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it is very interesting like dick cheney is saying unapologetically. because he kept the truth, apparently, from his own president regarding senior officials who were about to resign over this secret domestic service program. why is that? because it was illegal. i will simply tell you that an aspect of that program, i believe it has gone through some name changes. included surveilling reporters and journalists. if you wire the electronic system, it makes it difficult unless you engage in other means to get information to a reporter or a journalist. obviously, if you are concerned abou...

[inaudible conversations] >> let me first begin by extending a special welcome to the new ranking member of the subcommittee, longtime friend senator mccain. it's not the first time we have worked side-by-side and been a longtime member and formerly ranking member and was the ranking member on the senate armed services committee and has brought a great energy and a bipartisan spirit to our work together and we want to just welcome him as her new ranking member here. we welcome senator johnson i think is a new member here also of her subcommittee like senator mccain has been a member ...