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With the supreme court ruling and in particular with republicans trying to attack on policy grounds this idea it's a horrible tax? >> so here's what i think is happening because i don't think that the entire party is this confused about what a debate between president obama and governor romney will be on a health care issue. the reason we're scheduling this vote, it is dog days of summer, nothing else is going on. fourth of july will be over. freedom, fireworks. then they'll say, okay, we've done our repeal vote. there's nothing we can do now that we've done our repeal vote, we'll have to wait...

Not going to get insurance. >> right. if you're going to free load when you're at your most critical and most expensive there a fee attached to your health care. >> obviously that's the rationale for what happened thomas mass signed by governor romney. for a while his position was, yes, that was appropriate in the states but not appropriate for the united states congress to dç it. this is something that should be done at the states. then the line he used in the press conference after the decision was this was bad policy. if you are making an argument on policy grounds it's not clear why the p...

Pbs, he had this to say about the obama administration's decision that will require catholic institutions to provide contraceptive coverage in health care plans for their employees. >> the fallout is cataclysmic for the white house and for the president. >> joining me now is mark sheels. mark, thanks very much for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you, lawrence. >> don't go on and on. we can't talk all night like on pbs, because we have commercials here, mark, okay? we have to get to a commercial eventually. tell us -- a lot of our viewers haven't heard the case you're making about why th...

Shields. mark, thanks very much for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you, lawrence. >> now, listen. don't go on and on. we can't talk all night like on pbs because we have commercials here, mark, okay? we're going to have to get to a commercial eventually. tell us -- a lot of our viewers here haven't really heard the case that you're making about why this is cataclysmic for the president. talk about it on policy grounds and talk about it on political grounds. >> okay. first on policy grounds. it's an incredibly narrow constructionist definition of religion. what it basically says to the ...