Government's involvement in gain of function research, whether that was its funding of it, or that it performed itself. >> walter? >> let me ask you, there's a character in your piece, peter dasak, he's the one, an american zoologist, and he's funded by the american institutes of health, right? and he's funded to do gain of function research, right? and he's working for the wuhan -- working with the wuhan institute and even some of grant money gets transferred there. is that sort of the issue at stake that we were funding gain of function research and we knew that it was being done in wuhan? >...