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The bigger issue that is on my issue whatever i see the stuff in the policy space which is, again who are you trying to help, who are trying to make better off and what public policy problems do you get up in the morning, thinking about how to solve? >> what is the desantis team trying to achieve with these gimmicks? >> i think the secretary asked the question, who is desantis trying to help with these extremist gimmicks because i'll tell you who is not helping, he is not helping himself. we are looking at battleground states polling right now and the good news for on desantis is that people a...

It's a framework for analysis. it helps us understand what policy options are available to us. as you discussed in a previous segment, congress sees things very differently this time. they took advantage of the policy space that was available in ways that they did not after the financial crisis, and the previous session. it's why we had a much more anemic recovery then, by comparison. a much deeper hole to dig out this time. but boy, did we get out of it quickly. it was through an application of a much more robust fiscal policy response. and empty, i think it's helpful in explaining why we wer...

Very clear statewide success in florida, has not been on the national stage, and has not faced the type of attack, the type of intensity of a primary challenge. and the president seemed to allude to that late last year when he was asked about desantis and a potential challenge. he has attacked desantis in the past, calling him a trump incarnate making clear that in his view trump and desantis are mostly interchangeable, which is a not so subtle effort on the political side of things. but i think the biggest way that you will see the president target desantis is in the policy space. he was down...

The supreme court is not last because they are always right, they are always last. that is the thing that people have to remember. when you are looking at it from any sort of overall sense of judgment, a place of judgment in terms of the decision that being made. you are on point when you say, without the notion of precedent being adhered to, we are throwing that out, it takes the rails off the entire thing. i think one of the things, zoom even for the back, this is going to cause us to do -- when we are talking about, as an electorate, where we go from here. look at our elected officials and ...

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