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Personal bias. I was disappointed no doubt about it. However, he relied on the law. And the inputs which are the charges and the indictment which he could not control, dictated his output. I think that it was an inappropriate charge from the start there were many other officers there and there could have been charges that would have implicated the other officers who did set this chain of events which caused death, into motion. Which is exactly how and why mr. Brelo was acquitted. So joey one thing that the judge pointed out, is that causation was a real problem in this case. And it appears tha...

These lofty principles of setting innocent people free after they're wrongfully quicked and prosecuted -- [ crying ] >> sorry about that. we were still hearing from the attorney patrick deangelo the representative of michael brelo. and called this a ruthless act, the pursuit of this one officer for all that took place on that november 29th back with me now, walter madison and joey jackson and avery friedman both avery and walter you're familiar with cleveland this is your home town. and let me just go to you first, walter. you said this in your view is classic victim-blaming hearing from the a...

Officers? >> well actually unbeknownst to most there are pending criminal cases against a handful of the officers involved. those cases are of a minor nature. but the case isn't over in terms of civil claims. i heard patrick deangelo talk about civil rights lawyers. well patrick and i actually co-counselled in a case against the klu klux klan. so in a sense patrick was a civil rights lawyer in that case and he he was a civil rights lawyer in a sense for michael brelo. his job was to assert constitutional protections and frankly, judge o'donnell bought it. so at the end of the day i'm not sure ...