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Was needed to get us, to get america essentially to this place, where you had people essentially being killed, and dying, and trying to essentially overthrow the government. that is remarkable. so, that is what i thought the night before, but i wasn't sure. mike and i made a plan to work out what we should do come in the event that people start marching to the capitol. the idea was that michael would take jesse's camera and i would move the equipment because we were filming the rally itself, on the day. and i would move the agreement to my car then try to move my car as close as i could to the...

The plan didn't really work so well because by the time i got the car where i needed to, michael was in the midst of all the events that took place. and the footage that he captured is extraordinary. it is footage that no one has seen before. it is footage of people saying the most horrendous things about the then president-elect, now president biden, the most horrendous things about mike pence, conspiracy theories and essentially absolutely believing that the reason they were there was because their election was stolen. >> were you afraid? >> um, so i was afraid for michael because michael wa...

Of a spaghetti and dumping it in every bowl they could find and trying to figure out is this secret that might get them some headway? was this the predicate for what pence was doing? look, i have little confidence that donald trump understood the nuances of the processes at stake. i think he was like pence, you got to do this thing. pence decided not to do it to his credit. i don't even think congress really went along with it. yes, there were objecting votes but the plan didn't come to much fruition but this was a point of pressure with whom i spoke were worried about. >> one reason why i sai...

Alternate slates of electors submitted to congress and that they could potentially be claimed as -- this isn't john eastman in cahoots with donald trump but studies this stuff and said this is a vulnerability so i think what they were trying to do was simply, you know, they were -- it was like they had just gotten fresh spaghetti out of a spaghetti and dumping it in every bowl they could find and trying to figure out is this something that might actually get them some headway? was this the predicate for what pence was doing? look, i have little confidence that donald trump understood the nuanc...

His position and breach in the commitments to the president and colleagues in the house and senate, however, she was far more muted in today's press briefing saying she can't speak for senator mansion and the white house remains focused on what is next. senator mansion said he's open to new programs that are fully funded over ten years. and "the washington post" reports that before negotiations broke down, senator mansion told the white house that he would accept a $1.8 trillion package that included universal prek for ten years and an expansion of obamacare and hundreds of billions of dollars...