we re going to do the right thing. that s just the way it is. it is going to be based on fact and law and patriotism. not partisanship or anything else. democrats are still mapping out the next steps. the house can considering whether to bundle contempt votes into a single package to send to courts. there s some agreement within the gop. several republicans have denounced the subpoena to donald trump over his previous testimony on the trump tower moscow project and the 2016 trump tower meeting. nbc confirms with two sources it was served in mid-april meaning these questions from the gop controlled committee over dron junior s testimony came days before mitch mcconnell publicly declared the case closed. the president seemed to be grappling with position. today reversing his position from sunday which was a reversal from his position last week. i was very surprised. i saw richard burr saying no collusion two or three weeks ago. he went outside and somebody asked him. we found no collusion. mr. barr told lawmakers he didn t have a problem with him testifying. i m going to leave that up to the attorney general. to me it looks like a redo. aside from the politics, this moment marks a critical time in u.s. history that could redefine the power of the legislative branch and its oversight of the executive. let s go straight to capitol hill. kelly o donnell is standing by. what do we make of where this process is. there s a few instances where congress asked for things they have not received. the president got involved and issued his authority over that. where do we stand? reporter: speaking with nancy pelosi, i and other reporters asked about some of these issues about what s next. she indicated an urgency to the extent they want to move forward with these various investigative outcomes. things like the contempt citation from the house judiciary committee but they want go only as quickly as the facts allow. she did indicate that there might be a reason to try to use the word bundle, put together different instances if different companies with different jurisdiction also reach out on issu issues for a vote. all of that still to be determined. she has to weigh when something like this comes to the floor. the here is a part of what she told us. i m not saying you. impeach or nothing. it s not that. it s a path that is producing results and gathering information. some of that information is that this administration wants to have a constitutional crisis because they do not respect the oath of office that they take to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. reporter: that was in response to my question where i was asking how does she weigh the competing interest when she has democratic members who enthu enthusiastically want to move forward with impeachment. she explained how she is trying to weigh all the different considerations. viewing this in a much bigger fleeting politics of the day as a constitutional issue. an issue of patriotism. also spoke to kevin mccarthy, the top republican in the house today about the issue of donald trump junior and a subpoena. the transcript of the testimony when he did appear on capitol hill. we thank that s part of why the subpoena was brought about. whether it s lying to to committee or just some confusion we want to clear up. we don t know the express reasons why they have subpoenaed trump junior but kevin mccarthy is in camp of case closed. donald trump junior has already testified for hours, more than 20 hours. i believe it s time to move on. i think the committee ought to relook at it. everything is out there already. he s spent more than 20 hours in the committee. it s time for this country to move forward. i think they should re-address this. reporter: a top republican in the house is telling the senate republican in charge of that committee to take another look. we don t often see that break between republicans here. thank you for playing that. the senate intel has been taking this quite seriously more so than the house did. joining me is barbara mcquaid. he s an attorney for the eastern district of michigan and the professor at the university of michigan law school. what do you make of what s going on here. there seems to be a similarity between congress s request of donald trump s taxes, congress s request of the testimony of the mueller report, of the testimony of don mcgahn. this seems to be a congress versus the administration matter that is heading for the courts. yeah, i think president trump has told us himself what this is when he said we re fighting all the the subpoenas. certainly, the white house and the president has the ability to respond as it sees fit, to exert executive privilege when it s appropriate. what seems to be happening is a blanket assertion of fighting all requests for information. that i submit is a violation of it ts dus duty to take care tha law is faithfully executed. we talked about the difference between the executive and legislative branch in past. think about u.s. versus nixon. there was a supreme court ruling on that that was pretty clear. why is that not immediately applicable here? i think it may be. in william barr defense the letter he sent yesterday is being over stated a little bit. what he is doing is asking the president to invoke protective privilege. i think they realize some parts of the material underlying the report will have to be produced. certainly that has been produced to the public has been waived. it encompasses other material. in the end, there are certainly materials that may be protected by the executive privilege but even that s only a qualified privilege. stated in the supreme court in the united states versus nixon. the privilege has to yield under certain circumstances a and in light of a criminal investigation. the privilege had to yield. here what ordinarily happens is the party s work together to reach some sort of accommodation to share information. i think the trump administration has made it clear there will not be accommodation. they will fight and go to court. it may be even though they lose, the ultimate goal is to drag it out to run out the clock until past the 2020 election. i thought you said what ordinarily happens. that could be the beginning of every sentence we use to describe what s going on in the last two years. thank you so much. the president is dealing with two major issues overseas. first is iran where tensions are spiking. the first anniversary of president trump s decision to withdraw the united states from the iran nuclear deal. iran s president has announced partial pull back from that agreement. the trump administration imposed sanctions on iran steel, aluminum, copper and iron sectors about the impact of those sanctions earlier today. their economy is a mess ever since i took away the iran deal. they have inflation that s the highest number i ever heard. they re having riots every weekend and during the week even. what they should be doing is calling me up, sitting down, we can make a deal, a fair deal. we don t want them to have nuclear weapons. not too much to ask. we would help put them back into great shape. they are in great shape now. i look forward to the day where we can help iran. we re not looking to hurt iran. i want them to be strong and great and have a great economy. then there s the issue of north korea. the justice department asked to give the united states ownership of a north korean freighter caught shipping coal in violation of u.n. sanctions. this comes as japan fired two missiles toward the sea of japan. a sign that nuclear talks with the united states could be in danger. senior state department official said pike mike pompeo returned from his trip early. they have told the freighter it is not in any way related to what has been in terms of north korea firing rockets. joining us to talk about the correspondent what s the latest development on this? we know a little bit about the intelligence that came in and caused the decision by the u.s. military last weekt. it was intelligence that had been in a direction around the region and gloves could come off. they could go after some of the american military and some of the u.s. interests that are in the region. something that we haven t seen happen in some time. that was one of the threat sthe streams that occur. they have been seeing the iranians on the small boats moving ballistic missiles through the area with the potential to not only deliver them to a location but to potentially fire them off of dowels. there s concern about some of these militia groups inside iraq. they have been activated. there s more than 5,000 u.s. troops in iraq still. these are some of the threats that the u.s. military is looking at right now and why they decided to send the carrier strike group and the bomber task force. thank you. this is in seoul for us. we know two short range missiles were fired. it was there that north korea reached a milestone where they fired their first solid fuel ballistic missile. solid fuel is important because it makes the missile easier to transport and launch without being detected. what we are seeing is an escalati escalation. not only in testing but in tension and not only is kim jong-un pushing the limits of his own self-imposed moratorium on testing long range ballistic missiles but he is running the risk of breaching united nations resolutions, and he s doing so with tech nomg technologies and weapons that show improved capability. south korea s president saying if north korea continues in this pattern, it s going to jeopardize any chance for dialogue and negotiations. it s also troubling because the lines of communication with pyongyang have been all but silent since the collapse of the summit. we see this pattern developing where kim jong-un is testing, trying to gain leverage in any goe negotiations with the united states and the question is how further is he willing to push it. what s also curious is the re reaction it s a far cry from the fire and fury we heard about 18 months ago with today president trump suggesting that nobody s happy about it. what it implies and what secretary pompeo is saying there seems to be almost a acceptance by the united states that north korea can do testing of shorter range missiles. just nothing that will threaten the united states. at this point it appears the administration is more concerned with preserving the appearance of a north korea policy that s working. thank you. next, more and more americans struggle with prescription drug prices, there s a bipartisan effort in congress to lower those costs. we ll explain in detail why these prices are out of control in first place. one of the lawmakers leading the fight joins me after the break. congress might be one step closer to obtaining president trump s tax records. that is thanked to a bill passed in the new york state senate. i ll be joined by the sponsor of that bill later in the hour. you re watching msnbc. msnbc. did you know comcast business goes beyond fast with a gig-speed network. complete internet reliability. advanced voice solutions. wifi to keep everyone connected. video monitoring. that s huge. did you guys know we did all this stuff? 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well, again, the solution is transparency. having drug companies compete against each other. 90% of the drugs out there are generic. not all generics have multiple manufacturers. we need more competition within the market. the more transparent this system is. members of congress don t understand it. on the panel today, our members consistently said, i don t even understand this. it s so obscure. it has evolved in this opaque complicated multi-layered system in which you can t even in a congressional hearing get a straight handle on who can bring the cost of these drugs in line with something that makes sense. it s a combination of affordability for drugs where drug companies can make lots of money and they argue, i m not sure how much i buy this argument that we are subsidizing the cost of everybody else s drugs all over the world. how do you base your price? tell us how you come up with your price. we got all kinds of answers about value added to services and about the effects of the drug and how much they were helping people. the point that remains here, particularly with the pbms. what we re seeing is vertical integration where you have the insurance company that adds onto pharmacy. now all of a sudden with that vertical integration, the pbm that s using your own farm phar is taking the rebates and puts them back to the something they own. they are taking it out of one pocket and putting it in the other pocket. sglo go good to see you. thank you for joining me. coming up, new york lawmakers pass a bill that would allow president trump s state tax return to be handed over to congress paving the way for house democrats to access the president s very closely guarded financial records be p t. the sponsor of the bill joins me after the break. after the break. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you ve got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won t go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands? 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i hope so. every democrat voted for it. we have express support from the governor. we have importantly and significantly saying this bill applies to every one. it s not just for one individual. the other thing to point out is this is something that s already routinely done. the state of new york routinely provides tax returns of state citizens to both the federal and other states. we re providing another avenue. under the law that you have proposed and passed through the senate, is the requirement for there to be a legitimate legislative purpose addressed? yes, there is. there s in our proposed law as well as information that might be redacted in it violates privacy concerns at the federal level. not only does congress have this right to request information of citizens through the irs but they have routinely requested that information of state. we re not doing anything extraordinary here. we re just creating a new avenue with which to do it. what s the concern on the other side that you could end up having committee chairs who are politically vindictive asking for the tax return of journalists critical of politicians? congress can already ask for those tax returns at the federal level. we are just simply allowing the state of new york to cooperate with one of those three congressional committees at the state level. what do you think the state of new york gets out of this? with the recording that we have seen from the new york times, this one and the last very significant batch of returns, they sort of indicate that in donald trump s business history in new york, there may have been things on those tax returns, some may have been legal, some may have been deliberately misleading and some cost to the state of new york. that is really good question. i ll leave it up to congress to do their investigations. i think we can t be bystanders to our democracy even though we re state legislatures. we have that unique responsibility to assist other legislat legislatures. we understand the importance of executive oversight. that s one of our jobs. we want to assist congress in that very solemn responsibility. good to see you. thank you. onto the 2020 race for the white house. senator bernie sanders and new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez are introducing a new bill to help americans deal with increasing amounts of credit card debt. according to the federal reserve, as of march, americans held more than $1 trillion in credit card debt. the average interest rate on that debt is 17.73%. that average can be misleading because some people have low rates and some people are paying rates around 20%. the bill looks to cap credit card interest rates at 15%. they re taking on payday lenders who are charge between 300 and 900% interest rates on loans. the bill caps those at 15% just like credit cards. earlier senator bernie sanders sat down with my colleague and i asked him why he decided that the 15% cap is the way to go. what we should understand and what makes what banks are doing today so outrageous is they are boar borrowing money at 2.5% and half of the people paying interest rates are paying more than 21%. your point is if interest rates go up, might the maximum go up, that s also included in the legislation. people get further and further in debt while wages remain stagnant. this really is disgusting. we have to stand up to the greed of wall street and change it. the plan allows low income communities to do much of their banking at the post office. it s something might seem a little unusual but from the early 1900s till the 1960s, the post office did just that. throughout europe you ll be familiar that the post office offers banking services. senator sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez argue this occupation would allow low income americans access to systems and prevent frem becoming prey to payday lenders. john kelly is characterizing and defending the family separations at the mexico border as purely for humanitarian purposes. who he blames for this after the break. you re watching msnbc. r this afe break. you re watching msnbc. i can t tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture now might not be the best time to ask yourself are my bones strong? 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ask your doctor if it s time for xarelto®. to learn more about cost and how janssen can help, visit xarelto.com breaking hate tackles various groups in america. it documents the journey of a reformed white nationalist who is trying to atone from his past by helping others escape the life he once livered. you reached out to me. tell me what s going on. what s happening? how does one become a leader of a cell? a leader means you re the first one in a specific area. you don t tell people to do any particular one thing or another. it s a collection. if you were to ask how big of an organization is this. i don t think they have more than to 50 people. but 40 to 50, you know, terrorists can cause a lot of damage. sure. the man you just heard talking joins me now. he s the author of the book white american youth, my decent into america s most violent hate movement and how i got out. christian, thank you for joining us. thanks. people ask me how in 2019 with the information we have out there, in the society in which we live do people get involved with these groups? unfortunately with as much as information out there, there s as much misinformation and disinformation out there, propaganda materials floating around all over the internet making it a 24-hour hate buffet for any marginalized person looking for an answer to stubble upon. there s something i want to play in the documentary called cult hopping. i ve been working with extremist for nearly 20 years. in that time i notice a pattern called cult hopping. it s when people are so desperate to find an identity or purpose they jump from one extreme group to the other. ideology isn t as important as the need to belong. in andrew s sophomore year of high school he decided to run home and join the battalion in the ukraine. walt is up there talking to him, he comes down from the bedroom, he s crying. i said, what is going on? he said you re not going to believe this. he bought a one way ticket, he had a fake passport, he bought it from ireland, $500 it cost him, because he thought his american one would fail. he arranged for a limousine to pick him up. he had $250 in cash plate carriers. sleeping bags. everything ready to go. it was so sad. i know what a go bag looks like. christian, that interesting. the line you used, ideology is not as important as wanting to belong. which is a badge of identity politics. we have seen that in the united states work for people, groups that are otherwise marginalized. does it apply the same way to hate groups? people who want to belong and advance something they believe in? i think we make every decision in life based on a search for identity and purpose. hate groups or extremist groups or extremist behaviors like drug addiction or runaways or suicide, i think it s about a lack of belonging, a lack of agency and a lack of family, so to speak. but what leads people there that doesn t lead other people there, are what i call potholes those things that occur in our life journey, it can be abuse, poverty, or privilege or mental illness, there could be a million of those things sending them to the fringes where there are people waiting and looking for people looking for identity who hasn t found it. how do people like me deal with it? how do you deal with empathizing with people who have developed a life around intolerance? well, you know, it s a difficult thing to do, but i say we have to see the child not the monster. whether the child is 16 years old or 60. it stems from the potholes that we ve encountered throughout our lives. we re not born to hate. ideology isn t even what s leading people to the movement. i think it s the broken search for identity. and america is the same as well, and we have our fair share of identities going unfilled. thank you were joining me, the author of white american youth my dissent into america s most violent hate movement and how i got out. to see more tune in to breaking hate sunday right here on msnbc. we ll be right back after this break. back after this break. we re four days into a volatile week for the markets triggered by president trump s constant changing opinions about what s going on with china in the trade negotiations that resume in an hour. cnbc reporting that the banks are predicting losses in the future and preparing clients for the worst case scenario. the dow is down about .6%. right now. the week is about 1.75%. for the s&p it s about 1.5. it s a lot for the week. but for the year on the dow you re up about 10.5%. and the s&p 500 about 14.5%. in both cases those are remarkable returns, which is why i m not too worried about this at the moment but i think we ll know more in the next 24 hours once we get a better read on what s happening with the negotiations with china. it s impossible to know because we don t have information inside how those negotiations are going. we are responding to the president s tweet and truthfully on a given day the deal is on or it s off. we know that negotiations are beginning again in an hour, resuming again in an hour, that s the plan, and they ll go through tomorrow. within 24 hours we should be able to give you some sort of read on what s happening with the china trade talks. that s all for me. you can always find me on social media. thank you for watching. deadline: white house with nicole wallace starts right now. hi, everyone. it s 4:00 in washington d.c. where today, donald trump ext d extended the total and complete exoneration myth to cover his son who s been subpoenaed by the committee investigating the trump campaign s contact with russia. contacts that robert mueller found numbered into 140. the republican led senate intelligence committee has subpoenaed donald trump jr. to answer questions about his previous testimony before senate investigators in relation to the russia investigation. the new york times adding, quote, the committee is particularly interested in as well as his role in his father s effort to build a sky scraper in moscow and comparing the testimony to his previous answers to senate investigators in 2017.