominent support of efforts t...

Want and the rules committee and elsewhere. that would be a muddied decision and one that wouldn't advance them all, right? >> well, there's no doubt that a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor, especially that's where my experience is, you know, in a limited subpoena could obtain tax records. that's a very common procedure, but they would have to obviously make the showing and have, you know, meet the legal standards of congress's subpoenas and the attorney generals of new york if those are different standards, sort of like you said to put all of those cases together, it's going to be difficult t...