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Things that they were doing when they were scheming not only to use the fake electors but also that episode where they attempted to weaponize the department of justice when jeffrey clark proposed sending out the letter to the states. he had marked up one for georgia as a prototype suggesting to them that they reconvene to select alternate electors because of fraud. it is, number one, it was false, number two, he knew it was false and, number three, it is so contrary to the way the justice department acts in terms of deference to the state federal divide in the law as well as different branches...

This if, and it's a big one here because he's represented by lawyers representing other people in trump's inner circle, but if he will tell the truth, prosecutors can learn a lot of interesting information. >> michael steele, you know, the more people who end up getting caught in this web, the more i think to myself, if i'm a self-serving elected official, if i am a republican, i am at least coming up with a plan b. right? plan a is stay loyal to trump. attach yourself to him like a barnacle. if he goes down, maybe you jump off at the last minute. smart people have a plan b. you don't stay in ...

These folks room not to necessarily have to go to a plan b because plan a is working out so swimmingly. >> brian, so this is the thing that always gets me about this. we have these highfalutin conversations. we talk about indictments and jack smith and everything like that. i'm a college professor at morgan state university. when i talk to 18, 19-year-olds who live their entire lives on instagram and tiktok, only some of this trickles down. i'm fairly comfort if i talk to zoomers and young millennials, they don't even know who jack smith is. how much of this trickles down? how much of these so...

I'm against the routinized indifferencens, the vulnerable,o no matter what color they are, no matter what gender, no matter what matteco intention. >> dr. west, i know you you support drawing this ukraine conflict to a close. and just tonight , the washington is reporting that the biden administration is giving backinthg to a plan a at would remove barriers plto ukraine's entry into naito without setting a timeline for its admission. dem the democrat party is obviously all in, as are many republicanse are not not donald trump. i don'sidet ron desantis but pry much all the other republicans ar ...

The answer is yes and yes. >> i think we should do it rachel maddow style. this are some things reported. i don't want anybody looking. i don't want anybody looking through my boxes. what happens if we don't respond or don't play ball? wouldn't it be better if we told them we don't have anything? well, there would be better if there were no documents. >> plan a is let's just lie. plan b is what we record about hillary clinton is can't you just get rid of these? this is a testament to in many ways corcoran being above board and not willing to go along. this is what causes him to have to move th...