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Those voters now, according to pew polling, among black voters. in april of 2021, he had 89% approval. right now, it's dropped to 60%. do you think this could move the needle back up? >> well, certainly among black leadership who has really been pushing for this and pushed for this when he was a candidate. i think 60% is not bad. and i think it will certainly -- african american voters looking at the first black woman on the court is an important historic moment. but i think voters -- black voters like everyone else want but i think black voters want to feel good about the economy and what the...

Multi-faceted. comprehensive approach to hearing that. >> harris: leslie a democrat saying that. i see why you and david are friends. you go deep. >> i didn't know we were friends. >> harris: you guys are always. it can get chippy but i see how you treat each other. nice to know that you can disagree. you didn't then. we'll move to this. we understand quickly that the first question for the vice president on the view was about the pandemic and now we understand perhaps it will move on to the border. and so we'll keep an eye on that situation but i do want to just quickly get to this. the presi...

>> it's higher than jimmy carter and bill clinton's in the second ought of their terms at this point president obama in 2010 was at 47%. president trump is 42%. doesn't leave us that far apart. >> it doesn't. trump started off so low and the rest of these guys started off high and began to fall but with the exception of carter who saw a bounce coming out of camp david in '78, the presidents saw their party losses. >> so what are you thinking? >> the president has a core base and he's trying to keep that level at 42% but the problem is that there's still a majority of people against him and the...

This is a very personal judgment about the president. you do have the situation and we saw in pew polling just yesterday, even though americans say the job market is better where they are, as many as in 2016, say that their own income is not keeping up with their cost of living. i think that is not the core problem he faces because as you saw in the exit polls yesterday, he is still strong approval among the blue collar whites where he is being hurt is and where republicans are absolutely annihilated in virginia and for that matter did very poorly in new jersey and washington state is on those...

Government goes out and borrows money and runs up the public debt. that's where the similarities to your household budget end. unlike our household budgets, which need to be balanced or else we run into trouble, the u.s. doesn't need to balance its budget. the government ran a surplus 20 years ago but almost budget before and since assumes correctly that the government will spend more than it takes in. the last time congress even passed a balanced budget was in the early 1960s. all told, the u.s. has racked up around $20 trillion in debt because of these budget deficits. the interest payments ...