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The investigators to do their job. >> and michael, just in trms of the new evidence that the united states is now talking about, so saying there's the missing missile, watching it being transported from eastern ukraine across lines into russia, it does strike me when i hear that it's almost too obvious. it's almost surprising they wouldn't try to cover their tracks a little bit more. does that hit you at all? >> kremlin propaganda, this is a type of warfare, plausible deniability, misdirection. some of the attempts to do this are so absurd because we have satellite footage, intercepts and all ...

Ukraine. the door has not opened. the president has not gotten off the plane. they're waiting to get off the plane. again, there is the president arriving back in washington, d.c., now headed to the white house in just a little bit. so everyone, we're talking about this tragedy, of course, of flight 17. so we're back with everyone. back with me now is major general james spider marks, fran townsend, and also matthew rojansky. matthew, this is a question that i promised you before the break. what is vladimir putin likely to do as a response to this crisis? >> so, i think if you look at the evid...

Plane. >> precisely, which is why, as i say, all the signs suggest that what happened here was that the russian government has had this strategy off training these rogue elements within ukraine to make this kind of trouble for the ukrainian government. this thing went badly awry as a result of that. but frankly, in a perfectly predictable way, when you start using these kinds of forces to do your dirty work for you, something like this is bound to happen because these are not disciplined forces that are under tight command and control from the kremlin. and back to the first point you were maki...

Anything to hear that ring tone. anything right now. >> reporter: nick is joining us live now. what are investigators willing to say at this point? >> they're not telling the mom a lot right now. plausible deniability. they haven't ruled anything out. son-in-law may be part of that investigation. we don't know. i asked the mom. you could hear her say that absolutely not. there's no way he had anything to do with this. he did take a day before he reported her disappearance to call police. i asked the mom why would he take so long? if my girlfriend was missing, i would call friend or family or e...

Because he read it in the newspaper. >> yeah. we'll get more into that. >> kimberly, plausible deniability. we talked about that with president obama. isn't it the same thing? don't his people shield him from some of the stuff that he probably knows about? >> perhaps. >> but as you said, the buck stops with him. >> if i-95 was closed down from florida to new york, do you think he would have asked the question. >> let's talk about his management style because the whole question is he a contender for 2016? is he fit for the white house? definitely one of the front-runners like hillary clinton is...