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Some with support from the u.s. and others extremist, there was al-qaeda aaffiliates that cot gt money from qatar and other countries and with assad sort of on the ropes and iran not doing enough. russia came in and contributed its air power and that's really when we saw the tide turn against the rebels. elizabeth: and they have a fiscal interest, a port they wanted access to. have they gotten what they've wanted. are they happy with what they want? >> that's the debate, what does russia want in syria? they have a port they want. and an airfield, maybe that's their lane interest. maybe they do...

Penalty 1 million. >> for that, 2600 employee who is handle tax issues for small businesses and people w sma file -- who are self-employed, went to anaheim california and stayed in the hilton and two other hotels. they were esseoially managers so they were learning about leadership and training and eadeibly learning about security because this was the yeard that a guy who was pissed as hell at the irs crashed his plane interest a field office in austin,illing anic irs employee. this was traumatizing and one of the focuses of the conference was security. >> greta: they have traumatized o ny oth...