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The law. it is how you choose to enforce it. each of policies that has been outlined, are about increasing harshness. making it harder to stay. excluding people more quickly. >> they said we're going to give blanket deferrals. this is what barack obama enforced prior to daca. the idea that this is cruel and mean. there is a provision in the law. >> that's exactly why the president, and you can, a to you constitutionality of what barack obama did all day. i see both sides of it easily. the policy judgment was it is not fair the other way. they should stay. your argument is, this administration ...

Where you can come here and apply for asylum, but you will stay in mexico pending the review of the application. the policy judgment being there if they get inside this country, there's going to be an attrition rate, catch and release is what it's called, you're not going to be able to find these people again. why don't you like that solution? >> we have asylum laws, refugee laws, those are the laws of our nation, those are the laws well established and i think that this new criteria being proposed of saying to people fleeing violence, death, gangs, murder, god, why should they have to wait on...

Been on the program before talking, do you remember the hostage taking of the dreamers and the democrats response was $5 billion? >> right. >> and then they increased and so we said, how do -- what do we do with the kidnappers of our dreamers? what is the ransom, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, dick durbin went and offered this president $25 billion? what did he say? no. because it isn't about the wall, it's about destroying our immigration system. it's about destroying and stopping this being a nation -- a welcoming nation. they want to destroy immigration as we know it, the foundation of a...

It's interesting that one the accusers, there were five or six total that were used as witnesses, six total accusers that were used as witnesses and there they just said that they are hoping one of the witnesses said they are hoping that this changes the law in nevada on the statute of limitations. >> that's up to the state legislators. most are five or seven years. there has been a movement to change them but not a successful one yet. >> julie: is the statute of limitations unfair. earlier you mentioned there were memory issues. some people seemed to block out memories, it could be years befo...

Into bill clinton. raymond. sixth circuit court of appeals. >> he had a decade on that court and for justice kennedy, we could see people who are following their boss in this job. he has articulately on a host of issues, first amendment, second amendment, how to interpret statutes and that is a key thing knowing someone will interpret a statute as written and bring their policy judgment in. i like that he writes in many ways like neil gorsuch where he tries to break it down for the lay reader. he gets into the legal stuff but wants to make sure this is accessible to the american people. heathe...