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plan d was a dud and here we are at plan e. pay people to take them in their homes. common sense is curious when new york had the grand idea to be a sanctuary city in a state did anyone look up the word, sanctuary. it means refuge. oasis, shelter, retreat. safe house. new york offers 91 of that. big apple is one big virtue signal near low on plan f and having new york pol suspicions f things up enough? bring in the panel leslie marshall and texas policy foundation chuck, welcome. . les low it is interesting when desantis sends migrants to a sanctuary city it it is kidnapping the democrats sends them to pennsylvania to west chester to jacksonville, florida
i know there are no thirty four in the country, which is not greatountry. plan f and hopefully ron desantis has a plan for that as well. rick scott couldn't wrote anything about it either before him. so the taxes are obviously a problem. and that's why texas got soy pee many people out of california, including tesla,f califo when to there. and that will continue to happen. this well, tax is ntinuea propo i doubt that it passes. i doubt gavin newsom is interested in that. he can't inte afford to lose anykathy' more money. and kathy hochul has been ous tb there complaining about bleedin how the state is bleeding high net worth individuals and wantst you to come home. so saying i'm going to tax youu one point five percent on topt p of all this.el obviously not a compelling move . califo, the truth is that california, i thinrnk, was gavin newsom was talking about paying reparations. they've got a whole set up. monr so they're going to need that we money from people who are leavinthg to pay the reparations ,won't they ? well, i don't i have not seene t anybody draw that connectione de before you, so i don't know if that's worth going ahead. and welcome. i'll say on the wealth gap, youh
would be really reassuring for a lot of families around america, including mine. >> laura: i mean, you can't turn the dial without seeing him on every show, weekends -- he is seven days a week on television, so if they could put kamala out there, they would, stephen. we have airline issues. not really this portfolio, but we have baby food shortages still. >> supply chain. >> laura: supply chain. the big thing going on at the ports in california. and this guy is about well, let's talk about me. this is unbelievable. >> you got the supply chain crisis, we have the airline crisis, we have the infrastructure crisis and all they can do is put pete out on tv and either talk about his own marriage or talk about how roads in america are racist and our bridges are bigots buried >> laura: is either plan c? >> he's plan f, gee, h -- who knows how far down the list. their team, their roster is so incompetent. donald trump would mow through all of them. the reality is that whether it's biden or harris or pete buttigieg or gavin newsom, look at the catastrophe of
president again, reinstilling the so-called plan f, which is essentially to replace many, many civil servants, tens of thousands with those who are on the trump agenda. let me read you part of that reporting. trump allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he's re-elected purging potentially thousands of civil servants, filling those career posts with loyalists to him and his america first ideology. this follows the supreme court decision in west virginia versus epa, which stripped away a lot of administrative powers. you can see how this changes agencies in a significant way. what do you make of that reporting? and the real, real emphasis on it, should president trump get re-elected? what would that mean for america? >> well, it would be a direct tar -- targeted direct attack on the civil service and the idea that people serve across administrations. they don't serve a political party as they're working in government. president trump has said he wants people to be loyal to him.
>> looks like those fiscal cliff talks are breaking down. john boehner told congress to prepare for plan b. you know what that means when congress talks about plan b? the rest us end up with plan f and u. okay? that's the plan we get. >> gretchen: that's one of his better ones 'cause it's unfortunately probably true. there is still no deal -- >> brian: i'm predicting a deal on christmas eve. >> gretchen: i'm not. >> brian: christmas miracle. i think it will be an after school special next year. >> steve: i think it's going to go right to the end. >> gretchen: somehow from this we're going to move on to talking about the fiscal cliff. so what did the debt credit control senate do last night? they went to the movies. >> steve: steven spielberg was there, please.
>> basically that was an excuse for me to invoke the drug dealer's motto. are democrats overplaying their hand? >> to me, frank, you mentioned those magical thinking, sort of like we're just going to throw out the deduction and not specify it, that would be the only legacy of mitt romney that we're talking about right now. we all joked about how he was totally uninfluential in this party. this has stuck. didn't work for romney. people were not interested in that. i don't really see what interest the white house has in making a deal. so far all the public polling makes it look like, again, this could change, but all the public polling makes it look if we go over the cliff the republicans will be blamed and they're the ones being recalcitrant and the white house can make a deal on their terms because they won. >> in terms of who's going to get blamed if we go over the cliff, ari, is there a risk as the republicans put forth a plan f you're john public, does that
which stands no chance in the senate. >> well, i actually think both things could be true. so, for example, i think the house will pass that, right? and then they can go out and say, we voted unanimously on the paul ryan budget which would significantly reform entitlement programs and cut the -- cut spending and we did this thing on the debt ceiling and then because that won't be the final deal, what ends up happening is you get a little bit of the mcconnell deal and i wouldn't call it plan b. i would call that plan f, maybe, and then -- >> plan b. >> and you add a little bit of cuts, a little bit of reform and at the end of the day, what's going to happen is president obama will sign a debt ceiling increase that will not have tax hikes and you will wonder why president obama didn't initially offer that deal and spent a month really getting pummelled in the press and in the polls. >> you know, some of these plans have long-term goals, the balanced budget amendment and to look at things down the road, do
say, we voted unanimously on the paul ryan budget which would significantly reform entitlement programs and cut the -- cut spending and we did this thing on the debt ceiling and then because that won't be the final deal, what ends up happening is you get a little bit of the mcconnell deal and i wouldn't call it plan b. i would call that plan f, maybe, and then -- >> plan b. >> and you add a little bit of cuts, a little bit of reform and at the end of the day, what's going to happen is president obama will sign a debt ceiling increase that will not have tax hikes and you will wonder why president obama didn't initially offer that deal and spent a month really getting pummelled in the press and in the polls. >> you know, some of these plans have long-term goals, the balanced budget amendment and to look at things down the road, do you think any part of that will make it in here or will we have as brian had mentioned more of a patch type end to this? >> i think on the house side, you could maybe pass a balanced budget amendment. remember, it's easier to do that