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thank you, panel. as always, thanks for inviting us into your home tonight from concord, new hampshire, that s it for this special report, fair, balanced, and unafraid. no online show tonight. greta goes on the record right now. developing now, ukraine out of control. more missiles shooting down planes, this time fighter jets. so were they fired by the same attacker who s took down flight 17? at this hour president obama is on the west coast busy on his fundraising trip. meanwhile, back at home in washington, d.c., senator john mccain is calling the obama administration cowardly. he will go on the record in just moments. fox news steve harrigan live in ukraine with the very latest. steve? greta, two more planes shot down in eastern ukraine today. this time both military planes. they were f-2 fighters. soviet era made by the ukrainian government flying low within the crash site. near the border with russia.
likely flying low in support of infantry. ukraine is mapping an offensive now against the rebels. they were probably hit with shoulder mounted rockets. not the sophisticated antiaircraft missiles that were used to bring down that civilian malaysian liner but really a sign of just how dangerous the skies in ukraine are. and just how dangerous that site remains with this hot war going on. a number of international experts still haven t been able to reach the scene and begin the work. different turn it of events for some the victims after days in body bags and on broken down trains, a real turn for the better as far as respect and dignity goes for 40 victims who have made it to the netherlands. they were put on private hearses and given a sign of respect from the dutch nation. the identification project will begin now. the rest of the bodies will arrive in nethers lie the end of the week. days to week to make identification using d.n.a. analysis of teeth and hair before those bodies are
repatrioted. greta, back to you. steve, as it calmed down at all or i mean obviously if they shot down two fighter planes not shot down on the air but what about on the ground. on the ground, the rebels are actually losing territory. they retreated from the outskirts of this city where i am now, moving into the city center and kicking out university students and taking over their dorm story tropical storm dormitories. keep in i understand moo, both sides have heavy armor and rockets. this is a city of a million people. so donesk could be in a real fight. thank you. john mccain with razor sharp words for the administration calling it cowardly in the handling of the ukraine crisis. nice to see you sir. thank you, greta. cowardly why. cowardly not to give these people weapons for which to defend themselves. i m not positive that this wouldn t have happened but i think if the ukrainians had been giving what they were
begging for rather than mres, i m not making this up. they finally decided to give them mres but they didn t want to fly them this. leased german trucks to truck them in. i m not making that up. we see these weapons pouring across the border from russia into eastern ukraine. we won t give them any defensive weapons. they may have been able to succeed in moving those, quote: rebels as they are called out of ukraine and maybe this wouldn t have happened. what s the backup of president obama? why wouldn t he want to do that? what i was told, they didn t want to provoke vladimir putin. the misreading of vladimir putin is the most amazing thing to me that it is just boggles the mind. and when i say it s cowardly. i think it s cowardly not to help people who are begging to for our help to eject people who are ininvestigating their invading their country.
taking crimea. literally invading their country. these people that are in the country are, some of them are, quote: russian-speaking ukrainians but a hell of a lot of them are just russians who have come in at the behest of vladimir putin to create unrest. if you continue to have that part of ukraine in turmoil, their economy cannot recover. that s where the major industry is. how do you stop putin at this point? oh, i think slap sanctions, sector sanctions on. send the weapons to these people, move reinvigorate our missile systems. and check republic and poland. move nato troops into at least temporarily into areas that are more surrounding this area of the world where there is such unrest. and condemn our so-called european friends. do you really think that the
french are going to revoke the sale of those two helicopter carriers hot russians who have openly said they could have gotten the georgia operation done in 45 minutes with those carriers. the europeans are not going to do anything until they are energy independent, senator hole green, barrasso and i put together a proposal that within three years we could get natural gas from fargo, north that coat to europe and that will change the whole scenario. until they are energy independent, the europeans aren t going to do a damn thing. well, even with his own party, he has people objecting, senator feinstein objecting to him and his fundraiser. at least that s the way i read this. this is senator feinstein. i m not going to tell the president what to do. but i think the world would very much respect his increased attention on this matter. and i think there ought to be increased attention.
well, he was out in california, she ought to be glad of that. but, look. out in california, you know what he said at a fundraiser today. he was talking, he said i would love nothing more than a loyal and rationale opposition. basically saying the g.o.p. is not loyal and rationale. the self-pity that he continues to exhibit is really kind of sad, really. you know, i can t work with them and all. when is the last time he really called leaders of both parties together over at the white house, say, for a dinner, a social event, you know, that reagan was best at, clinton did, bush did. why isn t he? i cannot explain it except to say that he does not have this desire to have social interface with people and sit down and try to work things out. right now, we he have got ukraine. we have got the border. israel? we have got israel. we have got iraq. we have got more problems, more crises than i have ever
seen both foreign and domestic. i said i have never seen more turmoil. everybody says i m talking about turmoil in the world. i have never seen more. you might want to hear my off-the-record at the end of the show tonight. i know you have got a busy schedule. you might want to hear what i have to say about that nice to he so you, sir. thank you. news tonight that a month ago ukraine had asked the u.s. and nato jamming to block very painful question could that radar jamming equipment had we delivered it, could it have prevented the downing of flight 17, the daily beast eli lake broke that story. nice to see you, eli. what did ukraine ask from us and nato and when. specifically asked for electronic warfare technology. the idea would be radar technology and jamming out date and russians can defeat it. if you can somehow jam the
radar then you deny the admissibility of adversary to aim. at the time they asked nato for radar jamming, would it have been possible or likely or probable to be able to get that equipment to ukraine so in time it might have prevented this crash? no. this wasn t asked for some kind of technology given the time frame nobody says it would have been able to get there to prevent that crash. they were asking for it we have to understand is last month when the united states publicly disclosed that they did see these systems from russia coming into ukraine. and that was a point at which this was absolute. is this just simply a back off of the obama administration to want to get their hands into the ukraine separatist movement problem? there has always been an intelligence issue because the ukrainian military in particular was extremely
close to the russians until february. there is a concern very sensitive equipment given to the ukrainians could be reverse engineered by the russians. fascinating article by the daily beast that you broke. thank you, eli. thank you. not just ukraine. try our borders. disturbing new information about immigration crisis. new research showing that children under 12 years old are are the fastest growing group of minors crossing our border compared to pew research compared to last year, 117% increase in the number of children 12 and younger caught at the border. 117% increase. and the l.a. times molly hen see joins us. nice to he so you, molly. hi, greta. thanks for having me. molly, why the huge jump, the 117%? why do people think that s jumping so high? well, and that 117% represents children who are being caught crossing the border unaccompanied. without their parents. this is a variety of reasons i talk to some of the
children as well as parents who came with children. we have seen a tripling in the number of those kids who have been caught with their parents crossing. you hear people say that they heard about these permissos that he they would be given permission to statement you hear about people talking about economic conditions, poverty, violence, threats from gangs, extortion also coming for medical help. well what sort of provoked the permissos all of a sudden becoming so prevalent that you hear so much about it. why? it s give to say. the people i talked to i pressed them. i was down in the border a couple of weeks ago, i went out with border patrol and out with them apprehending people. i would ask them did you hear about these per missos i heard on the news or my friends wasn t exactly clear how they were finding out. continue to come into the country. in terms of what is their condition when he they arrive, the ones you saw? well, i was able to go in
with border patrol to one of the stations in brownsville, texas, where the children are housed and we saw the children. we weren t able to speak it them or interview them but they have added a lot to accommodate the children. they have added showers. they have volunteers and fema staff who come and take them out for recreation outside. the border patrol agents who i spoke with said look, we are not trained to work with children. these facilities were not designed to be housing them. so then they do turn them over within 17 hours to run longer term shelters. the facilities here on the border have been overwhelmed. in recent weeks they have seen a little bit of a drop of the number of children who have been apprehended. not clear whether that is going to continue, whether it s sustainable. molly, thank you. thank you. it s not just the border states. thousands of immigrant children moving on right through the border states to states across america and many governors don t know how they will pay for them. now, several governors
demanding president obama take action. gary herbert joins us. good evening, sir. good evening to you, greta, great to be with you. governor, you and several other governors have written a letter to the president of the united states. what did you write the president and what do you want? well, i think we re exhibiting frustration about the immigration problem. particularly with 57,000 undocumented children being at our southern border. as we have asked about that, we are finding out that not only are they there, but they are being placed with relatives and sponsors who are also undocumented. further just exacerbating the problem. is this, i mean, do you have any real problem now or are you predict that you are going to have a problem later you? are not a border state but you are a big state. i mean, are these just sort of like you are worried about what s to come? that is certainly part of it and it s not just about utah. it s about america. we are not a border state but a lot of undocumented
immigrants filter up to utah. we have about 100,000 we estimate now in the state of utah. there has been kind of a diminishment of that because of the recession. enough to that the economy is starting to turn around, you see this surge is taking place. why we are sending parents and young people on the bordered in the hope of getting inside america really is puzzling in many ways and certainly not a very good healthy immigration policy for america. you have had any sort of interaction or response. i realize you just sent the letter to the president. any response from the obama administration so at least you are considering or willing to work with you or do they ignore you? well, i don t think they have ignored us. secretary burwells with sensitive to questions being asked on both sids of the aisle but particularly sponsors that they don t ask the question whether they are documented or not. the estimates are that nearly half of them aren t. so we have a problem there
that she at least is aware of. the question is really what do we do? i think for governors, we are frustrated that nothing is really happening in washington, d.c. there is a dearth of leadership. the president won t even go down to the border to look and see firsthand what s taking place. he needs to come up with a plan of first securing the border. i think that s something everybody agrees with why can we not at least take that first step of securing the border and deincentivizing people from coming across the border. you talk about the young people, and that s a significant rise of what 117% of these young people that are coming to our borders, most of them unaccompanied with adults. but, adults are still coming, also. they are the largest numbers still. if there is no plan, why do you not feel ignored you? said a minute ago you don t feel ignored. i would think i would feel ignored if i thought this was a big problem coming down the road and i alerted of them to it and got basically no plan. well, when i say ignored,
we had the meeting thatment proked the letter just a week ago. i m going to give them at least some grace period to respond to the letter. again, i think the secretary of health and her response, she is happy to do something that s very difficult. she accident create policy on the border. that s the congress and that s the president. so, from the standpoint of nothing is being done, we are kicking the can down the road, i guess you are right, we are being ignored. frankly the governors are tired of it we have tried to do some things in our states. we have been told very directly by the courts this is a federal issue. okay. we ll back off. but we expect the federal government to do something. and, again, the president has got to lead. he has a 3.7 billion-dollar program out there. senator reid and the senate democrats have a 2.7 billion-dollar proposal. there they are only a billion apart. i know in washington, d.c. that s a rounding error. that s real money to the city of utah and taxpayers. they have got to show leadership and bring people
together, particularly we all to secure the border. i don t understand why that can t be d governor, thank yo. thank you. and this week, the presidents of guatemala, el salvador and honduras will meet with president obama here in washington at the white house. joining us, guatemalaen foreign minister fernando, nice to he see you sir. nice to see you as well. welcome to the united states. thank you very much. why are children leaving your country for the u.s.a.? well, i think what happened the last three years is that the criminal found a way of fooling families. central america that they could get some kind of legal establishment and they provide a service and because of the number of cases you have your judicial system now, migration, some of them have stayed longer, and so, started to say to the families, you see, we told you, you know, they are staying in the u.s. legally and they were fooled because of that and that s why so
many children have come now. what s sort of unusual though is guatemala, mexico, to the united states. and just this month, the president of guatemala and the president of mexico signed an agreement to make it sort of an easier transit through mexico, right? no, no. that s not correct. okay. the agreement is the agreement has two parts, right? one is that along the border that we share, 80-kilometers within mexico and also within guatemala, there would be some kind of a there is a lot of trade and we activity. beyond that point, 80-kilometers within mexico, control starts to get stricter and stricter. until they reach more or less 3300 south of mexico convocation city. mexico city. mexico has said very clearly they don t want migrants from central america to move to northern mexico and they
will collaborate. are they actually stopping them at the southern mexican border? the idea is that with this system created, everybody in guatemala will be having a card. there will be issued free by the government. which allows them to go into mexico? within those 80-kilometers. that s why it looks like it s easier to get into mexico. let me ask you another question. the children being deported back to guatemala. are you able to absorb them? by all means, no problem with that. you want your children back? no problem with that. what do you want when the president meets with your president meets with our president at the white house this week, what is it that will help your country so that we don t k. at least try to put a lid on this problem for both countries. two major issues. one is the issue of coordinated action international criminal networks. i think that is important so we can have all of this international networks under control in the u.s. and
mexico and in central america. they work along the three territories and the second thing that is very important is long-term investment in social and economic opportunities most children are left because there is not enough secondary education. guatemala. if we send them back to you or deport them back which is what is happening you can t even put them in schools? no. so you have got an absorption problem if they come back to you? not really. because, just give you a figure. okay. more or less 25,000 children coming in the last three years from guatemala. okay? we have every year 400,000 newborn children in guatemala. 400,000. children below the age of 18, 6.5 million. so 25,000 is not an enormous number that he we cannot absorb. mr. foreign minister thank you for joining us, i hope we can work this out because it s serious for
both countries, thank you. thank you. horror writer steven king blasting the party and christians. what did he just write that s sparking so much qulowt rage. michael moore of hollywooda? hypocrite? you have to find out what we just found out. i m doubly impressed! phillips digestive health. a daily probiotic. nothing s missed with tenatwist don t miss a beat. nothing s missed with tenatwist oooh discover the fearless protection of tena. so absorbent even when you twist not a drop escapes. nothing s missed with tenatwist when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs.
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power and washington, d.c. political correspondent byron york. rick? he is tearing up the twitter account? yeah. using religion and typically you use religion when you use it as weep. you don t use it proactively. use it against someone else to say, you look at their beliefs and say this is something that runs contra. that is always problematic, because for a long time and for most of american history, the presumption has been that someone s individual religious beliefs that s their own beliefs, that s their own business to. ascribe politics to it is asking for trouble. i suspect suspect, kirsten, i don t know about allot about steven king he would do a lot about this argument if he were down at the border handing out sandwiches or something. i have done a the love reporting on this story i can tell you pretty much everybody i have talked to who has been handling these children are from christian organizations. i mean, you it is the christian organizations that are taking them in. it s the u.s. the council of catholic bishops. it s catholic charities. it s evangelical
organizations. almost these are christians taking care of these kids. horror writers. what they write on twitter is horror. they are unaware of how integral these christian organizations really are to our social services to this country and how much they really do pick up the slack in a crisis. i actually think michael moore later another segment. but, boy, byron, like is he trying to compete with michael moore for hypocrite of the night. unless he is down on the border contributing a lot of money i don t know about for these kids. it s not a religious issue. the government has a right to set its immigration policy to enforce immigration policy. i will say though in this particular debate about the unaccompanied minors coming over the border. we have seen at love religious references. if you listen to nancy pelosi, the house minority leader she has said on a number of times she has cited the conference of catholic bishops to suggest that most of the children should be given homes in the united states and should not
be returned to their home country. there has been a lot of religious references. shouldn t steven king then be pointing his keyboard more at nancy pelosi and not at the christians who might be down at the border or even like the tea party which is not a religious issue? i mean, wouldn t he be better suited to do that? well, certainly not anybody. handing out sandwiches. certainly not anybody who is actually taking action to help had the people coming over. is she doing anything? take leader pelosi, is she doing anything? a lot of people are talking about it in washington. there are so many talkers, everybody has an opinion. you got steven king who has an opinion who are the good guys, the bad, anybody doing anything, rick? she is pushing immigration reform. how? fundraiser. clearly she would like to seat immigration reform bill, that s the democratic prescription for a the lotted of this. i don t think it s fair to expect every lawmaker to be handing out sandwiches. i used that as a reference. the people who have the power to do something, have the authority to do something they are not doing it they are not up on capitol hill pounding out
some bill. she is out at a fundraiser in california. i m not expecting her to hand out sandwiches, but. it is remarkable 8 days before this congressional recess everybody agrees this is a big pressing national issue. no sense of urgency around it everyone is throwing up their hands too far apart have to come back after labor day. real possibility. nothing will get done before the recess. they should be engaged and maybe every single one of them doesn t need to be down on the border. it s such a huge issue. i think president obama should have gone to the border when he was down there. i think if they are going to talk about it, they should go down and see it firsthand and everybody see what s going on. i don t think they have to go to the border. at least back home in their offices writing legislation and talking to each other. anyway, panel, thank you. the irs scandal just got weirder, it has to do with lois lerner s emails. hear what the irs commissioner just said. that s next.
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big news from today s irs hearing. irs commissioner john koskinen confirming that investigators have found backup tapes in the lois lerner lost email probe. backup tape may, in fact, exist. i have no information as to whether there is anything usable on those tapes. why didn t you tell us you had the irs had destroyed emails that belonged to lois lerner. they were not destroyed as a conscious effort by the irs. if the folks like lois lerner and others would have spent more time working on the backlog and less time targeting groups, maybe morale would be better and maybe their backlog would be lesser.
not one piece of data could be covered. doesn t surprise you the american people just have a hard time believing that does it. there was no secret that we were hiding. right after the oversight hearing the irs commissioner talking directly to us on the record. my commitment is i want people to be comfortable that the irs is simply the tax administrator. we are not a political organization. we are not politically motivated when they hear from us, it has only to do with tax matters it has nothing to do with their background, their organization, their political beliefs. at this point, beginning it run out of documents to produce but we will continue to produce them as quickly as we can in response to the committee s request. all the information i have is that the tapes from backup tapes from three years ago were recycled and don t exist. i do know the inspector general came out in this hearing and earlier materials released by this committee has looked at some tapes and is reviewing them. to the extent that there? i information on them, that would be terrific. if they need outside help, i
would never oppose that again, as i say, it s our interest, my sense is, we produce 67,000 lois lerner emails, the vast majority of them aren t very interesting. we have got 24,000 that she sent during this period to other people. and so my sense is that it would be very good to know how many other emails there were. at this point there is no indication that they would be really exciting, but it would be much better for everybody to know that. representative jim jordan joins us. good evening, sir. good to be with you. if this weren t so serious i would be flippant and say who is on first. now the commissioner says he doesn t know he didn t know the backup tapes existed and now he doesn t know if there is anything on them. what does he know and where is this information? yeah. great question. because every time we interview someone else, we find out some new fact that contradicts what mr. koskinen has said under sworn testimony, under oath sworn testimony in front of the can i. let me ask you this, is he lying or uninformed or confused or what? today he indicated that he didn t even talk to his
chief counsel. his chief counsel knew in mid february that lois lerner s computer hard drive was unrecoverable. they didn t tell us untilsser i don t. four months. uninformed, incompetent in thinks job or deceitful. it s hard to say. what are you leaning towards. i think he isn t being square with us. that s a plight polite way of being deceitful. i asked him. why didn t you tell us in april when you said you did know. why did you wait all the way to june 13th? my theory is. this judicial watch does a foia request, they get email from the justice department. they forward the justice department. they get email that shows he was talking with lois lerner in 2013. woe bring in mr. pill gear in. right before the inspector general s report went published, this is may
of 2013 before. right before? actually days before. the email was two days before she went public. so we bring him, in we find out he not only talked to her then but in 2010. about what in 2010? about targeting? yes. about the whole citizens united case about the whole subject matter. we subpoenaed justice and we want all correspondence between justice and lois lerner. we get those emails. we then ask the irs why do we have to get this from justice? why didn t you provide them? here is the key fact. look at the time line. as a prosecutor did you that as well. that was june 9th when we sent that letter to the irs. june 13th is when they disclosed to the world, hey, we lost lois lerner s emails and they have been destroyed and they are unrecoverable. so you knew in february june 13th. why june 1st? because we sent a letter on june 9th saying we got email from the justice department that we didn t get from you. the justice department in 2010 before the inspector general s report if they are talking to lois lerner about targeting, the plot thickens very much. i mean, were they actually
talking about targeting them? it s worse than that, greta. the irs sent 1.1 million pages about c-4 organizations. 21 disks of information. a small portion of that contained taxpayer protected information. 6103. stuff you can t about donors. they sent out the fbi. that was in the fbi s possession for four years. this coordination and collaboration went clear back to 2010. once we had those emails and confronted the irs on it, suddenly four days later they tell the world oh, you know what? we lost lois lerner s emails. what is commissioner koskinen s goal though? he if you think he he is deceitful. he has every motive to do the opposite. tom cain one of the lawyers responsible for document in. up to 20. 80 people involved in the irs targeted. 82 identified. up to 20 may in fact have had computer crashes.
what s the odds of one fourth of the beam who are under part of the investigation having a computer crash? but that s what tom cain, the lawyer, the professional lawyer in charge of document production said to our staff last thursday. plot thickens, thank you, sir. thank you. and is the world just going to look the other way while christians get slaughtered by isis? just because they are christians? and they just wouldn t convert to islam. ambassador john bolton is here next. plus, michael moore wants more and more and more. yes, the same film maker who calls capitalism evil. is moore a hypocrite. greg gutfeld the star of so many shows here on fox news that i can t talk about them all is here to talk about that coming up. but if you have arthritis, this can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain, and improve daily physical function so moving is easier. because just one 200mg celebrex a day
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this is a a fox news alert. faa is extending the banned no u.s. airlines can fly to and from tel aviv. the faa says it continues to assess the danger of rocket attacks hamas at or near the
israeli airport. despite the ban on commercial flights. secretary of state john kerry on air force plane flying into tel aviv today. secretary kerry pushing for a cease-fire during a whirlwind of meetings he met with benjamin netanyahu. palestinian authority president mahmoud ahmadinejad and ban ki-moon. but, in southern gaza, no end in sight for the fighting. fierce battles still raging between israeli troops and hamas. and now to the terror in iraq. isis forcing thousands of christians to convert to islam, leave the country, pay a fine, or die by the sword. today on capitol hill, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle slamming the obama administration for failing to act quickly to stop isis. and former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us. genk, sir. you know, it s just unthinkable. isn t it? i mean, it s like how do we get to the point where we have christians being threatened with essentially genocide? well, i think the obama white house simply was not paying attention to what was going on. i mean, we don t know exactly what they were being
briefed on, but there was little doubt that for months and months, radicals were infiltrating the syrian opposition and, indeed, dominating large parts of it and a the notion that at some point they would link up with the disaffected sunnis in iraq against the al maliki regime, whether they had hard intelligence on it or not was a perfectly obvious possibility. and, yet, because of the disinterest in what was going on in iraq, they simply turned their eyes away. is this going to put a spotlight, this horrible crisis put a spotlight on the bigger picture? this persecution of christians is not just in iraq. you have got it in sudan. you have got it in nigeria and a lot of african countries. in paris now we have jewish shop owners being terrorized as a result of the conflict in israel. i mean, this is this is a terrible situation that s going on around the world. well, this is really a clash of civilizations when you have radical islam, in effect, going after
christianity and judaism where the clash occurs. and i don t think we should blink at it. i think this is a reality. and something we have to deal with it s not to say that that s what all muslims think or all christians think. but it s very clear that those who profess the radical islamist ideology intend to suppress the other religion. there is a part of me that never wants to be alarmist but part of me that studied history. we he have seen what happens when religious groups get persecuted. what are we going to it do? is there anything to do to try to protect these people, to try to stop this? well, let me just say, i think there is a fundamental problem at the front end, and that is in europe and in parts of the united states, including the current occupant of the white house, i don t think there is an understanding of what happens with religious if a that if a that theism, everything is seen as economic problem. if only these people weren t poor people would be okay. religion cuts across that and that s what we are
seeing. specifically in syria, and iraq, i think it s clear the united states has got to be able to go after the isis threat without doing one of two other things. one, strengthening iran s hand in what s left of iraq, or, two, attacking sunnies who are actually not part of the isis problem. it s hard to separate them. but i think we need a will the more targeted response going after isis leaders. that would be the steps i would take right now. all right. and, of course, thrown into the mix you have got the american in prison in iran who is a christian. i mean, i could go on and on and on the list it is a big list. anyway, thank you ambassador. thank you. michael moore calling capitalism evil. is he referring to his lake front mansion or giant new york city condo. hollywood hypocrisy next. there s a gap out there. that s keeping you from the healthcare you deserve.
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why is it always the poor have to suffer the misery? why isn t it ever bernie madoff up on the roof screaming for help or the head of city bank or the hedge fund guys at goldman sachs. i need you is t. sit here and say i m in the 1%. because it s important. i can t because i m not. you are there. no, i m not. i m not. you you are not in the 1%. of course i m not. how can i be in the 1%. pause you make billions. 90% of the income i want to give you away. 9 5% of your wealth and then you will do that. i will work for any legislation that doubles my taxes and yours. we have a system that enriches the few at the expense of the many. , capitalism is an evil and you cannot regulate evil. capitalism is evil? really? film maker michael moore seeming to enjoy the capitalism allowed him to get very rich and allowing him to buy nine holmes.
moore s divorce settlement exposing hypocrisy. co-host of the five and host of the red eye and host of the network. he is always on the air. that s true. greg, nice to he so you. michael moore, oh o, brother. what do you think? i hate to kick a man when he is down or round but is he $50 million, 9 homes. one of the homes is 10,000 square feet. he is richer than the chocolate pound cake that he eats on his toilet. and it exists. all this shows is the hypocrisy of a leftist. aist doesn t believe in being poor. he just doesn t want his opponents to be rich are. so it s okay if you are leftist and rich. but if you are a republican, if you are a conservative, that s evil. so, the it s about you can t have a proper share of the pie. he wants all of the pie. you know the thing that
disturbs me is i did poverty work for so long. and, you know, i have never been poor. i never want to be poor. and my heart bleeds for the poor, for people who are poor and struggle. but the problem is that what michael moore does is he makes people wrong for being successful. exactly. he makes it like he demonizes it. we wouldn t be talking about it tonight if he wasn t such a hypocrite. i don t begrudge his wealth at all. he goes around telling everybody else who has been successful and b puts his throat foot on the throat of people who are successful. is he trying to hold them back with his talk. i want him to be rich. i want everybody to be rich. that s a capitalist. is he against capitalism unless he is the capitalist. you know when he said he wasn t part of the 1%. dana perino pointed out he is not lying. is he part of the .001% at 50 million. is he really good oat making
documentaries about corruption and hypocrisy and fraud why doesn t he do a documented tri on himself? you know. i think it s profoundly disappointing and, you know, i wish that, you know, i wish that he i wish he liked success. i wish he appreciated his own success. i wish he encouraged everybody else who bothered to be successful. it s because he ascribes good and evil to value. if that money came from somewhere else, it s bad money. but if he makes his money exposing, you know, conservative hypocrisy or the evil of guns, then that s good money. his wealth is good but your wealth if you work at fox news, for example. your wealth must be evil. he says it s different. the money is different. all right. well you don t have to quote dana perino on this show, by the way. i heard her say that tonight. i watch the five all the
time, too. i didn t want to steal her joke or great point. i actually was going to steal it of course when you gave her credit for it, i couldn t very well do it. i would look pretty petty. greg, thank you. thank you. coming up, i m going to take you off-the-record. things are really a mess and something very important is missing big time. i m going to tell you what i m going to tell you what it is and then you can decide. od flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use od flow. helps you be ready anytime the moment s right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take alis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may causan unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache.
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if energy could come from anything?. or if power could go anywhere? or if light could seek out the dark? what would happen if that happens? anything.
let s all go off-the-record for just a minute. sometimes putting things in very simple terms makes the point. remember grade school or even high school when the teacher would leave the room for about three seconds there would be calm to make sure the teacher wasn t coming right back and then all hell would break loose. food fight kids would yell, throw stuff, food, spit balls, you name it of course, the bullies would take over and there would be total chaos. that s what happens when the teacher, the leader vanishes. all hell breaks loose. well, we got that now.
only the classroom is the world stage and this is dead serious. the teacher, president obama, has left the proverbial classroom. think about it. president of the united states, when they are doing their job are the leaders of the free world. their influence, stabilizing, effective, powerful and calming. it s called leadership. and now chaos. every place you look. ukraine, israel, vawk, and even our own border and even our allies are now rolling their eyes at us. leadership matters. mr. president, where are you? and that s my off-the-record comment tonight. thank you for being with us. we will see you again tomorrow night right here at 7 p.m. eastern. paul ryan will join us and he will unveil his new plan right here. plus, we will talk with the president of honduras about the border crisis. all tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m.: do you think michael moore is a a hypocrite or just misunderstood? vote in our gretawire poll. if you are tuning in before bill o reilly pick up remote

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site? definitely. on facebook darrell says not at all. they must alert the customers. thanks to everyone who responded. thank you for watching. we ll be here at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning bright and early. fox & friends starts now. good morning. it is tuesday, july 29. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. residents across the nation are waking up to devastation this morning. [screaming] tornadoes wreaking havoc from coast to coast. wow. it s not the kind of ad you would expect to see from a democrat. where do they think their electricity comes from? i ll make sure president obama gets the message. you can do that? why the president s own
party now apparently campaigning against him. the president has played 81 rounds of golf since 2012, but does it look like those rounds are helping his game, so to speak? here s what one guy just found in the woods. oh cool. mornings are better with friends. you re watching fox & friends. that s a great way to begin your day. that s an actual signature by john hancock. here in the studio right now, we ve got a rare 1860 letter written by mr. abraham lincoln who once upon a time was president of the united states. it s a guy it s a lincoln you probably have not seen before in that he writes as if he just burst on to the scene. he gives a major spoach at cooper union major
speech at cooper union and talks about his newfound fame. everyone, after they hear his speech they want that abraham guy, this congressman to speak on his behalf. and you know what happened right there. you know what? you can buy it. there is a fixed price on it. it is not going to be an auction. $40,000. we ll tell you about that and more. we ve got history in the studio. now let s turn over to heather nauert. a wild night with tornadoes. usually when we talk about tornadoes it s kansas or the midwest but not so on this occasion. we re talking about the state of massachusetts and we begin with that extreme weather this morning. a rare tornado barreling through a massachusetts suburb five miles outside of boston. look at this. look at the trees! they broke! that twister packing 120 miles per hour winds ripping a path of destruction nearly two miles long. take a look at this car, totally flipped offense on the sidewalk there. from above you can see the
roofs torn off the building. the national weather service says this is the first twister to hit that area since they started keeping records back in 1950. but that s not it. the destruction also out west, at least three tornadoes touching down in the denver area, one of them caught on camera near the airport. no reports of any major damage. we ll keep watching that. overseas, overnight israeli missiles striking nearly 70 targets in gaza, including a home of a hamas leader. prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel, of course, telling israelis to prepare for the long haul as the three-week campaign seems far from over. the death toll now stands at more than 1,000. in the meantime secretary of state john kerry facing harsh criticism by the israelis this morning over his attempts to negotiate a cease-fire. many say his deal favored hamas and ignore israel s key demands. the deadlocked jury in the jesse ventura
defamation trial is ordered to try again. deliberations set to resume today. it will be day six. ventura is suing former navy seal chris kyl for $15 million over a story he wrote about in his best selling memoir american sniper. kyl writes about punching jesse ventura out in 2006 after ventura said that the navy deserves to lose a few. though kyl never specifically mentioned ventura s name in his book it was only in subsequent interviews the name came out. kyl was killed at a shooting range last year. his wife testified at his trial in his place. the president, you know he likes to play golf. he s played golf 81 times since 2012 but are all those rounds helping him out? a golfer at a congressional country club in maryland claims to have found the ball the president used himself and he found it in the woods. he posted this picture of the ball on instagram with comment, the president played at congressional yesterday and i just found this in the woods off hole
number one. it looks like he s off-line once again. who knew that the president had a potus, president of the united states, on his own ball. the question is how far off the track is it? if you watch any golf, even the best golfers sometimes shank it into the next hole. let s talk about what the president is doing when he is not golfing and that is executive orders. it s not a big mystery. when he felt as though a couple of weeks ago nothing is going to get done he s right on immigration reform, he said i m going to take matters on my own hands. rumor has it once congress goes away he s going to do that and grant amnesty to parents, illegal parents of kids born here if you re born here, you can become a citizen that could add up to 3.8 million getting amnesty. upwards of five million that will get work permits that will be issued via executive action. this is astounding to many. the emphasis on amnesty as
well as work permits is shocking the nation. there is some saying this is complete lawlessness. why are we a nation of laws if we don t follow them? can we remain a nation of laws? senator jeff sessions was on the floor and says we have time to do something right now. we are not abiding by the law. he s specifically talking about the president. if president obama is not stopped in this action and he exceeds his power by attempting to execute such a massive amnesty contrary to law, the moral authority for any immigration enforcement henceforth will be eviscerated. it is absolutely not too late for us to restore a lawful system that treats applicants that come to america fairly and serves the national interest. this can be done. well, apparently what could be done yesterday was he and ted cruz, the senator from texas, were able to stir up enough support to get people, they said if you re going to do anything, do it right now.
call your senator, call your congressman in washington, d.c. for the most part they melted the phone lines yesterday. also yesterday there were a couple of protests outside the white house. but right across the street from it and also at lafayette square. what s curious about this, though, is according to reports, many of the people in attendance were illegal aliens. these are people who are not supposed to be in the country, according to news reports, and yet there they were protesting. and what s curious is apparently they didn t feel like, okay, if i m arrested i m going to get in trouble because for the most part the i.c.e. agents told one of our reporters that unless somebody has a serious criminal past, they re not going to get deported even though they re in the country illegally. so they had nothing to worry about, so there they were. they re going to protest again after that as well. meanwhile, as congress is going to work this week and then going to take five weeks off, it doesn t mean the catastrophe at the border is going to attack any time off. in fact, it s 24 hours a
day. you ve got 1,000 men who are not there yet in texas. for the most part these border patrol are underfinanced, undermanned and overwhelmed. as congress takes off without providing any funds or reenforcement for the border possibly, the national border patrol counsel sean moran says we re going to work through the summer. we will be on doubt. we don t take five weeks off. we will be here doing our jobs. that includes rescuing people, especially kids who probably don t know survival skills. they re going to be working. no recess for them, not to mention the fact that jobs right now are a major achilles heel in our nation and sessions also mentioned, to jump back, he asked would this effectively granting amnesty and work permits, be good for the american worker? five million people and their parents being able to work when americans here are not able to find jobs.
is it good for the african-american community? he said the c.b.o. report didn t indicate such. while they re hoping to get something done by thursday, border patrol agents working hard. the u.s. chamber of commerce is examining it, whether or not this is a good idea. i bet they re going to come back and say yes because they do like cheap labor. meanwhile, right there in washington, d.c., the big newspaper, the washington, d.c. post, clearly leans to the left it is a progressive newspaper. what is curious, though, is they re talking about the president of the united states and suddenly they re talking about whether or not he is competent. remember back in 2008 he was the guy who said, i m going to restore competence to the white house. has he done that? no. on an editorial written by chris scalese, he said obama is faltering badly on the competence question and in doing so badly imperilling not only his ability to enact any sort of second term agenda but also democrats chances this fall, serious events
from the v.a. scandal to the ongoing border crisis have badly undermined the idea that obama can effectively manage the government. even the washington post is saying that the president of the united states competence is putting his party in peril. they did a poll, cnn did, and only 42% said he s governing competently, 57% saying he is not. considering it was around 80% when he took office in 2008, it is pretty significant. on top of that, i always said if the president wants to make major gains, he doesn t have to go on the campaign trail. all he has to do is make quick, decisive, well thought out decisions on the myriad of crises happening in the world now. then people will say maybe i didn t vote for him, man, he is in charge. if he does go on the campaign trail, he might actually have an adverse effect on those that are running in the democrat party. many are stepping aside.
we showed you that ad, a west virginia candidate who is going to join us later in the program, she runs an ad right now really shutting the lights off in the white house, actually taking a stance against the president as she moves into election season. she s going to join us. i think that is an example of somebody in a red state who knows if i run as a democrat and support the president, i have no prayer and no chance at all. the same with senator joe manchin. he s the closest thing to a moderate democratment senate. if he was a liberal democrat, he would not have that job. and the president is as anti-coal as anybody in the country. he s got his pen and he s got his phone and they re talking about changing the rules so states can change down coal plants and open up solar things. the question is we hear chris cillizza writing in the washington post talking about there is no competence here. you ve got somebody running for the senate in a state
curptly where there is a democrat who has a u.s. senate job and they re taking a shot at the president. the big question is would you want president obama to campaign for you if you ran for office. according to a brand-new fox news poll, a majority, actually by a landslide say no, stay home. go ahead, hit some golf balls into the woods. no photo op there. nearly six in ten that would say no. please don t take a photo with me when i m running for your party. democrats, four years ago fully 82% wanted president obama to campaign on their behalf. that is down to 69%. they have a drop there, 13 points within his own party. please be as far away from me as possible. send money. just don t come. george bush had the same situation in his final mid term before his second term was up. meanwhile, straight ahead. many calling for a special prosecutor to investigate the i.r.s. but our next guest says that s a bad idea. really? he will explain why next. have you heard about
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i.r.s., but our next guest says that is a bad idea. here to explain is former federal prosecutor and author of this book doing extremely well, andrea mccarthy. i m surprised to see you say that. why don t you think a special prosecutor would do a more thorough job than the justice department or the oversight committee? when people hear special counsel they think independent prosecutor. there is no independence from the executive branch when you re talking about prosecution which is an executive power. any independent counsel or special counsel they would appoint would have to answer to president obama and eric holder. we remember ken starr got to the bottom of it much to the chagrin of the clinton administration. we remember during the valerie plane investigation things didn t go swemgly for scooter swimmingly for scooter libby. why do you think we ll get the truth out of a special prosecutor now? you have very different
administrations and different attorneys general who actually let the system work. but you have a justice department who has a track record of abusing authority. the thought that holder and obama will pick somebody is farcical. we have a justice department that doesn t seem to be looking into the i.r.s. we see the oversight committee making progress but the nation seems not as interested as you would think. why do you think so many in congress are calling for this if the reality is as you say it? i like to think they probably hope the system would work and they re being naive about it. what we know about this scandal we know because of congress s investigation and because of some freedom of information act law sought going on with private litigants. if you kick this to a special prosecutor who gets kicked by holder, they re going to say grand jury secrecy, we can t talk about this anymore. the witnesses are going to
say we can t cooperate. there is now a serious criminal investigation. and then it will lapse into a black hole until president obama pardons everyone at the end. what options do they have? let s keep doing what we re doing now. it s painful, it s not as smooth as you d like, but congress can get to the bottom of it. what i would do is expand the jurisdiction of the special committee that s already looking at benghazi and give it the i.r.s. scandal. because a special committee, unlike the subject matter committees in congress, can look at something reasonably like a grand jury and get to the bottom of what happened. a special committee would be the the other thing that would be interesting is if the senate flips, then we ll be coming at it with two bodies. andrew mccarthy thank you for showing up. 19 minutes after the hour. straight ahead, atheists fought to remove the 9/11 cross at grond ground
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we ve got news for you. would he start with breaking news from overnight. the cousin of out going president of afghanistan hammed car karzai was
killed this morning. a new york city court ruling the cross at ground zero can remain at the 9/11 museum. a group of atheists filed a lawsuit arguing the cross violated their first amendment rights, but a three-panel judge disagreed saying the beams are a genuine historical artifact, not a symbol of christianity. the cross stays. and that s the news. the summer beach day turns deadly when light neng strikes more than a when lightning strikes more than a dozen people. here with health hazards at the beach, dr. david samadi. we heard that news and talked about it here. death by lightning seems unfortunate to the 19th degree. how common is this? number one, i want to make sure people don t avoid the beach. it s fairly safe and we
want people to enjoy. but obviously if there s a thunderstorm out there and lightning, you want to make sure you get out of the beach. water a conductor. you can get massive shock if it hits you. that shock can hit your heart and all the chambers of the heart can go out of sync and you can have a cardiac arrest. it is the biggest shock you can get. get out of the water. not even wet sand; correct? exactly right because water is a great conductor. it can affect you. if you have a car, getting getting get into your car because that is connected to the land and can get rid of a lot of the lightning threat you have. go out there but use common sense. that s one of the reasons as a urologist i m covering the beach and water stuff. people think run under a tree. that could be one of the worst places you could be.
there was a story about a guy who was in a sand tunnel and it collapsed. ten feet of sand on top of him. he suffocated. this is unfortunate. don t make it so deep. obviously these sand tunnels can really collapse. what they did was they rushed to bring him out and be able to clear his airway but they were not able to save him. it is a sad story. the bottom line is if you have children around, make sure these tunnels are shallow. people think it s sand, it s z. you can get out quickly but if you re under ten feet of it, it s like concrete. about 30 cases between 1997 and 2007 that were experienced. the spring-eating amoeba. how would you get this brain eating amoeba.
how do you know if your child has been swimming and has this. how common is this? don t be scared, elisabeth. can you sense the fear? i can hear it. it is extremely rare. when you go to lakes that are untreated water, extremely warm temperature, you re going to see some of this amoeba. don t dive right through it because amoeba can get through your nose. if you drink it nothing happens. but if it goes through your knows it can go to the brain area. it can cause enself enselfencephylatis. it can cause neurological damage and coma and death. those are rare cases. you have to be in places full of these parasites and you have to basically get into your nose. if you put a plug and keep your head above water if you happen to be in those lakes, you re safe.
these are rare incidents, unfortunate where we see some of these amoebas getting to us. something a lot of people do at the beach, they step on something, it s a sea you urchin. i ve done it myself but occasionally they can kill us. those are poisonous ones. if you see skin allergies, you want to detect it. you know pretty much immediately when you ve stepped on it. exactly. go to your doctor because they can give you injection to calm the allergies and save you. if you see allergic reaction on your skin, see your doctor immediately. don t take the chance. exactly. these are rare cases. i want you to go out, have a good time. we had such a long winter in new york city. i know but this is great to be aware. absolutely right. thank you, dr. samadi. straight ahead action it was supposed to be a three-hour tour but turned into a nightmare.
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it s amazing. it s your historical shot of the morning. today is the unveiling of a newly discovered letter from president lincoln that you ll only see here on fox & friends thanks to
this guy, nathan rabb, president of the rabb collection named after himself. nathan, good job. besides lincoln, which we ll get to in a second, you brought other historical letters. you can get these letters, one price it s not an auction. we ll tell you how. first, what have we got here? that is a letter of thomas jefferson written while he s president. not a copy? the real thing. entirely in his hand. these are all original. he is attempting to establish a u.s. presence in the louisiana area. before we bought it? right. basically trying to say we re here, woaf a claim. that is to benjamin franklin s doctor. what have we here? a letter of albert einstein where he s warning against the possibility of nuclear annihilation and it would threaten the weak as well as the strong. jefferson how much? 36 thousand. einstein how much? 13 thousand. what do we have here?
that s a letter of george washington to the people of philadelphia. philadelphia had been occupied by the british and he s congratulating them they re now a free people. that s 120 thousand. how does a letter like that get away from the washington collection? in many cases they re written to private individuals. if somebody writes you a letter, you own it. right here? a document of john hancock signed around june-july 1776. it looks exactly like his sigma tour on the declaration of independence. it is a foundation document of the navy. he s appointing somebody who would be one of the first naval officers. he s got great penmanship. right here is the letter we re discussing. lincoln gives his cooper union address. it changes everything for him. he becomes a national figure. this letter is indicative of what? this captures a moment in lincoln s life where he went from being a regional politician to being a national figure. it shows him struggling with that emergence.
he wasn t from the east coast. he comes out to the east coast and all of a sudden he s inundated by requests to speak. people want his time, his attention. he misses his family, his sons are sick, he wants to return home. and he feels nervous. you don t think of abraham lincoln feeling nervous but in this he confesses i m nervous, i feel unfit to fulfill my obligations. this is 40 thousand dollars? that s right. where do we go to bid. not to bid to buy, rabbcollection.com. how do you decide who gets it? whoever calls and buys it. first-come, first served. our customers are private and public. public institutions buy these things. private institutions like universities buy them. sometimes private collectors buy them. awesome. nathan rabb, thanks so much for bringing these here. great to be a part of history. hopefully somebody out there will be buying these today. heather, what else going on?
news to bring you now. police are hoping some new surveillance video will lead them to a possible break through in the case of a missing oregon mother of it would young children. jennifer huston disappeared last thursday while she was running errands. the tape which hasn t been made public yet shows her withdrawing cash from a local bank before she heads to a gas station. her cell phone was then turned off shortly thereafter. i was getting through the financial institutions cell phone video, that type of stuff. we contacted several businesses not to mention other cameras that we know of based on our routine days of patrol. hus top s family is offering a reward for her safe return. fury in northern california after a guy flew a drone over a raging wildfire to try to get video of it and he nearly blocked the plane s relief efforts to put out that fire. officials not issuing him a ticket but they did issue a
no-fly zone to civilians to avoid endangering any more fire fighting planes. this is a fire east of sacramento. it is now 75% contained, just under six square miles have burned so far. dating the traditional way can sometimes be tough. everybody knows that. hello? yes. i m with him right now. no, not very attractive. doesn t make much money. it appears that on-line dating cannot be trusted at all either. one of the most popular dating sites called okay cupid has been conducting this crazy psychological experiment on users without them knowing about it. the website s cofounder says users photos and bios were changed and removed in the name of science they say. the site even told people they were a good match for one another when in reality they were terrible for one another. and those are your
headlines. i think that is not okay, cupid. who are you calling cupid? thanks, heather. meanwhile, 23 minutes before the top of the hour. destruction in the suburbs of boston, massachusetts, after a rare and powerful twister touched down. more than 100 homes were damaged. look at this. we re talking about massachusetts. maria molina joins us live with details. maria, they haven t seen something like this there since 1950. incredible images coming out of that region. that is in massachusetts just outside the city of boston. that twister was confirmed as an ef-2 with winds of up to 120 miles per hour. that was early yesterday morning making it even more unusual because it s not only a little unusual for this time of the year, typically this happens during the springtime when you start to talk about tornadoes and that type of severe weather, but it s a little unusual in july and also it happened between 9:30 a.m. and 10:00 a.m.
so very early in the morning for that type of weather. behind that storm system we do have much cooler air that s moved in. we have very chilly temperatures early this morning with them currently in the 50 s in places like pittsburgh and buffalo. 70 s in places like new york city and cleveland. very cool for the month of july. farther west we have a number of flood advisories in effect, flood watches expected from the central plains to parts of nevada. that is due to heavy rain that is in the forecast. let s head back inside. maria molina with the latest, thank you. our hearts go out to families there in massachusetts. it s a whale of a tale. nearly 160 tourists forced to stay in a boat overnight after getting stranded by about 60 miles from the boston harbor. more on what happened yesterday. jessica, good morning to you. reporter: good morning. we just got word in the past hour that that boat
was successful in getting untangled from the line it got stuck on this morning. 157 people on board are on their way back to boston and are scheduled to get in here about 7:30 this morning. the boat left here around 1:30 yesterday afternoon wand was supposed to get back here after about three hours. of course we know that did not end up happening. it got stuck 14 miles off the coast of salem, massachusetts, with 157 people on bored. the boat they are on is called the satacia, a whale watching boat. divers yesterday made an attempt to untangle the boat with hand cutting tools but were unsuccessful. a commercial dive team went out this morning and they able to get the boat freed from the line that it got stuck on. again, we know that boat is free. those people, 157 passengers on board, they re going to be getting back to boston in about an hour from now. we know they re safe and secure and we ll be hearing
from them in a little bit. for now, back to you, brian. thanks so much. now you know the rest of the story. now let s talk about sports. donald sterling is out. steve balmer is in. a los angeles court is ruling against sterling s attempt to block the sale. after the ruling his wife says she expects him to drop suits against her and the league. the deal is expected to be finalized by august 15 meaning players and coaches don t have to be affected. a dad catches a foul ball and his son is overcome with joy, goes in for the big hug. a souvenir to take home, one we will not forget. we taped it and provide a copy to the entire family. as you see, they bought up the entire section. big crowd. what a shot. that the cool thing
about being out of it. these fans are in a league of their own. the team s so bad they have to put robots in the stands. how great is that. that is a little kooky. the new york times pushing pot calling it safer than alcohol. our next guest claims explains why this claim is seriously outdayed. the new york city times published an editorial to legal marijuana. they don t care about weed. it is the only way they can keep selling paper. you don t have to read it.
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researchers find the search engine can spot crashes before they happen. analysts looked at business searches between 2004 and 2012 and found spikes right before drops in the stock market. so there. the south korean baseball team so bad they used robots to fill empty seats. fans can project their face on to a robot from the comfort of their own home even using it to hold up signs to cheer. the hanwha eagles lost 400 games in the last five years so they need fans even if they are virtual. elisabeth, over to you. i m a fan of yours, steve. drugs are safer than alcohol? that s according to the new york times. the newspaper s editorial board pushing to legalize pot. our next guest calls this belief seriously outdated and claims legalizing pot will cause a health catastrophe worse than we can imagine. joining us is david murray. he worked in the national
drug control policy office under president george w. bush. thanks for being with us. how irresponsible is it for the new york times editorial board to put forward the theory that pot is no more dangerous than alcohol. you have to wonder what were they thinking? don t they read their own newspaper? the information is stunningly careless of them. it is negligent. it s scientifically unsound what they have said. they re taking a risk here with a serious substance and they seem to be caught in some sort of time warp of the culture. cheech and chong and hilarious hippies. they even invoke reefer madness. that was 80 years ago. today s more potent t.h.c. pot that is affecting kids in america is a serious risk. it is much more potent, much more consequential and it is industrial pot. if you look at where this is actually happening since january in colorado where they legalized recreational marijuana it is a debacle. they re having serious problems with their youth.
this is industrial dope being put out at hypoten is i and it s having hypotency and is having negative affects. this morning i passed by the open door shelter and haven for women. the clean and sober people who are trying to keep themselves in treatment away from dope, away from the narcotics and their effects, they are profoundly affected when dope becomes widely accessible, widely available, normalatively accepted. most importantly it is the new generation. young children 12, 13 years of age have developing brains, t.h.c. in marijuana is a neurotoxin. it costs them eight i.q. points if they smoke heavily through their lives. it puts them at risk of psychological trauma of depression, hallucination. it is a serious drug with
serious consequences. if you missed the last ten years of biomedical reporting and neuroimaging on what this drug does to the developing brain then you might come out where the new york times has come out. they must have been asleep at the switch for the last ten years because they ve taken a seriously irresponsible posture. david, that is a strong position. we want to thank you for being with us. i m just trying to figure out why high fructose corn syrup is so bad and pot is okay according to this article. david, thank you for joining us. appreciate your insight. coming up, she left her kids in a hot car to go on a job interview. all charges were dropped but now she s trying to get her kids back. does she deserve a second chance? that mom here with us live next. then president obama is ignoring congress again, this time to change his signature achievement obamacare we re talking about and it will cost taxpayers millions. judge napolitano is here with that next.
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this is not a rerun. president obama is once again ignoring congress and this time he s going to expand obamacare. the administration proposing to give thousands of temporary federal workers access to obamacare even though obamacare explicitly prohibited them from getting it. lawmakers are already suing the president for his improper implementation of the affordable care act, so is this just the latest offense to add to the list? he s shaking his head. judicial analyst judge
napolitano joins us live. we should reveal that in a commercial break before the camera came on, i looked at you and said, here we go again. you did. it s like a couple times a week these things happen. the congress was crystal clear. in order to get the number of votes they needed for this to pass, it was agreed, temporary, seasonal, part-time workers don t apply. yesterday the obama administration announced that today it s going to issue an administrative regulation that says, if you are a temporary or seasonal or part-time worker, and you think you might some day become full time, obamacare applies for you. this is for federal employees. guess who picks up the tab? you do. put the tab up. the taxpayer does. we ve got the tab. we re talking about maybe a little north of 2 million federal employees, cost 8400 a year per person. so it looks like it could be up to $350 million. where is that money coming from?
from the taxpayer. of course we re broke, so they print more, which complicates this year. this is yet another violation of the constitution. why? because the constitution is very clear. no money may be spent by the federal government except that which is appropriated by the congress. not by the president. by the congress! we have the president yet again changing the rules, changing the meaning of the rules, changing the right of way and spending money that was never authorized by the congress. you know what it looks like? it looks like they re just making it up as they go because and you were talk being this during the commercial the president essentially has given up. it does appear part of my job here is to watch this stuff. and analyze it. it comes in in droves. it appears as though he has given up his constitutional role as president and has now taken on the role of ideologue in chief to change whatever laws he
can by whatever means he can in the two years he has remaining, the constitution be damned. he may have some interesting ideas, but the congress writes the law and the congress spends the money. not the president. all right. judge napolitano now i m going to go have some espresso. where is chris? thank you, judge. coming up, it s one of the most beloved children s programs on television. look at that right there. who doesn t love thomas the tank engine. apparently he and his friends are racist! what? yeah. wait til we go off the rails with that. even without words, your body language can say a whole lot more. hi. nice to meet you. nice to meet you. don t do that. how is your handshake. what not to do if you want a job, coming up.
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good morning. today is tuesday, july 29. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. we start with a fox news alert. people across the country are waking up to devastation this morning. they all broke! massive tornadoes wreaking havoc from coast to coast. then president obama using that pen again perhaps, ready to announce amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants ahead of the midterm elections. lawmakers are not buying it. why they say this is sending the wrong message to the rest of the world and they re not going to take it anymore. and does this children s television show look racist to you? it s thomas.
hello, thomas. hello, everybody. why one blogger says thomas the tank engine is making your toddler racist. not kidding. stay tuned. you re watching fox & friends. that s a great way to begin your day. i never got into thomas the tank. but i never saw the potential backlash in the cartoon. there is passion behind thomas. all my kids grew up on it. how did they come out? they ve come out okay so far. right. i haven t concluded things yet. based on that, one could recommend thomas the train. if you re a fan of thomas the tank engine, wait until you hear what somebody sees in that innocent little tv show. we re going to get that to you in just a minute. time to go back to maybe
speed racer? electric company, mickey mouse. two minutes after the top of the hour. right to a fox news alert. israeli missiles strike nearly 70 targets, including gaza s only power plant. john huddy is watching it all from the israeli-gaza border. john, so very big night last night for the israelis in terms of hitting targets. absolutely, it was, brian. good morning to you. we ve been hearing artillery fire throughout the day from our location and seeing strikes in the distance behind me in gaza which has seen a lot of activity over the past 22 days. as you mentioned, there was a watt of activity overnight. there was an artillery strike on the gaza strip s largest power plant, a shell hit one of the fuel tanks that powers that power plant, erupting into an inferno. we re not sure how many people
are without power at this point. but you can expect probably a significant amount at this point. this as you mentioned, as the fighting raged on. israel s main objective throughout the 22 days has been to take out, destroy hamas military infrastructure, in particular the cross border network of tunnels. yesterday we saw several israeli troops killed after hamas militants ambushed them, bringing the total number of israeli soldiers that have been killed up to 53. ten have been killed overnight, including several yesterday by mortar fire along the border as well. and also on the other side in gaza, about 40 people were killed since midnight, bringing that total up to more than 1100 and more than at this point, probably close to 6300 wound. although that number continues to change by the day, even by the hour. there is movement in terms of possible cease fire talks. we hear palestinian and even
hamas representatives may be going or on the ground in cairo trying to work out an egyptian-brokered agreement, something israel has been willing to accept with the stipulation it continues the objective of destroying hamas military infrastructure. so that said, despite the uncertainty, perhaps something is in the works. this as you can see in the dance perhaps, the smoke continues to rise in gaza. brian, elisabeth, steve, back to you. thank you very much. last night benjamin netanyahu addressed the israeli people saying get ready for a long war. the two days ago, the big story was secretary of state john kerry digging in saying i got a great idea of how to get a cease fire. the israelis say you got to be kidding me. even a liberal newspaper in israel said john kerry is really no help here. there is nonstop criticism of kerry s attempts to bring in particularly turkey, who has been seen as defenders of hamas before. kerry was also accused by
israeli news of abandoning some of israel s key demands during negotiations, and one went as far as saying the plan kerry put out was a, quote, strategic terrorist. yeah. he is the first secretary of state in 20 years to fail at brokering a cease fire. it is embarrassing. none the less, the obama administration has got to prop up and spin this some way, so they re all out defending mr. kerry. watch this. our view is it s simply not the way that partners and allies treat each other. the reality is that john kerry, on behalf of the united states, has been working every step of the way with israel in support of our shared interest. israel has no better friend, no stronger defender. he has been tireless in his efforts and i think that israel
and many countries and friends around the world recognize exactly that. john kerry s error was he put so much emphasis on a quick halt, he solidified the role of hamas to the exclusion where he undercut the egyptians and israelis and the fatah movement which is trying to end hamas rule in gaza. this was a big mistake. dave ignatius wrote about that in the washington post and his connections to the middle east are without pier. brit hume went off on bill o reilly s show. i think obama shares instinctively the sentiment and academic left, which favors israel s palestinian neighbors i guess where his instincts are. but the reason you don t see big public dustups between israeli leaders and any american president is it s terrible politics on both sides. israel depends heavily on its alliance with america for its security and its safety and israel is very popular in the u.s. congress and in the country
as a whole. surely. that s pretty much where you stand right now. that s why israel says we have got to finish the job in there and if you re going to leave the terror tunnels out, and leave them armed, we re going to be back in the same place. on a different note, one of the things you care about, immigration. as this week the clock is ticking as congress sets to take recessment the president set to take his p pen and announcing that executive amnesty may come into play. meaning amnesty for those crossing into the border, those have come on expired visas or illegally, as well as work permits for millions that have entered this nation, rattling the hearts and minds of the work force of americans coming forward and certainly those in congress who think this is quite unlawful. sure. so essentially with this would be is it would be executive amnesty and there are different versions of what the president and his men and women are proposing. it could be amnesty for the
parents of legal u.s. citizens. it could also be amnesty for the parents of the dreamers. so it could total 5 million or both. we don t know at this point. they ve got a bunch of trial balloons out there and see which ones work and which ones blow up on them. look for something to happen shortly. cause the senate passed an immigration reform bill. the house did not. they do not believe the president is going to reinforce the border, so they see no point in coming up with a plan because that ultimately is an executive decision. so now the president is going to do this, almost baiting congress, believe it or not, to try to impeach him. the democratic mantra is look, the president is going to get impeached. taking an oath to abide by the law and uphold the law of this nation while at the same time violating it if he does take executive action. brian, to your point about impeachment, only democrats are talking about it. republicans, conservative, not
talking about it. only democrats. it s to gin up the base before november. time for some weather and we start with heather. boston? tornado? totally crazy. tornadoes in boston. we begin with this. a rare tornado barreling through a massachusetts suburb, just five miles outside of boston. take a look. look at the trees! that twister packing winds of up to 120 miles an hour, ripping a path of destruction. nearly two miles long. take a look at this car. totally flipped over on the sidewalk there. and then you can see the roof torn off buildings from above. the national weather service says this is the first twister to hit this area since they started keeping records back in 1950. but then also crazy weather out west. at least three tornadoes touching down in the denver area. one of them caught on camera near the airport. no reports of any major damage there.
in this ultimate story of survival, overnight rescue crews finding a 13-year-old boy. he is alive in a central california national park this morning. king s canyon national park. austin shed went missing on sunday. he was hiking with his dad and a family friend. he disappeared when they stopped for lunch after an eight-hour walk. austin will be air lifted out of the park later this morning. exact details on his condition have not been released just yet. it is just a plane ride away. health dishes are scrambling to try to track people overseas who may have come in contact with that deadly ebola virus. an infected man boarded a plane in liberia last week and traveled across west africa. he died from that virus on friday. ebola is spread by close contact. it has an incubation period of up to 21 days. those infected may not notice symptoms for weeks. it s possible, this is a
plane ride away. we don t know when people come in what they have. any virus could be ebola. there are international airports in some of those countries where it has spread. two american health workers treating ebola have become infected. being a country music star pays off pretty darn well. forbes ranking kenny chesney as the third highest paid country crooner. he earned $44 million last year. number two is taylor swift with $64 million. and the highest paid country singer is this guy. he s just made in america that is toby keith raking in $65 million annually. thanks to his albums, restaurants, and also his endorsement deals. he has a big chain of popular restaurants. sure, toby keith is watching right now, we would salute you with our red solo cup.
right. which we did in this studio. we sang along to it. from red solo cups to thomas the tank engine, the blue tank engine, it turns out there is a blogger in great britain, tracy van slike writes in the guardian, the thomas the tank engine is racist, it s sexist. it s classless. i ve been saying this for years. this is a quote, if you look through the steam rising up from the coal-powered train stack, you realize that the pretty puffs of smoke are containing twisted messages. when the good engines pump out white smoke and the bad engines are pumping out black smoke. he goes on to say that the train is for little white boys, sparking out demands like a controlling auto crat. how many kids looked at that and said that s a controlling autocrat. it has a global audience. they try to create characters people can relate to.
across the world, kids are watching this. i don t recall this being raised before as an issue. what do you guys think? were you scared, miffed? if anything, there is an obesity problem with him. but does she call him out? no. rosy is one of the trains there. i have a daughter, she never never complained? i met her, she didn t seem to have any problems adjusting. we have the whole article on www.foxandfriends.com. we wanted you to respond on our facebook page and you can read the article and get some background. are you one of the many outraged? troubled by thomas. coming up, the democrat and republican who agree on at least one thing. we should not have traded terrorists for bowe bergdahl. the two lawmakers with the message for the president, they re standing by live in dc next. and meet the happy seniors
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an explosion. what can you tell us? reporter: well, just probably about a minute and a half ago, there was either a rocket or mortar launch that came right over our heads and landed in let me get out of the way. you can see the smoke. landed right there, right across the street from a road and also a neighborhood, large neighborhood. you could hear this thing. coming right over us. it came in and landed, hit hard. people are now you see some cars there, they re getting saw some people running out of there. this is how close we are to the border. we re obviously on the israeli side burks in the distance, we ve been showing you gaza that as i mentioned earlier, has been taking a lot of artillery strikes and even just moments ago before i went live there, we heard a series of artillery fire. this, again, was very close to us. it reminds me of when i was in gaza and the missile strikes that were coming right over our heads as well on presumably
hamas locations. but now this one was definitely targeting civilian locations. this gives you a pretty good example of what israelis have to deal with and throughout the course of the last 22 days of operation protective edge, how this impacts people in the area and also how it s hit a number of locations. pretty close. very close to us. we re all getting down on the ground almost. i see you have your helmet on. just to be clear, this came from the hamas side into the israeli side. you mentioned 70 targets the israelis hit. but hamas is shooting back. reporter: yeah, absolutely. i don t have the exact number so far of rocket launches. let me put it this way. we ve seen throughout the morning rockets being fired from gaza. in fact, this morning in a city north of this strip where we re staying, we were woken up by the sound of the code red signal
warning about an impending rocket coming over. this amp right before we left as well there was a rocket that was intercepted by israel s iron dome defense system. so this one, whether it was a rocket it sounded like to me a rocket, could have been a mortar as well. it landed very, very close to our location. all right. john huddy, thanks so much. we ll check in again throughout the three-hour show. meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, she left her kids in a hot car to go to a job interview. all charges were dropped. now she s trying to get her kids back. does she deserve a second chance? that mom here live. and say it ain t so. red lobster getting fancy. no more discount deals? what about bibs? vo: this is the summer.
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brian, over to you. congress set to adjourn for a five-week recess without an immigration deal. but one democrat and republican can agree on at least one thing. we should not have tried traded terrorists for bowe bergdahl a couple months ago. those congressmen join us now, john barrow, a democrat from georgia, and scott rijola republican from virginia. what brought you guys together. what bothered you about this deal? brian, the facts are not in dispute. the president broke the law when he transferred the five senior taliban commanders to the government of qatar. to prevent that from becoming precedent that either he or future administrations could rely upon, we thought it was important to put this legal marker in the ground and to repudiate, condemn clearly what the president did. congressman what, bothers you about the deal, that it was such a bad deal, lop sided for the taliban, or that it we want down
without your permission? both. both. it s not good for national security. mohammed fasul is the deputy minister of defense for the taliban. i m confident and it troubles me to share this, that probably in a year or so, he ll be back on the battlefield when we ll still in all likelihood have american forces in afghanistan. so this is not that s not wise. and then this balance of powers situation here where the president is consistently going outside of his constitutional lane and ignoring the law. congressman bare barrow, they re supposed to tell you 30 days ahead of the deal. how does the law real? scott and i were concerned and objected to the whole violation of our long-standing policy, not to negotiate with terrorists. we were concerned about that from the get-go. but the thing that concerns us, the specific subject of this resolution is the failure to
comply with the law that the congress and president agreed to that before there would be any release of detainees from guantanamo bay, there would be a consultation with congress beforehand. checks and balances are important. it s important so both branches can get the best advice from the other when it has shared responsibility and both branches in this case agree on the process to be followed. prior consultation. this is more than a window dressing. there is a whole bunch of at gitmo, they could be out tomorrow without us knowing about it. the president and president bush actually released about 500 detainees from guantanamo bay and did so legally. but in this case, when the secretary of defense came before the house armed services committee on june 11, he really had no answer as to why the administration had like 80 or 90 members of the administration that were aware of this, but not one member of congress. senator feinstein hammered this and it s more than some check off the box.
there is a series of things that the administration has to give to congress to assure american security is not going in the wrong direction. and that s exactly what happened here. this is a serious matter. i appreciate mr. barrow standing with me in this. it s bipartisan effort. it s not personal to the president. but we ve got to stop what the president is doing. when i go to virginia, people are saying, scott, what are you doing about this t? this is a practical step in responding to the president. guy, thanks so much for coming together, at least on this issue. hard to imagine in gates was in power this would have happened. just my opinion. thanks for your time. thank you. coming up straight ahead, she left her kids in a hot car to go on a job interview. charges were dropped. now she s trying to get her children back. does she deserve a second chance? that mom here live. and frenzy friendy prinze freddy prinze junior
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happy place. am i right? has anyone been there? as long as it s your image, that s all that matters. that reinforces it. it s like the happy move. it s hard, when you hear that song, i think a is one of the best songs of the last couple of years. we were playing it and heather nauert was over there smiling. i want to retire. what s your criteria? you like the beat, but you can t say the lyrics move you. they penetrate your being. no. it s the happy song. but the beat. the words. when you talk about happy, that makes you happy. it s too simple. that s the beauty of the song. as my kindergartener s graduation song. you should see the little five-year-olds walking down. they liked it. did you tape that? yes, i did. we d like to see that. maybe it s not as shared as the 1.2 million views for
happy. you re happy, heather. because she s newsy. all right. i have some news to bring you that will make iraqi christians happy. this is terrific news for them. france is now offering a asylum to iraqi christians who we ve been telling you about have been under serious fire from this isis terrorist there. that terror group has been forcing christians to convert to islam, pay a massive fine that few can afford, or die. most christians forced to leave mosul, iraq s second largest city, with just the clothes on their back. france is saying they will do everything they can to protect those refugees. glad to hear that this morning. the deadlocked jury in the jesse ventura trial is ordered to try again, deliberations are set to resume this morning. it s day six. ventura is suing the estate of the deceased navy seal chris kyle for $15 million. it s all over a story in kyle s best-selling memoir american sniper. he writes about punching out ventura in 2006 after ventura
allegedly said that navy seals deserve to lose a few. ventura was never mentioned by name in that book. but his identity was revealed in later interviews. kyle was killed in a shooting range last year. his wife testified at the trial. a fox news alert to bring you now. that stranded whale watching boat that we told you about earlier today off the coast of boston is now headed back. it was supposed to be a three-hour tour, but it turned into a bit of a nightmare when the boat got stuck in a lobster trap. about 60 miles from the boston harbor. nearly 160 tourists were forced to stay on that boat overnight. you know the actor freddy prinze, junior? he s bashing his 24 co-star, keifer sutherland. thanks for doing this. prinze saying he hated every moment he worked on the hit fox show. he calls sutherland, quote, the most unprofessional dude in the
world. okay. a rep for sutherland release ago statement saying keifer worked with freddy prinze junior more than five years ago and this is the first time he heard of the grievances. we love keifer sutherland here and his show. maybe he s got something to it. keifer madness. i loved his dad in chico and the man. i don t know if that applies here. thanks, heather. moving on, thousands of people picking up the pieces after a rare tornado ripped through the town of revere, massachusetts. maria molina, they haven t seen a tornado around there since the 1950s. that tornado was confirmed as an ef-2, happened yesterday morning between 9:30 in the morning hours and had winds of up to 120 miles per hour. stayed on the ground for two miles. a little unusual there across parts of massachusetts. thankfully no injuries. there were a lot of reports of damage out there. i want to show you now your
current temperatures across portions of the great lakes and northeast. behind that storm system we do have much cooler air that moved in. we re seeing the temperatures in the 50s and 60s across the entire region, feel ago little bit more like fall. not summer. your high temperatures are going to remain below average, into the low 70s at cleveland. 70s in new york. but across the southern plains, still a hot day. 90s and triple digits. 109 for your high temperature in phoenix. out west, across portions of new mexico, colorado, and into nevada, we have flood watches in effect. heavy rain expected today. let s head back inside to elisabeth. thank you. this homeless mom in arizona was arrested for leaving her kids in a hot car so that she could go on a job interview. she claims she couldn t find a baby-sitter. prosecutors recently dropped criminal charges. she s grateful for the second chance. but should she have been given one? here to tell her story is the woman and her attorney. thank you both for being with us
this morning. we hear your story, read it all over the place. can you bring us back to that day in your mindset and heart of why your two little kids at six months and two years, you felt their best option was to stay in the car while you went inside? what happened that day? well, what happened that day was i had scheduled for a sitter to be available for the boys. that sitter was not available at the last moment, based on the time that i had, as well as the gas money that i had available, i didn t have the resources to go to the next nearest baby-sitter, which was about 30 minutes the opposite direction of where i needed to be. so it was just a lack of resources that day. when you look at the statistics, 120 children since 2011 that have died as a result of being in a hot car. in 2014, i think we have 17 kids that have died thus far. your two little babies, some
would say, could have been added to that statistic. you were just given a second chance with criminal charges not being on your record now. means you can get your kids back in your custody. looking back on that day, do you believe that you still did the right thing in the moment? i believe that i made a choice in a desperate situation. i had to choose between either providing for them or caring for them at that moment. and i made the best choice out of a bad set of options. would you do it again? i asked myself that 1,000 times and i keep coming back to the choice, on being able to provide or to care for them. that s a choice that many people are facing today. there are too many people trying to figure out how to keep quality childcare, as well as support the family and maintain all of their all the things they need to do as a family. so it s something that people face every day, unfortunately. the criminal charges were
dropped. benjamin, where does it go legally from here to getting the kids back? basically a couple weeks ago we were able to get the criminal charges dropped. now the next step is to focus on getting the kids back. we have a court date coming up in late august. we re going to go in front of the judge and the court and discuss with the state of arizona and child protective services the fastest way that we can unite miss taylor with her kids permanently. you have a nine-year-old daughter, i know this has to be extraordinarily challenging for her. what was the last thing you told her? the last thing i told her was i explained the situation. mommy made a bad choice and i had to pay the consequences for that. but at the same time, she knows me as a mother. she knows the efforts that i make to take care of the things that she needs. so she s not upset with me. she s just worried about the situation more than anything
else. worried that it will keep her and i separated for an extend amount of time. do you believe you ll get your children back? what do you say to those who say you should not? i believe i ll get them back because i m doing everything and anything possible to get them back. to those that say that i don t deserve them back, i simply ask for that chance to prove myself. we re thankful your boys are okay. our best to your daughter. we want to thank you both for being with us today. a complex situation. thanks. thank you. thank you for having us. coming up, the government issuing a dire warning on the state of religious freedom around the world. but is warning enough? peter johnson, jr. with what the white house is not doing next. and your body language could be telling a different story than your words. so hey, what s you doing? hand check what, not to do if you want to land a job ahead.
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peter johnson, jr. hope it gets good gas mileage. thank you very much. the state department is just issued a grim report on the state of religion and its world wide demise. the report says that in 2013, the quotation goes, the world witnessed the largest displacement of religious communities in recent memory. so what are the reports recommendations and how can we improve on the situation? it didn t really say. here with what the administration is not doing to improve faith abroad, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. good morning. so what the state department did was issue a failing report card without any prescription for improving the grade. let s talk about some of the things that they focused on. syria. once had a christian population of 160,000. now down to 1,000 people. 160,000 to 1,000. then in nigeria, they focused on boko haram, killing more than 1,000 people and over 10,000
people have fled. we know what happened to those young girls and those students in nigeria because of boko haram. so then they focused on the european union. this is really interesting. a survey among jewish people in the eight-member states found as many as 48%, almost half have considered emigrating because of anti-semitism. finally, among the findings, in egypt, attacks on christians, in one week alone in august of last year totaled at least 42 churches, in addition to schools, orphanages and other christian facilities. so they ve done this wide array of problems around the world in terms of persecution and discrimination. and then they ve come up with their prescription to combat this. it s really staggering. i say that in a sarcastic way. they say, speak truth to power. use this report to defend religious freedom. perhaps you ball it up. then utilize programs, speeches
and statements and say, there is some moral persuasion. peter, 75% of the people across the globe live in countries that do not respect religion. and that s what they come up with? that s what they come up with and focused on certain countries. we touched on a few of them. there is something called the u.s. commission on international religious freedom, steve. they said in the past year that egypt, iraq, nigeria, pakistan, syria, and vietnam should be listed as countries of particular concern. we have nine. we pick out nine. just nine in the world to say these are countries that we have a problem with. they include burma, china, iran, saudi arabia, amongst others. but egypt, iraq, nigeria, pakistan, syria, vietnam, and we talked about a few of those, what s happening in syria, what s happening in nigeria, what s happening in egypt.
no, they haven t been listed. john kerry pointed to the problem in his own report. he says, i want to emphasize this effort is not about naming countries to list in order to make us feel somehow we ve spoken the truth. i want our countries of particular concern designation to be plans to help change the reality on the ground and help people. the problem is they haven t named many of the countries that should be on that list! with regard to the countries that are on that list, this report really points to nothing tangible, concrete, substantive and effective to stem the tide of discrimination in the world against religions. especially judaism and christianity. the report is pitiful. waste of time. waste of time. peter johnson, jr. bringing that to our attention. thank you very much. coming up, even without words, your body language can say a whole lot more.
so hey, what you doing? isn t he handy? cheryl casone is here with what not to do if you want to land a job. a no-no. first on this date in 1983, the police had the number one song in america. you know the words. every smile you fake i ll be watching you every move you make every step you take i ll be watching you
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could be sabotaging your own success. tell us more. have you ever had a co-worker that was just a little too handsy? brian! no, i haven t. okay. me neither. here is an example. so hey, rachel, what you doing? not everybody is comfortable being touched in the office. you got to be careful about touching your co-workers. he could have come across a little inappropriate. he could have come across a little too hands. she s like hr. a little too close in everything. some people like to hug you and you re like, oh, that s not good. the other thing is, a lot of times i do want you to look me in the eye. take a look at this. brian, how do you think the show has been going? i think it s been going really well for elisabeth and steve. are you happy with how you re doing? they re all right, i guess. i like what i do.
please tell me you were acting. i m much more professional than keifer sutherland. sometimes it s better to make before the accident eye contact with your co- co-workers. if you weren t looking me in the eye, i m wondering what s going on. the handshake is very important. sometimes it s a good time to get a grip. hi, cheryl casone. nice to meet you. nice to meet you. maybe they don t like germs. we call that the dead fish handshake. women are really actually the worst when it comes to a weak handshake at work. ladies, just go in, give the strong handshake. what about a fist bump? a fist bump, that kind of comes across as you re a bit of a bully. really? never mind. you don t want to have a too strong of a handshake.
i m not supposed to do that. take a look. okay, so rachel, i need you to go to the production meeting for me today and i need you to take really careful notes. are you getting all of this? that was subtle. what was the message there? either she wasn t listening to what i was saying or she didn t understand a word i was saying. i m not really sure. you may not realize you re giving the impression you think when you re tilting your head that you re actually listening, engaging the person. you re not. you re giving a bad impression to that person. good note. great tips on the body language. hug it out, everybody. fox news alert, it was supposed to be a three-hour tour, but it turned into a nightmare. a whale watching boat stranded at sea has just returned to the docks. live from boston we go. remember this girl? the football sensation who dominated the boys. sam gordon is heading back to
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good morning. today is tuesday, july 29. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. it is tuesday july 29th. i m elizabeth hasselbeck. fox news alert, breaking news on the boat for ended at c overnight. 100 towards on board just made it back to the dock. president obama ready to pick up the pen. the plan, and instantly grant amnesty for millions of illegals ahead of the midterm elections. one candidate for congress and the message to the white house that can t be ignored. where did they think electricity comes from? i will make sure president obama gets the message.
great commercial. did we mention she is a democrat? this morning we re bragging a little bit. she is joining us live because according to wall statistics, mornings are better with friends. i am freddie prince jr. 24, you are watching fox and friends. thank you. the news in the entertainment world, freddie prince jr. says kiefer sutherland who he worked with five years ago on 24 just the worst actor he ever worked with. and professional do. game delay on the comment. 24 is now back. we have to follow that story because it looks like there s a rift he will have trouble feeling. he is not on the show anymore. didn t 24 come back? they are now in london. only five years ago.
i am still in first season. right by the side with a lot going on. they have their season finale so it is over. i was watching seinfeld. some news to bring you, we talked about this earlier this morning. the stranded whale watching boat has now returned back home. it was supposed to be a three hours tour but it turned into a nightmare. 15 hours long. the boat s prop got stuck in a lobster trap 60 miles from boston s harbor. 160 tourists were forced to stay on the boat overnight. the company is apologizing saying they will refund passengers for the trip. on the west coast police hope new surveillance video will lead them to a break in the case of a missing or again mom. jennifer disappeared last thursday when she was out
running errands. this new tape which hasn t been made public yet apparently shows her with trying cash from a local bank before heading to a gas station. herself and was turned off shortly thereafter. family is now offering a reward for her safe return. she has two young children. an alert now, a tornado barrows throw massachusetts suburbs five miles outside of boston. all broke. that twister packing winds of 120 miles per hour ripping a path of destruction two miles long. we rarely hear about this on the east coast so some pretty big news. look at this car, totally flipped over on the sidewalk and from above ec these roofs torn off the buildings. the national weather service saying this is the first wister to hit that area since they started keeping records in 1950. crazy weather out west, three
tornadoes touching down in the denver area. one of them caught on camera near the airport, no reports of any major damages. he has played golf 81 times since 2012 but all those rounds may not be helping his game. a golfer playing the congressional country club in maryland on sunday claims to have found his ball in the woods somewhere. he posted the picture, the president played the congressional yesterday and found this in the woods. full number 1. looks like he is off line again. that is the problem with gulf. no correlation between a lot of practice and being good. back there, very good. good at what? we know that the president has a phone and japan and the putter. apparently he will use his pen to essentially come up with executive amnesty.
according to a number of papers white house is going to use through executive amnesty action oil. they would issue work permitss to millions of illegals in the country with no threat of deportation. could be to the parents of legal u.s. citizens, the parents of a dreamer kids, nonetheless it could be five, six, seven, 8 million illegals could be impacted before the midterm is. the border crisis and this turning into a constitutional crisis as lawmakers on the hills stand up and say jeff sessions, one of the talk a lot yesterday about what is going on here. how is this protecting americans when we have a president working against the law. our laws say this is not possible. are we protecting american workers including legal immigrants? he pointed out again working people all over america would not be helped. african-americans would not be helped by this executive order for amnesty and work permits.
the cbo office says this is a mass amnesties that would cause america wages, wages fall for a decade. if we are worried about it being misinterpreted this new amnesty thing, remember the dream backed the president to get this if you are here and you are brought here as a kid you are now don t have to fear deportation. that message is essential and south america next thing you know thousands of kids coming to our borders thinking all i have to do is show up in darkens a year. the parents of kids that were born here now say i am here illegally but maybe the president will let me in. that will be misinterpreted too in the south to only exacerbate things but it might be a good thing to do before the midterm elections if you want to maximize the hispanic vote for some. see if he actually decides to do that. meanwhile there was a protest at the white house. turns out most people, the protesters were illegals who want their voice heard when it
comes to immigration reform so they had no fear coming out in front of 1600 pennsylvania avenue and will come back again. that is extraordinary to have that many people without keep in mind around the white house that bubble is one of the most secure areas in the world yet you have all these people without any sort of documentation who are protesting and to your point you are right, eyes agents told fox news absolutely no fear of deportation. for instance if somebody got arrested they look at their background but unless they have got some really hideous serious criminal record they would let from go. there should be no compromise when it comes to the law, just followed. national board patrol is still working, those in charge of the law putting it forward are about to set vacation as of the end of this week. heard from national border patrol council, who said we are not going on break. congress may be but we have work
to do. this is a big crisis. border patrol agents we will be on duty, we don t wake five weeks off, we will doing our jobs and that includes rescuing people especially kids who don t know survival skills. what we heard is he is talking about border patrol agents before the 7-10 border patrol agents not guarding the border because they are babysitting. last week we talked to the border patrol at the border and ice agents in charge of returning the. we had one agent on last week who said he essentially they are not being given any assignment. so they go ahead and stop some people but because they are not being given the assignment of returning from that is the message, they can stay, as long as you one. the big picture people looking at the present and the midterm elections, 98 days away. wondering how the president is doing in his confidence which was so strong in 2008 according
to the polls, so much smarter and more astute and more grounded now has reversed. obama is faltering badly on the confidence question and in doing so in periling his ability not only to a and actor second term agenda but democrats chances this fall. a series of events in the ongoing border crisis and the situation in ukraine, the nsa spying program badly undermined the idea that obama can effectively manage the government. two said of independents saying obama is not an effective manager. considering the washington post is a lefty newspaper and one of the columnists saying barack obama is box office poison for his party and we were telling you about the columnist who said the president essentially has this was for the daily collar and the
telegraph, the president has already checked out of the job, phoning it in, sleepwalking through his second term and is ready for an early departure. maybe that is his opinion but keep in mind he is running the country. how does that impact all of us. that is not good. not a positive thing. the president might be checked out but does not want to lose the senate so look to push the idea the republicans want to in peach him. wherever you go leadership, democratic leadership, there are e-mails saying republicans are trying to impeach me, look out to try to rally his base. when it comes to romneycare, the pending executive order as released amnesty and work papers, now we will maybe perhaps in more of a crisis when it comes to employment. millions more are granted the right to work. the president wants to do well in the midterm elections or his party does the immigration at least be in charge, the israeli gaza situation, there s a end in sight.
solve the situation in iraq, make a decision. all these issues would restore the president s confidence ratings. i don t know. it could be a little weight on some of that stuff. kind of baked into the cake. is he out of time? we are out of time for this segment. for mother who left her kids and a hot car once a second chance, does she deserve it. hear her case. one candidate for congress and in a message to the white house they cannot ignore. where did they think their electricity comes from? i will make sure president obama gets the message. did we mention she is a democrat? she is joining us live in our studio next. keep her away from our light switch. staples for back to school.
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and i ll stand up to leaders of oath parties who threaten our way of life. i ll make sure president obama gets the message. where is that light switch? natalie tenant wants to be the next senator from west virginia. she s currently secretary of state. welcome. what s behind the ad? thank you for having me here. thank you for having me here. virginia coal miners. it s sending a message. this isn t about you re talking about democrat. but this isn t a democrat or republican. this is about west virginia and whether the president wants to recognize it or not, coal still produces 40% of the electricity for this country. it fuels west virginia. and senator manchin on here before. i reference him, too. that we work together for our west virginia coal miners to make sure that we have jobs, cause when we talk about west virginia coal miners, it is
families, it is mortgages that they re trying to pay. we re getting ready to go back to school and they re trying to send their children back to school. we see the lights go out in the white house. so what is president obama getting wrong? how would his actions affect west virginia? these regulations are attacking our coal jobs and what we re asking and what i m asking is don t attack our coal jobs with regulations that are unrealistic and unattainable. work with us because if you invest in west virginia, we will deliver for you, advance coal technologies that yes, can cut emissions and save jobs at the use that investment. but you know, there are a lot of people who go, we got to get rid of the dirty coal or all the coal. those people don t realize that when they plug in their electric car in the garage, they re they plug in their electric car in the garage they re planning into a coal plant. you see that here. where do you think your where do you think your so people look at you, you re in a pretty much red state. people with you, you are a
red state. i dispute that. we have a 2-1 registration advantage for democrats. ten of our 13 statewide elected officials are democrats, house and senate are democrats. joe mansion is close to a moderate democrat in the senate. judging by his track record and what he has been like here do you think it is to your advantage to appear with senator warren of massachusetts who is known as the liberals s liberal? when i look at senator warren and together we know we don t agree on everything and don t agree on everything and don t we agree on making sure our students have the ability to middle-class, we agree on making sure our students have the ability to have an affordable college education and that they be indented with student loans. we also agree on taking care of coal miners. introduced with senator rockefeller that i will continue the bankruptcy fairness law where many retirees coal miners ended up on the wrong side of
bankruptcy. redistribution of wealth is something also. with is all about opportunity and the middle-class. this is equal pay for equal work. work. of course, right now your new ad, you re standing up to the white house. don t pull the plug on coal. but your opponent, shelly moore capito, sent this picture saying this is proof that you re a flip flopper because there you are back in 2008 and you are campaigning for the now president of the united states. are you a flip flopper? first of all, west virginiaians know me. they know i stand up for west virginia. example, when officials in 2010 tried to steal an election, i led the investigation that put them behind federal prison. that shows that i stand up for west virginia first regardless of party, regardless of position. would you hold that sign again today? when we talk about this you look at it, yes, i did campaign for the president in 2008. i am disappointed and i m hurt
with the way he is reacting to west virginia and the perfect example is today, the epa is having a hearing about these regulations. and on tuesday, they re in d.c today they re in pittsburgh. we asked mccarthy to come to west virginia, hear from people who are going to be impacted, their livelihood. do you know where they re going thursday? pittsburgh. 20 miles away from west virginia. would you hold that sign today? i didn t hold the sign. would you be there right now? i m not sure. he s not on the ballot. that s what is about this election. you re not sure if you would vote for president obama. this is about me and capito cause i don t answer to the president. thank you for dropping by. we ll have your opponent on this thank you for dropping by. we will add your opponent on this program tomorrow. keep your lights on. 20 minutes after the hour. coming up, does this look racists to you?
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time for quick international headlines. fox news alert. four israeli soldiers are dead. hamas militants firing at a tank they were riding in through gaza. this comes after a night of missile attacks from israel hitting the house of a hamas leader and gaza s only power hitting the house of a hamas hitting the house of a hamas 24-hour cease fire, saying hamas agreed to the temporary peace. the politically powerful cousin of afghan president karzai was killed by a suicide bomber on tuesday. the attacker, who hid the explosives in his head gear, has
allowed into his house as a guest. the attack is a major blow to the country s ruling family. elisabeth? thanks. who could forget this little girl? yes, i said girl. two years ago nine-year-old sam gordon became an internet sensation barreling through all the boys in her tackle league, and barely breaking a sweat. more than 2 million people watched our highlight reel and some said she was a shoe in for the nfl. then she said she put down the pig skin and focused on soccer instead. many thought it was a mistake. but this morning it appears sam might be having a change of heart. i m going to football camp at the university of michigan. they divides us up into our position groups and i chose runningback. they taught us how to hold the ball right and did drills. i wanted to impress the coach. so i ran my hardest. today we ran the 40-yard dash. the rumor going around camp is that i ran it in 4.9 seconds.
i m not that fast. i think you re pretty fast. football sensation sam gordon joins me now. good morning. hi. well done. i love watching those highlight reels. so you re back to football. what was camp like? it was really fun. i loved going. oh, my gosh. you look pretty fast. you don t think you ran that fast, 4.9? no, i don t think i can run that fast. maybe almost. you played a lot of football there. you ran some drills and you mentioned devon garden. we want to let everyone watch this. i thought it was really cool when i got to meet quarterback devon gardner. he even asked to join our game. he made a perfect pass to me when i was all alone and i dropped it. i definitely need to spend more time with the receivers. so what did you feel when that happened? tell us. i felt like really embarrassed cause i just
dropped a perfect pass made by devon gardner. i bet he was impressed with your skills overall. i d take that pressure off yourself. no more soccer? all football? what s your plan? my coach said my soccer coach said that i can miss a few practices to go to football. she says that football made me see the field really well. so it s a good thing i m doing it. so you believe then, too, that football is good for soccer? yes. now, brian kilmeade and i can finally get along that you said that. i want you to realize. it is impressive. what s your advice to kids out there who just want to give it a try in a sport where it might not seem possible? it s really fun for football. i don t know. i have to think about that. you know what? my husband, tim, he played a lot of football, completely impressed with your film there and your skills. you re quick.
have fun. let us know your next steps okay? all right. i think you ran a 4.9. thanks. we ll see you soon. coming up, the mom who left her kids in a hot car during a job interview wants a second chance. does she deserve it? hear her case so you can decide. and can you tell the difference? one ring is real. the other is fake and they re sold at major department stores. did you get duped, too? shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn t it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie s list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today.
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shot of the morning. prince harry trying to up the queen with his royal photo bomb. sorry, queeny. giving two thumbs up behind those men at the commonwealth games in scotland. that s when britain plays scotland and they try to go for gold medals. you may remember the grandmother s photo bomb went viral. she s also known as the queen. you just called her queeny? is that wrong? we just called her a grandmother, too. she s royally offended. should we stay overseas across the lake? across the pond? yes, why not? let s talk thomas the tank. the train is getting accused of being racist. british blogger posted an editorial and said that this is racist, sexist. she says if you look through the steam rising up from the coal powered train stack, you realize that the pretty puffs of smoke are containing twisted messages
when the good engines pump out white smoke and the bad engines pump out black smoke and all pumping out smoke, it s not hard to make the leap into the race territory. but of course. so thomas the tank engine is in this blogger s and a mother s estimation, is a racist sexist, classless kind of show. we asked for your comments. we got a tweet from matt who said, seriously? get a grip, lady. thomas is a great and helped expand my son s vocabulary. another said, are you kidding? my kids grew up watching this and they re far from racist. another man says it s antiracist. the story line that steam engines and diesels are different and yet they can be friends. a lot of people don t think diesel and steam can be friends. working together appears over and over. a lot of people think the white smoke symbolizes the white man giving orders to others. right. that s what the blogger says. you see the white smoke. what about when they elect a new pope?
so they burn the ballots, first there is black smoke and then white smoke. is that a racist thing? right. and as chris chulo pointed out an f-troop, they had white smoke and one time it came out black smoke and it was because they had a hole in the blanket. but there was no complaints then. nothing deeper than that. larry storch didn t become pope then, did he? no, stuck with being a corporal. and as a sergeant, made all the decisions. another woman thought otherwise, but we love hearing your responses. keep them coming. let s toss it over to that woman there in white, heather nauert, who starts with the news on that stranded boat. this is quite a story. a fox news alert, moments ago that stranded whale watching boat off the coast of boston has returned back home. it was supposed to be out for just a three-hour tour, but it turned into a bit of a nightmare. 15 hours for passengers there. the boat s propeller was stuck in a lobster trap 60 miles off
the coast of boston s harbor. nearly 160 tourists were forced to stay on the boat overnight. those things happen. accidents happen and things like that. the reaction was very slow. seemed like ages. what a story they get to bring back home. that tour company is now apologizing, saying it will refund all the passengers for the cost of their trip. a homeless mother in arizona arrested for leaving her children in a hot car during a job interview is now defending her decision this morning right here on fox & friends. listen to this. i believe that i made a choice in a desperate situation. i had to choose between either providing for them or caring fo. and i made the best choice out of a bad set of options. does she deserve a second chance? you ve been writing us all morning. dia says if there was ever a time for a judge to use someone
as an example, this would be the case and now would be the time. another says of course she deserves a second chance. we all deserve a second chance. carl says it was a bad choice to leave the kids in the car. but it would be punishing her kids even more by putting her in jail instead of teaching her how to make better choices. she had three children in the car. three young children. dating the traditional way can sometimes be pretty tough. hello? yes. i m with him right now. no, not very attractive. no, doesn t make much money. a bit fat. ouch. gosh. how awful. it looks like on line dating can t be trusted either. it s called okay cupid and it s been conducting this crazy psychological experiment on users without the users even knowing about it. the web site s co-founder says users photos and bios have been changed and also removed the name of people in this
experiment. the site told people they were a good match when in reality they were awful for one another. so a lot of people getting upset about this. this on the heels of facebook doing something somewhat similar recently. major department stores, including macy s and j.c. penney busted after an investigation found that they re actually selling customer s gems that are filled with cheap glass and referring to them as real rubies. you can see the difference after putting them in jewelry cleaner. look how it crackles on the left. the lead glass stone on the left appears to be cracked. the real one on the right sparkles. both stores say they mark the products as lead glass rubies. macy s says they re going to retrain their salespeople now. j.c. penney says they will refund dissatisfied buyers. those are your headlines. not a good idea to buy your wife for an anniversary. it looks like a mood ruby. it changes with my mood.
unlike the ruby slippers. do you know what the ruby slippers were made out of? sequins sewn on. i ve seen it at the smithsonian. just stitched onto a pair of shoes. when my daughter asked if they were real, i said yes. they were bedazzled. if you had not seen that story, there was a spoiler alert. it would have been nice if you said that. maria molina joins us. we were talking about the wizard of oz that involves a tornado. there was some tornadoes making news yesterday. that s right. yesterday and there was one specifically just outside of the city of boston. a confirmed ef-2 tornado, winds of 120 miles per hour. a lot of damage out there. thankfully no injuries. that was in eastern parts of massachusetts. hyped that storm system behind that storm system that produced all kinds of severe weather on thursday and monday, we do have cooler air that s moving in. that s a very strong cold front that moved eastward.
and now look at the temperatures. a little chilly for some of you. like in detroit, you re looking at a current temperature of 55. 58 in buffalo. you re at 54 degrees in pittsburgh. your highs are going to remain below average out there across portions of the midwest and into the northeast. still hot across parts of texas and even farther west like in phoenix, 109 for your high temperature out there. we do have a disturbance that s swinging through portions of the west and even into the plains. it is going to be producing areas of heavy rain, flood watches are in effect. let s head back inside. thank you very much. a fox news alert talks of a new cease fire. happening now in gaza. is israel being treated as the bad guy. former israeli ambassador to the u.s., michael, joins us live ahead. before he was deployed to fight for this nation, his home looked like this. now it looks like this. all because of a code violation. that soldier joins us live next.
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welcome back. quick headlines for you. google can predict the stock market? researchers found the search engine can spot crashes before they happen. analysts looked at business searches between 2004 and 2012 and found spikes right before drops in the stock market. a golden retriever so excited when her favorite soldier returns home.
her owner was deployed for nine months. look at that reunion. heart warming. hey there, steve. they never forget. thank you. he served on the front lines in iraq and afghanistan, but while sergeant jimenez was away on active duty, a whole different kind of war was being waged over his property, his house in miami, florida. the city claimed james had several code violations and they demolished his house while he was at war. last week sergeant jimenez scored a big win against big government and he joins us live right now from el paso, texas, where he serves at fort bliss. good morning to you, sergeant. good morning. thank you for having me. good to have you. what a story. so a number of years ago, the county said that you needed to fix up your house or what was going to happen? from the beginning, it was excessive use of force from them. they said you need to bring your house up to code, current code,
even though it was built in 1947. something that wasn t doable. and so why were they telling you to do that while they weren t telling the other people on your block to do it? that s exactly where the confusion was, i tried to ask them why me? if die it, then that means i m submitting the rest of the neighborhood to the same process. absolutely. so you started the process. you started to fix things and they kept coming back and kept saying, while you re at it, fix this and this. eventually you hired an engineer to help you, right? that is correct. what did he do? they proved that there was no structural issues with the house and everything that they wanted could be done and we had plans drawn and engineer report and once the architect went to ask for the permit, the same guy that was making the building official, he denied the permit for building. so you were on it.
you were trying to comply. then out of nowhere, they demolish your house. did you have notice that they were about to do that? negative. there was no court order for us to vacate or anything. how did they get away with that? the building department, they re their own entity. they have the power to do basically whatever they want. because this was a personal issue. they did exactly that. okay. so last week a judge ruled in favor of you, saying the county should have delayed the building code violation proceedings against you while you were on active duty overseas. so they smacked down the county. now that you have won, what do you want? i just want this to be over. it s been hard for our family. some people might think the money will make up for it.
there is nothing that makes up for a lost home and all the memories that came with it. okay. so i understand from your attorney you want the city to drop all the liens, including the demolition costs and suspend all code enforcement and pay $395,000 as well. is that correct? that is accurate. okay. and in the meantime, you moved on. you re in texas, right? yes. and you just want it to be behind you. what a terrible story. we hope you wind up with some justice, sergeant. thank you very much for joining us today from texas and telling us your story. thank you. good luck to you. that is just a little crazy. it is now 12 minutes before the top of the hour. a fox news alert. talks of a new cease fire agreement happening as we speak in gaza. but is the united states treating israel as the bad guy? former israeli ambassador to the united states, that man right there, michael orr, joins brian next. first let s check in with
martha mccallum for a preview of what happens on the channel in a little bit. good morning to you. john kerry is fighting back today as criticism mounts in his handling of israel and hamas. russia grows more bold, testing a missile that violates a treaty that we have with them. we re going to talk about that. how about this, is the irs now starting to take on churches? bill and i will see you right here on america s newsroom at the top of the hour. losing your chex mix too easily? deploy the boring potato chip decoy bag. with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix has twenty bags of interesting. pick your mix.
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fox news alert. four israeli soldiers dead this morning as new explosions rock the city of gaza. this after israeli missiles take out a power plant and the home of another hamas leader. now the palestinian authority is calling for 24 hour cease fire, saying hamas has agreed to a
temporary peace. but our next guest says the only way to end this crisis in the middle east is to crush hamas. the former ambassador to the united states is with us. how long will it take to crush hamas? very few in the west would be sad if they were to disappear. how long would that take? good morning to you. it may take a while. what israel needs is time and space. we ve been through this round, this cycle again and again where the terrorists shoot rockets at us. we fire back. the world imposes a cease fire. the terrorists use that cease fire to build up their rocket arsenals, then fire again with even longer range rockets and bigger rockets. the whole thing starts we got to break this cycle right now. to do that, you got to deliver something close to a death blow to hamas. you got to get them into a situation where they re not going to use those rockets. they re in charge of gaza. they merged with the palestinian authority. you have to get rid of every single one of them to ask them
to leave or killed? we re talking about demille tearizing the dealership. they can stay there. they don t have rockets, what goes on from gaza is their business. as long as they re not firing at israeli citizens, as long as they re not digging tunnels under our cities, our farms to come up and kill our civilians, that s their business. ambassador, the long run, if you destroy every tunnel, they know how to make them. they ll make them again. how do you stop that? do you look for a long-term israeli presence in gaza after the violence stops? i think the idea is to get out of gaza as soon as possible once the work is done. but you have to develop a type of underground iron dome defense system, iron dome is the revolutionary israeli antiballistic system that has taken down hundreds of rockets over our city, including this city, tel aviv. we need an underground version of that. the united states faces very similar challenges with tunnels under its southern border. we haven t come up with a
yet. but we came up with a technological answer for missiles, we ll come up with one for the tunnels. you know about the world of diplomacy and witnessing this fires. josh earnest is calling on israel to do better. listen. israel and their political leaders often talk about the high standards that they put in place for their military operations to ensure the safety and well-being of civilians on the palestinian side of the border. based on published reports, it s apparent that there is more that they should do to live up to those standards that they have set. ambassador. more you could do? i came to my job as ambassador not as a diplomat, but as a military historian. i ll tell you right off that there has been no army in the history of warfare that has done more to minimize civilian casualties, whether it s dropping thousands of leaflets, sending text message, making phone calls to palestinian
civilians, telling them to leave areas where combat is about to take place. having said that, are you insulted by the charge? i wonder what published reports they re basing them on. are they basing them on al gentleman sneer a reports? are they basing them on reports from the united nations is this which is scarcely which is scarcely an objective source about israel. a few years ago we had the report that had israel guilty of war crimes and then found it was false and they had to apologize for them. i personally take strong objection to the fact that we re not doing enough. we re doing a super human job to avoiding casualties. straight ahead, atheists vowed to remove the cross from the 9-11 memorial. the decision is in. we ll share it pain from your day can haunt you at night, don t let it.
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before we go, we have one for the road. a win for state of new york city where a court ruled the ground zero cross can remain at the september 11 museum. atheists filed a lawsuit to remove the steel beams found in that shape among the wreckage. they claim the site of the cross made them physically sick. the court says too bad. excellent. 14-year-old kayla leans over and grabs a foul ball. look at this grab. it was beautiful. it was a wonderful grab. but the problem is it might have been interference. there was some protest, but in the end, the girl gets the ball and an autograph from todd frazier for the wonderful catch. and before we go, we want you to look good. you know spanx, they re coming out with jeans. two different styles with slimming fits and strategic stomach control panels which
brian and i have been talking about. why don t they have those for guys? sounds like the spanx will be about 150 bucks. you chose spanx as your one for the road. we spanx you for it. thanks, everybody. christmas gifts not too early, is really war planes hitting targets in gaza overnight, watch this. those flares turning the sky orange. hamas government complex hit, fuel tanks they look like they re exploding into flames. another strike hitting in gaza city where fox news staff is saying this

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favorite. about 150,000 fans are expected at churchill downs in louisville tomorrow evening. that s going to do it for way too early friday edition. morning joe starts right now. not only has donald sterling been banned from the nba for life, he s he s also been planned from the bunny ranch brothel in atlanta. if you want to have a good time at the bunny ranch, don t be a racist or animal killer. dennis hoff wants nothing to do with donald sterling. dennis hoff says the main reason why he is banned for life is out of respect for the nba players that come here to the bunny ranch. he has that respect. good morning. it is friday, everybody. it s friday, may 2nd.
what a wonderful day may 2nd is. with us on set it is friday this year. it s mika s birthday. happy birthday. i love a taurus. that s her sign. i m 47. am i to be happy about this? of course you are. national holiday in at least three countries. it is. best you ve ever been. have you seen pictures of her at 27? best she s ever been. that s nice. i ve seen that hair. no, i m three years from 50. that s the way i look at it. is that a positive way to look at it? that s not a positive attitude. why not? why not? i think 47 is just fine, thank you. you re thriving. i m thriving. and i know my value. yes, you do. i remember when i was 47. yeah. i do too. msnbc, time magazine analyst
mark halperin is here. former treasury official and morning joe analyst, my travel agent, steve rattner. and in washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist of the washington post , eugene robinson. what are you going to do for your birthday? i m going to go to sleep. hopefully nor a long time. that s a good present. i m going sleep for a very long time. maybe more like a putting a dog down kind of way. 21st version of timothy leary. i like how your arianna and dr. brzezinski is the same. yes. one is a female voice. it s very zsa zsa gabor. your zsa zsa is very good. you are stunning. we had fun last night moving on away from the
birthday at the national magazine awards. have you ever been to that? it s really a great event. so well organized. great crowd. i think they were all drunk. they were not drunk. i do, i think they were. our friend was there. it was a great night. national geographic took some home. bon appetit magazine cleaned up. the new yorker cleaned up. i mean, these guys, i almost there s steve. columbia. the school of journalist. cindy leavy, glamour. then in a huge category shocker for people. big win for them. they had eight. and cosmo won. and magazine of the year. best company. that was awesome. that was fun. yeah. very exciting night. the award that s a big thing. i had no idea what it is.
bunch of boomerangs put together. let s get to the news, shall we? sure. the new york times is reporting this morning that u.s. sanctions over ukraine are having a limited impact on russia as vladimir putin demand troops withdraw from part of the country. the russian ruble and stock market are actually stronger now than they were before the first wave of u.s. sanctions were announced. that s not really the idea. meanwhile, an operation is underway in eastern ukraine to reclaim the city controlled by pro-russian militants. gunfire and explosions could be heard as ukrainian forces claim they regained control of at least nine check points. the militants shot down two military helicopters. at least three people have been killed including a ukrainian pilot. separatists loyal to moscow are building barricades in an
attempt to keep ukrainian forces away. it has been a violent week in the region with pro-russian militants seizing control of government buildings. yesterday the men overpowered to storm a building. they are fighting. they are fighting. you know it s not a good sign when vladimir putin tells you to withdraw troops from your own country. and the sanctions are having unfortunately limited effect. so we will obviously keep a close look on this. this is also when you see scenes like this, you are going to wonder at some point if we need to help them in a more tangible way. i think most people when they look at the fact they look at the fact that the ruble is doing better, the stock market is doing better than when the president issued the first round of sanctions, not a good sign. also not a good sign when your donors that are going to help you get elected president start talking about moving to another
candidate. that s exactly what seems to be happening and according to reports to chris christie. we ll go there. chris christie was leading early polls and considered a top contender to a hillary clinton run in 2016. but now a report says some republican fund raisers even some in the new jersey area with considering jumping ship from christie for jeb bush as the former florida governor looks at a bid. jeb is also getting some support from his brother. i hope jeb runs. and i think he would be a great president. i have no clue what s on his mind. we ll talk when he s ready. i notice he s moving around the country quite a bit. doing well in polls. yeah. that s fine. they don t mean anything. for him i can guarantee he s not looking at a poll to decide
whether or not he wants to run. it s internal. he s checking his core. as he said publicly, i m thinking about my family. and he knows full well what a run for the presidency can do on family. after all, he s seen his dad and brother run for president. so jeb, if you need advice, give me a call. okay. it is worth noting according to a new quinnipiac university poll, jeb easily leads the rest of the 2016 pack in his home state. that includes marco rubio who i think people are talking about as well. people are talking about marco as well. it s going to be interesting to see what s going to happen there. mark halperin, this is something we ve been talking about for quite some time. the only reason jeb s thinking about even running in this case is because chris christie started to fall. and when that happened, there s no establishment gop candidate and he figures perhaps maybe why
not. the gop establishment, the money people play in the process. and jeb still has as that story suggests, a large hold on them. and governor christie s troubles have only exacerbated the search. there s 30 people talked about as running. that was true even when chris christie looked strong. it s also true in 2012 and jeb didn t take the jump in for a lot of the same reasons he s thinking of not taking the jump in right now. but, you know, we have said from the very beginning this chris christie story is important. and it does have a direct impact on who may be elected the next president, tom. as chris christie goes down, that fills a void and that looks like that void right now is going to be filled by jeb bush. there certainly are establishment republicans that have a long history with the bush family and like what jeb bush represented when it comes to his history in florida. it also means because of jeb
bush s family ties with his wife and his kids and the fact that they have a deep connection with the latino and hispanic community, that they might be able to be the bridge that can help usher in a new wave of people to the gop. get them back interested with other people that are currently in elected office have been scaring off that demographic. they have. and jeb was as good or better than anybody i ve seen. certainly better than any republican i ve seen with latino voters. all right. here s an issue that could definitely impact the 2016 elections and become a little problem for potentially one candidate. overnight at least five people were killed in a militia attack at the libyan security headquarters in benghazi. the situation in that area, in that country still far from stable. 19 months after a raid on the u.s. consulate there left four americans dead. held its latest hearing yesterday in the 2012 attack.
the focus around a recently released e-mail of talking points that aimed to underscore the idea that the protests were triggered by an anti-islam video. critics say the message rees looed this week is proof there was a political agenda at play in the white house. but the administration says it was about the wider middle east and not specifically about libya. the e-mail was about protests around the region. if you want to tell me today that the protest and, again but benghazi was part of it, right? right. i want to refer you to the cia talking points on that. most people remember there were demonstrations around the region that were in reaction to what people felt was an offensive video. you were being cautious. you re saying there s an investigation there. that s 9/12. why on 9/14 is ben rhodes
writing an e-mail saying judgments this was inspired by a video. why wasn t it we don t know. do you need a copy of the cia report? i ve read them. it is a cut and paste from the talking points which much to your disappointment turned out to be produced by the cia. mark halperin, that s just not true. first of all, here s nancy pelosi. i think she said it best right here when she said benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. what i will say is benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. why aren t we talking about something else? whatever was in that what i know of what i ve read in the press about the those e-mails were very consistent with what was put out there before. i don t think there s anything new there. we re talking about it because the white house has been caught in a lie with benghazi. and one commentator yesterday
said who s often critical of republicans, it wasn t just a lie, it was a stupid lie. because it s obvious they re not telling the truth. the documents, the lawsuit that ordered them to release these documents, what did they ask for? not information pertaining to white house records involving the middle east. information involving all discussions involving benghazi. so the white house released this e-mail which clearly shows they weren t telling the truth earlier and that jay carney was spinning for whatever reasons. also, you know, the cia document they kept talking about, the acting cia chief said they weren t the ones that supplied it in the first place. this is what the white house has been doing and they ve been caught. wouldn t it just be better for them to say, yeah, to come clean at some point or are they just going to keep lying? are you saying they can t
have it both ways? i m saying that, first of all, jay carney needs to understand and by the way, he should understand. i m taken by people that go in the white house and thinks the history ends when the white house ends. on the other side of the obama administration, he s going to have to come out and he s going to have to piece together his reputation. i say that as a guy i liked. i liked as a journalist. i respected him as a journalist. i still like him as a person. but i ve seen this. i am getting old enough older than 47. oh yeah. that was doing the same thing. in 2005 i called her up. i said you know what? this administration s going to end, and you re going to have decades to deal with your credibility after it ends. stop lying to me. because you re going to have to deal with me on the other side of the bush administration. bush is going to go back to texas and i m still going to be here. when you wonder why jay carney is doing what he s doing, i
think shattering the reputation, a well-deserved, good reputation he built at time magazine doing this when everybody knows he s lying. from the beginning, the posture of everyone around the president s been there s nothing to see here, move on. when they do stuff like this, it em boeboldens critics. how can you ask us to trust you when you say there s nothing here and then you do this? if benghazi s not a big deal, if people think benghazi s not a big deal chuck todd seemed to think yesterday benghazi wasn t a big deal. that s fine. have that debate. but if there s an e-mail directing susan rice to go and push a line and they don t reveal that, well, they ve got to come clean. when we look at what exactly was in this specific e-mail that was released and the bullet points given to her to use as
reference points to go on these shows, that was in there. to underline the fact this was not a broader policy failure. gene, when we look at this and the ramifications that come from it, let s not forget as we get caught up in the benghazi conversation, we lost four americans. we lost four americans committed to the state department. we lost four americans that were in libya that was a rat hole after muammar gadhafi was out. so this is an embarrassment for the white house. but how do they reclaim the narrative so jay carney doesn t look like just a big liar in trying to remind everybody from that lecture the history of the time, which is okay to do, but how do they look like they re not lying about what was done? you know, if there are any other e-mails, just put them out. just put everything out. because in the end, this is a
scandal without a center. you know, what s at the center of this is was the real if there s a scandal, it is a state department security preparations prepositions of forces, the assessment before the attack as to what sort of danger the ambassador and the cia facility might have been in in benghazi. that s what went wrong there. and, you know, to expect there to have been a clear narrative of exactly what the motivations were of the miscreants who did this, a couple of days after the attack is ridiculous. it s absurd. nothing ever happens like that. so if the criticism is that the white house is dragging this out and is making it a bigger deal, a different kind of deal than it
ought to be, i think that could be a valid criticism. just put everything out there, because really the issue is what allowed benghazi to happen? not whether what the talking points said. what the talking points said, it s just a ridiculous sideshow. and by the way, go back for liberals who have been watching the show the past couple days and friends of the obama administration who have been frustrated what i m saying about jay carney and the talking points, see what i said the monday morning after benghazi when i absolutely tore mitt romney to shreds for jumping to a conclusion. just following what gene said, for jumping to a conclusion and trying to politicize this. yes, when you hold a press conference after a u.s. ambassador is dragged through the streets without knowing all the information, you re politicizing it before knowing what s going on. i think both sides tried to
immediate politicize this. obama administration, oh, this has nothing to do with our policy. it s just an internet video by a crazy person. then you have mitt romney in the middle of a campaign saying this is the worst thing ever, blah, blah, blah. now as things get revealed, maybe mitt romney was right. but he didn t know at the time he was right. but the problem with the white house is that they re the ones sitting there now still having to clean up for some really stupid things they did and some misleading things they did. former national security council spokesman looked to down play his role in changing the talking points saying it s difficult to remember because it was so long ago. according to the e-mails and the timeline the cia circulates new talking points after they removed mention of al qaeda. then at 6:21, the white house, you, add a line about the warning of september 10th of social media reports calling for
demonstrations. true? i believe so. did you also change attacks to demonstrations in the talking points? maybe. i don t really remember. i don t remember. dude, this was two years ago. dude, it is the thing that everybody talking about. we re talking about the process of editing talking points. that s what bureaucrats do all day long. okay. listen, if you want to keep me off your back, do what he just said. say dude. i love the guy, but there he knows exactly what he did. we ve all been in that situation. i can remember as a lawyer editing things. i can remember as a business person we can remember that was like eddie haskell there. come on, he knew. he remembers everything about that. this white house dude, that was like two years ago? that was a very long
interview. it was a small part. when you cut through all this, there s two basic points or questions. one, obviously the white house should come clean. we all know the coverup is worse than the crime. drip, drip, drip. just get it all out. and we also know on that part, the cover up, it was the president was trying to be i m the tough guy. we won the war on terror. they wanted to make this a spontaneous demonstration. but the fact is it s just not true and everybody knows. why don t they clean this up, steve? right. but the second question is is this really going you said at the beginning of all this 2016, is this going to become a national issue or is this inside the beltway? for hillary it will be an issue. because she talked about the telephone call. she got her own 3:00 a.m. telephone call and four americans are dead because of it. and if you think these are just republican talking points, talk to the family members of the
four americans who gave their lives for this country. it will be an issue. and hillary clinton and her supporters and any democrats that want to say, oh, this is just right wing a right wing to borrow one of hillary s phrases, a mass right wing conspiracy. wait until the end of the campaign. still ahead on morning joe, bill clinton a 2:00 a.m. phone call and cursing. you just don t want to get 2:00 a.m. phone calls. congressman jim clyburn was on the other end of that call. he ll be here to explain what happened. what? i m also going to ask about what a congressman had to say about clarence thomas being a, quote, uncle tom. also what he had to say about mitch mcconnell being a racist. some extraordinary things. plus new details that the inmate in the oklahoma execution had to be tased before the
execution. up next, new cell phone video just released from on board the south korean ferry as it began to sink. the reason why the video was actually released at this point. but first, bill kairns with a check on the forecast. bill? mika, i did my part. it looks like a beautiful birthday weekend for you. nice. happy birthday, mika. thank you, bill. last week was miserable around the country. now we re going to start to see spring taking over. warmer temperatures, too. there s a few scattered showers out there around cape cod. also some light rain around buffalo, syracuse, and rochester. temperatures are more mild today than they had been this past week. we re at the 50s in the big cities, 40s in the burbs. as we go throughout the afternoon, a gorgeous friday afternoon. low 70s to mid-60s. i know yesterday was nearly 80. it was kind of humid. today s more springlike, less
humidity, plenty of sunshine. florida s the exception. we ve got a lot of rain coming your way. not the flooding stuff we just dealt with, but scattered showers and storms friday, saturday, sunday. so here s your forecast for your weekend. we re finally ending the horrible warmth out wed. it was 95 in san diego of all places yesterday. wier finally watching everything averaging out. of course the kentucky derby is on saturday. looks to be about 73 degrees. no problems there in louisville. looks beautiful and much of the country even into sunday should be looking pretty nice. there s really not any horrible weather. no severe storms, no tornadoes, nothing like that. mother nature is giving us a break as we go throughout our first may weekend. looking at a nice day across the country. more morning joe when we come right back. avo: wherever your journey takes you
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all right. it s time to take a look at the morning papers. look at the front page of usa today. 8 million people have signed up for the affordable care act. 8 million. that s great. 8 million. just saying. that s great. what are you saying? i m just saying 8 million people have signed up. that s pretty good. they need more and they need to get young people still. they do. that s a demographic they re still focusing on. why are you behaving so nicely? that s great. bill de blasio and the city s largest teacher s union agreed to a contract yesterday ending a five-year labor dispute. teachers will receive back pay of 8% of their salaries and bonuses for teachers with positive reviews. the union agreed to reductions in health care saving the city $1 million. from our parade of papers, the oregonian, cell phone video
recovered from one of the young victims aboard the capsized south korean ferry is giving new insight into what happened in that doomed ship. the student s father released the video to give it to the nation and let them get a glimpse into the disaster. at first the crew warns of a possible accident over the loud speaker. the video shows the students fooling around. but as the ferry begins to tilt, the mood changes to panic. towards the end of the video, you can actually still hear the crew telling passengers to stay in place. it s just outrageous. why would you do that? it s just outrageous. the los angeles times, the president of the naacp in los angeles has resigned in the wake of the scandal involving donald sterling. leon jenkins has been heavy criticized for his plan to present sterling with a lifetime achievement award. the group also granted sterling an award in 2009, the same year he was accused of refusing to
rent apartments to latinos and blacks. jeah. it was probably the second award they were giving to him. i wonder how much money he gave the naacp in return for that award? you ve got to look at the money you re given when you re in an organization like that. because it can t be dirty money. it s not worth it as one just learned today. the houston chronicle is reporting 55 colleges and universities are being investigated by the department of education for their handling of sexual assault complaints on campus. such an important story. among them, elite schools like emory university and harvard law school. also florida state and ohio state university. move comes as the obama administration announces new guidelines to prevent incidents and improve reporting on campus. such an important, important story, mika. related news from the wall street journal, reports of sexual abuse if had the military have skyrocketed. the pentagon says confidential
reports were 50% higher in 2013 than 2012. now, there were 86% higher among marines. the pentagon suggests it shows victims are more comfortable coming forward. but it didn t account for how many actual crimes were committed. i was going to say, actually, those numbers have gone up and skyrocketed. there s two ways to look at it. of course the number is going up always causes alarm, but maybe it means that people are starting to get comfortable coming forward in the military. which they ve never been comfortable doing before. it s difficult in real life let alone the military. especially in the military. absolutely. and also the previous story, in college, so many young people go away from home. something traumatic like this happens all in muddled circumstances that make you embarrassed to come forward. they re embarrassed, there s
shame. there s all these things that hopefully the obama administration, the push is going to actually make it easier for men and women but mainly young women to come forward. absolutely. this weekend s parade magazine features an exclusive from mariano rivera s where he recounts his journey from poor panama kid to world series mvp. all right. thomas? thanks, guys. with us now the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen, here with the morning playbook. give it to us, mike. happy friday! and happy birthday not only to mika, but also morning joe jesse rodriguez. 3-0 today. spotted last night celebrating. ooh, jesse. really? we shouldn t be texting jesse early this morning then. he might have a headache. let s talk about what else is
this weekend because we ve got the white house correspondents dinner. and looking at president obama and his sense of humor and why he may be hesitant to poke fun at himself. what have you learned? todd is pointing out here that president obama likes to make fun of other people more than himself. his self-deprecating humor doesn t go very deep. yes, the president jokes about his big ears and about his bad polls and about his birth certificate, maybe his gray hair. but doesn t really go after himself in the way that some other presidents have. a more typical joke by this president is, you ll remember when he said despite the rumors that he was born in a manager, he was really born on krypton. whereas president bush really went after himself. he talked about what the intelligence briefing for him
actually meant. but todd discovered that president obama has some company in this. another president who s very thin skinned at the time, bill clinton. talked to some of clinton s writers and the writers would get the jokes and clinton would be like, these are about me. they should be about the other people. and one of the drafts that was released in this most recent clinton document dump, one they tried out that clinton liked was the white house press corps was the opposite of lake woe be gone. that all were below average. we ll see how it goes. joel mchale is the host, right? people are excited about that. the weekend is growing and growing and growing. it s a big weekend. mike allen, thank you, sir. coming up, he said it was an honest mistake, but now there s a good chance you ll see jameis
winston king crab legs in a grocery store near you. that s right. and later, a suspected carjacker getting the ride of his life while holding onto the side of a new york city cab. morning joe straight ahead.
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all right. pay attention. it s take a peek time. it s time for sports. okay. three teams on the brink of elimination last night in the nba playoffs. warriors and clippers. golden state s steph curry led the way with points. 14 of which scored in the first quarter. the clippers come up just short. the warriors hang on for the 100-99 victory. game seven on saturday. memphis/thunder looking to stay alive. 104-84 win to force game seven. also on saturday. to atlanta, the hawks looking to end the pacers season. david west with the go-ahead
basket right there. he led the pacers on a 16-4 run to close things out with a 95-88 victory and even up the series. game seven in indy tomorrow evening. and another set of game six matchups tonight. the raptors and nets, spurs and maveric mavericks. all three of those pushed to seven. it s fantastic. agreed. we get to the ice now. round two of the stanley cup playoffs. canadiens leading the bruins. johnny boychuk scores the equalizer right there. this one ends up in double overtime. montreal on the power play. next the game winner. take a 1-0 lead in this series. game two saturday in boston. another round of matchups tonight. the pens host the rangers. and the wild visit the blackhawks. finally for you, yesterday we told you about heisman trophy winner jameis winston being busted for shoplifting seafood.
now there is a store catching in on the hype around this. a marketing gem in alabama. jameis winston king crab legs. unfortunately the shellfish, they are not for sale. this is just an in-store joke taking a pinch at jameis. what s he saying? he accidentally he walked out after accidentally walked out. how do you do that? who amongst us has not accidentally walked out with king crab legs. when it falls in your pocket and you don t know, what do you do? it s just like the time no, i never actually look. if you re going to shoplift crab meat, do the already packaged kind. i don t think he meant to do it. whatever. he was framed. he was framed. still ahead, mika, what do we have on this special birthday edition of morning joe ? the ukrainians are fighting back.
explosions, barricades, and downed helicopters as ukrainian forces are fighting back. the state department s rick stengel will be here on set live in our 8:00 a.m. hour. also we ll have the monthly jobs numbers released live at 8:30. also tina brown is going to be here for the must read opinion pages. you re going to want to hear about this one. it s about hillary clinton with surprising advice. we ll be right back.
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thank you. i m 47. it s okay, right? she s so young. she s so young. so have you seen tina s and she wrote this especially for your birthday because she knew it was a special day and this would be an op-ed that would get a lot of attention. this one is going to get a lot of attention. okay. you wrote a piece in the daily beast about hillary clinton being president you may have more power than anyone else in the country, but you quickly discover you have much, much less than you thought you d have going in. so knowing all this, why indeed would hillary run? now that chelsea is pregnant and life for hillary can get so deep deep deeply familial and present, she is as adored as any ex-president already. it will be another press-on slot from hell and such a hog tied two terms.
only the delights of hip replacement surgery will await her by the time she gets out. leave the presidency to the people who don t know what it s really like. jeb and hillary discussed both of them have seen what hell this is on their families. it s hell, but i even think that hillary is tough enough to deal with that piece. but what you re also seeing more and more is what a static, frustrating, tied down institution the presidency now is. what can you really achieve? in a way running for presidency now is what you can do in your post-presidency. you have to get through the complete sort of hog tied status of the oval office. get beyond it, then you re free. what was great to see at our summit was jimmy carter who i ve never seen a happier guy. i mean, he sat on the stage and he just wowed the audience talking about $1 toilets in west africa for women.
this is his initiative. how he s creating these for west africa. here s a guy who can talk about toilets for 20 minutes on a stage with a spell bound audience. he never seemed happier. he couldn t do anything when he was president as we know. has that platform to help the world. she has a platform already. usually you have to have the presidency to have the platform. she s got it already. why do it? so why do it? gene robinson, a lot of democrats will push hillary clinton to move forward. but 2008 was brutal for her. no reason to think 2016 would be any less brutal. plus she s got the fights from the clinton administration, brutal ugly fights. she s got the fights from arkansas. she s been at this a very long time. why put yourself out there again? well, it s a that s a good question. i mean, i ve always thought that i m disagreeing with a lot of my colleagues that she has not made a decision to run and she won t make a decision whether or not to run for some
time. and she s got to really think about this. that said, you know, look at the position she s in. and look at the history she could make. and i think that will really weigh heavily on her. she, by all odds are that she could have the nomination if she wants it. and she d have an even or better than even shot according to the polls. much better than even of becoming president. as tina says, then, you know, you re president. and you ve got the four years and then eight years of misery ahead of you. but through that misery, maybe you can accomplish something. so i think she is an optimistic person. if she decides to run, it would be with the idea that she s going to get stuff done. and, you know, both of these races are so wide open, mark halperin. much wider than any race you ve covered. if hillary doesn t run, what
democrat does? if jeb doesn t run, what republican steps up? there are not any establishment candidates other than those two. yeah. those two are the big pieces. the missing element to me for her and whether or not she runs is what would she run to do? what would the presidency be like? what s the message? what gives her the burning desire. when her husband ran in 92, he had stuff he really wanted to do. she s been part of washington now for a long time. what is her vision? i m not saying she hasn t had one, but she needs to make clear what it is. there s plenty she can do without being a presidential candidate. there s an insatiable drive as a human being that hillary clinton has to achieve. and i think this could be a really bad analogy, but we all know when we have spoiled milk in the refrigerator, we know it s spoiled but we smell it
anyway before we throw it out. i think she would know what she s getting into having been the first lady and being, you know, secretary of state. but she, i think, has a desire to achieve this and can. i feel there s an evolution happening somehow on that. she cease what her husband has created, realizes she wants to focus i think so much on her passion really for ending gender inequality globally. and this has been such a focus of hers. is f that is what her big passion is which i believe it is, then you can achieve more of that in your post-presidency. totally. i also think that with jeb, it s like, we cannot expect this thing to just remain static. everybody said it s hillary s nomination last night. being a black president trumped her exceptionalism in president
barack obama. she was supposed to be the first woman president but first black president was more interesting. tina brown, thank you. good column. thank you. coming up, why residents in a small michigan town are up in arms over this city-approved public statue. that s art? i don t know what that is. i should call my mom. you re just not going to want to miss some of the other. what was that?
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can t use. this is exciting. thomas, what do you have? we start with crazy video from here in new york city. police say the man holding on for dear life was trying to carjack a taxi in the early morning in the bronx. that s the way we do it here. they topped speeds of 70 miles an hour. the cob driver hit the gas when he tried to take over the taxi. this taxi hit traffic and the carjacker jumped off carjacking another vehicle. he was arrested a short time later. why not hit the brakes fast and that dude would go flying? catlike reflexes. this is good. a small town in michigan, this is what i think we should do around here. a small town in michigan is looking to promote the arts. the importance of art in the community. i get tongue tied because it s so exciting. the skulltuculpture is called b
human. living today we can t do it alone. we rely on other people to try to survive. rely on people why? neighbors in the town disagree. not just one. they ve taken to calling this the orgy statue. for good reason. the artist said there was no intentional sexual assault in it and the harsh comment shows that the critics are thinking about it. well that would be if it s not intentional sexuality, then that just happened. it takes a village. sometimes it just happens. the town is going to be moving this to a less prominent location. let s buy it and put it on set. it s awful. that s unbelievable. i know. but the other big news today what? it s your birthday mika! whoo! oh, my god. i was told we have a birthday in the house today.
big birthday. thank you, bill kairns. yea! look at this. happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear mika happy birthday to you wahoo! are you one? are you two? you got a bear. i got bill kairns. this is great! i love it! the birthday suit comes later. no thank you. he always goes too far. always. happy birthday. come here. come here, bill. thank you. and louis, don t touch me. get out of here. well, happy birthday. what s your favorite birthday memory? speech! speech! what s your favorite birthday
memory from growing up? i don t really have any. we didn t do stuff like this. was it that bad? we just didn t do, like, parties or anything. how about the year they gave you that sled? what sled? what are you talking about? this cake looks amazing. thank you. i need to blow some of the stuff off the top here. all right. very good. that way we can clean off the confet confetti. we ll be back with more of morning joe. at the top of 7:00, we have much to talk about but i forgot everything because of this birthday. my. tongue. finally. (announcer) all-new friskies saucesations. a taste experience like no other. in cheesy, creamy, homestyle, or garden sauce. friskies. feed the senses.

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according to the e-mails an the timeline, the cia circulates new talking points after they removed mention of al qaeda. then at 6:12, the white house, you, add a line about the administration warning of september 10th of social media reports calling for demonstrations. true? i believe so. did you also change attacks to demonstrations in the talking points? maybe. i don t really remember. you don t remember? dude, this was like two years ago. we re still talking about the most mundaoneundane dude, this is what everybody is talking about. we re talking about editing talking points. that s what bureaucrats do all the time. tommy v., dude. i like it. joining us from washington, david gregory. but now we have chief white house correspondent and
political director and host of daily rundown, chuck todd. and editorial director of the journal ron fournier. i like the tiara it s impressive, isn t it? yes, it is. whenever she goes and weekends in south of france, she has a tiara with her. one day i m going to the south of france. you should. thank you. wear that the rest of the day. all right. so obviously a lot of discussions about benghazi yesterday, just the political side of it. but a deadly incident last night. yeah. let s get right to it because there s politics all around it as well. overnight five people were killed in a militia attack at the headquarters in benghazi. the situation in that country is still far from stability 19 months a a raid on the u.s. consulate there left four americans dead. the house overnight committee held its latest hearing into the
2012 attack. it focused around an e-mail recently released. critics say the message which was only released this week is proof there was a political agenda at play within the white house. the administration, however, says the e-mail was about the situation across the wider middle east and not specifically about libya. ed, the e-mail was about protests around the region. if you want to tell me today that benghazi was part of it, right? right. i would refer you to the ca produced talking points on that. most people remember that there were demonstrations around the region. that were in reaction to what people felt was an offensive
video. why then on 9/14 is ben rhodes writing an e-mail that is making judgments that this was inspired bay video? why is it not ed, do you need a copy of the cia talking points? i ve seen them. read them out all you want. from the talking points which much to your disappointment turned out to be produced by the cia. house minority leader nancy pelosi says there is nothing to see in the new e-mails. what i will say is, again, diversion subterfuge. benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. why aren t we talking about something else? whatever was in that what i know of what i ve read in the press about the those e-mails were very consistent with what was put out there before. i don t think there s anything new there. and ahead of the white house correspondents dinner, politico is out with a survey of 60 members of the press corps. nearly 60% have covered the
president for ten years or fewer. 61% say press briefings should be changed from their current form calling for fewer talking points, more questions from different journalists, and they should be shorter. many journalists scored the briefings as more lame than essential. when asked if they interviewed someone who wasn t in the communications office in the last week, more than half said, are you kidding. half of those surveyed say they ve been lied to by an obama white house official. nearly 40% say they have been sworn at by an official. it happens. and it happens, the swearing at least, happens in lots of different administrations. ron fournier, you wrote a great column about and i love if you look at the bottom of the screen, man. this is murderer s row. this is like the 27 yankees. you ve got chuck todd at the white house, ron fournier at the white house, david gregory
moderator of meet the press. these guys all know the white house. ron, you wrote a column about this yesterday. you look at someone like marlon fitzwater, tony snowe. they were able to deliver bad news in a way that i ll just be blunt, this current white house is not been able to deliver news. there s a hardening, it seems, of the press corps. right now the white house press corps in there and for somebody that s known jay carney for a long time and liked jay carney, it s tough to see himself conducting himself in the way he s conducting himself. what s going on inside the white house? thanks, dude, for having me on. dude, you re the one that asked to be on, dude. i m joking. dude, it s been two years. tommy v. breaking out the northwest florida slang. i love it. good lord. joe as you know any great
corporate communications staff knows the difference between winning a news cycle and winning the public s trust. the problem with this white house is they re good at winning news cycles and in doing so they lose the public s trust. there s not a better example to illustrate that right now than benghazi. if you want to set aside for a second the important national security issues. what did the president know, what did he do, what happens when you get involved in a country like this, what s the fallback. set those aside for a second and look at the communications team that s paid a lot of money to communicate to the public. we now know beyond a reasonable doubt, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the communications team treated this as a political crisis. not a foreign policy crisis. and in doing so put out information really quick that was really long, then didn t correct it until there was a lawsuit. they were fine having a bad narrative out there. didn t want to correct it because they were only worried about winning one news cycle at a time.
and in doing so, they ve hurt their credibility. these issues splash over to the president s credibility across the board. and i think this credibility issue is why not just on benghazi, is why his numbers have been coming down. david gregory, we ve all had the conversation at one time or another with pres people for republicans and democrats alike i remember telling a mccain person in 2008 after he d lied to me the night before. i think i said, hey, dude, did not not think the sun was going to rise tomorrow? and mika remembers me saying that the next morning. i wasn t yelling at him. i said did you not think the sun was going to rise. and i was going to find out about your lie. am i going to trust you for the rest of this campaign? the answer is no. and we ve seen it. we ve seen it in a lot of different administrations. i m just curious if it would be best for the white house to cut its losses now and get this behind us. it s only a big deal if they keep covering it up.
well, i ll make a comment about benghazi in a second. but i think the larger point is all of these press secretaries have their brief. when ron and i were in the front row during the bush years, we understood that ari fleischer at that point had a lot of limits put on him in terms of what he could do. they wanted him to take tough questions, but be limited in what he could say. that s part of a pr machine that comes to sell the president s agenda and the president. there s always limited terms of what you can get. look. ron said put aside some of the security concerns. the real story about benghazi is what are the consequences for having a light footprint in a chaotic country post-invasion. that s the ongoing story. and by the way, a story that candidate clinton if she becomes a candidate will have to face. those are the big policy questions at work here. we know to ron s point that the white house had a political interest in advancing a story about this video really being at
the core of all of these protests. because anything that was spontaneous and happening fast is to their benefit in the situation opposed to being caught unaware about a terror attack which they didn t know about. we don t know. we know they were interested in the politics of this. we didn t know they were somehow telling any untruth. and we know that the intelligence community was saying, in fact, that this was a spontaneous eruption that happened in cairo and then evolved into a direct attack on the consulate. so we know there was an opportunity to sell it. we don t know what all the facts of this are. but this particular memo, for instance, why did they hold that back? of course it was related to benghazi. i think it creates more problems. one of the ways we know it was related to benghazi, the white house admitted it was related to benghazi before it was denied that it was related to benghazi as it was only released because the lawsuit said release documents related to benghazi. chuck todd, now to you, my
friend. so we were having this discussion before, chuck, and mark halperin and i were talking. i said well, why doesn t jay carney, a guy like i an awful lot, why doesn t jay just say no? i m not going to go out here and be put in this position. somebody said you can t do that. well, mike mccurry did it. other press secretaries have done it. it s a real balancing act, i understand. and it s extraordinarily difficult. but does jay not have a fairly tough relationship with the press corps that he has to stand in front of every day? i say yes, but it s not jay s doing that it s a tough press corps. this is sort of six years, honestly eight years of sort of dealing look. i think there has been in the worst development in white house staffs over the last two decades has been i think the entire press office is too big. i think there s almost too much. and so when you have so many
individuals dedicated to press communications, right, and communicating with press, then you re going to slip into over-spinning. you re going to slip into what they did here with these benghazi e-mails which is so paranoid about giving an inch to their opponents that they withhold too much. you know, everything about all of their some of these political crises if you want to call them that that the white house has bungled all has the same root issue. which is they have been reticent to engage. they say we re not going to give in, we re not going to give them more material. had they flooded the zone, had they just dumped everything out that they had including this e-mail, had this e-mail been sent out at the same time that we got that entire booklet of e-mails from state, cia, and white house. this would be much to do about
nothing. the e-mail was withheld. the e-mail itself isn t that damning. there s no smoke in this squirt gun, but it s because they didn t release it at the time and their credibility is why why didn t they release at it the time? everybody agree no smoke here? i disagree. i think there is smoke. it makes it clear at a minimum that they did what no one was surprised they did. they looked to contain the political damage. ron fournier? i agree with mark. i don t think that s a small thing. i think when you get caught spinning like this, when you get caught being incredible with the information, that s a big thing that splashes into other issues. as someone who has worked with jay and wants my white house to succeed, it was painful yesterday watching that briefing and get baghdad flashbacks. are we drilling down here on
benghazi in a time period where i think tommy v. used this phrase in his interview, he said collective amnesia. there was a lot going on with the arab spring in a lawless libya at the time. we knew the day it happened, when mitt romney went out and held a press conference that he held wsh david gregory i think it was an unfortunately press conference to say the least. he didn t know what was going on. nobody knew what was going on. and it was sort of shoot first, ask questions later on both sides. on both sides. and mark halperin and i they knew from the very beginning this was a huge deal. right. mark halperin and i were together at the moment when mitt romney started reacting. and by the way, he was reacting to the apologetic statements coming out of the cairo embassy related to the video. but i think to thomas point, the key questions here is we look back now and understand this was an attack on benghazi.
and there was at the time information that was flowing out of there that was quite clearly a pre-planned attack. so part of it is why didn t they know? why didn t the administration know? why didn t the services know? why did they move forward to talk about a video? again, a lot of things can be true at once. the intelligence community saying this was a spontaneous attack even though they didn t use video. it s not an illogical leap to make biased on what the belief was. david petraeus is telling folks on capitol hill this was not terrorism initially. but it s also true and don t forget we lived there u an area here with how much grief did the bush white house take for the politicizing national security when this is what s going on here when you have ben rhodes saying, look, we ve got to make sure this video story people understand. and this president is steady. of course. they don t want to be seen as weak on terror.
that s an obvious thing to do. joining us now republican representative from oklahoma, congressman tom cole. tom, good to see you. great to see you as always. happy birthday, first of all. thank you. from a fellow taurus. joe, you re a lucky man to have a taurus as a partner. and we re stubborn. so i ve heard. so i ve experienced. so congressman, let me ask you let s switch topics here and talk about minimum wage. it was voted on in the senate and voted down. there s some republicans we had tim pawlenty on the other day and others that believe the minimum wage should be increased, not to 10.$10.10, but should be. but that it could be raised for
compromise of keystone. i think you hit the formula. to put something that creates jobs with something that frankly is clearly going to cost jobs. you raise the minimum wage, you re going to lose tens of thousands of jobs across the country. second, you do have to realize in this case that, look. individual states can act on this as they choose to. 19 already have minimum wanls that are higher than the federal start. the point i made before, there s a big difference between the cost of living in new york or san francisco or oklahoma city. so whether a one size fits all minimum wages makes a lot of sense is worth thinking about. and again, states have the ability to act if they think it s in their interest. chuck todd? congressman, how you doing? hey. doing great. let me ask you this. do you think the minimum wage should be raised at all right now? would you raise it at all nationally? aren t we at one of the longest periods ever we haven t raised it? we re also at one of the lowest inflationary periods too. but the point is worth thinking about. i m go i think to address it from a oklahoma standpoint.
do i think the we need to raise the minimum wage in oklahoma? no. other states have the ability to act on this on their own. would i look at a minimum wage increase if i thought there were other things attached to it that would create jobs like keystone and additional things? yeah, i think i would consider that because i think job creation is a very important thing. steve rattner. congressman, you re right we re in a low inflationary era, but we haven t raised the minimum wage since 2009. it s now lower in real terms than it was in the 1960s. so isn t there a and historically the federal government has been involved in times like this. i m not telling you there s not a case to be made here. but there s also a case on the other side. one, individual states that want to move can move. two, we know according to cbo and other economists that raising it is going to cost a lot of jobs. losing half a million jobs is no
trivial matter in an economy that still has an unacceptably high unemployment rate. i suppose the president is supportive of doing this, but let s be real. he s using this as a political weapon to put something else on the table that would attract republican support. he hasn t done it. i think he enjoys the rhetoric of the debate. there is a compromise to be made here. we ll see if the president comes to the table with something other than $10.10. but put in keystone and something to create jobs, i bet he can get support. mark? what significance will be signed into law before the midterm elections? i hope a lot of appropriations bills as i m the appropriator and we re actually doing the normal work of congress for a change. i would expect an infrastructure bill. i think we ll do something in terms of transportation issue.
because transportation fund is going to run dry this fall. don t expect a permanent fix, but i would expect an extension into early next year. but to your basic point, look, not a lot. you know, i think we ve done some important things since the ryan-murray budget agreement. but i think the big things largely are being pushed past by both sides. i think that s unfortunate, but the political reality. all right. congressman tom cole, thank you very much. and again happy birthday. fellow taurus. taurusian, whatever you said. we have at least that in common. thank you very much, tom, for being on the show. david gregory, thank you as well. what s on meet the press this weekend? we ll have governor rick perry, fallout from the sterling story. and will.i.am will stop by to talk about his political
involvement. chuck todd, we ll watch the daily rundown at 9:01. i don t know. we ll see. i m going to make joe be quiet. you get it before 15 i ll be impressed. all right. ron, if you can stay with us, that d be good. coming up live at the top of the 8:00, rick seng el hold on a second. it is rick stengel s birthday as well. get out. rick stengel and you and jesse. i need more confetti. what a great eight. and white house correspondent for the a.p. julie pace. and brian sullivan. still ahead, are we being taught to love strangers and is that a good thing? but first, hillary clinton if barack obama would answer a 3:00 a.m. phone call. but it was a 2:00 a.m. phone call from president clinton that congressman jim clyburn wishes
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welcome back to morning joe. live look at capitol hill and a beautiful day in washington. it s may, and i think the sun is going to come out now. may 2nd. here with us now, assistant democratic leader, democratic representative from south carolina, congressman james clyburn. he s out with his memoir blessed experiences: genuinely southern, proudly black. and i can t wait to hear about the book, but first i want to hear about a blessed experience you had at 2:00 in the morning. tell us all about it. it was a phone call you got in the middle of the night. yes, yes. and the book sort of starts with that. how did that go? it was an interesting
morning. it was the morning after the south carolina primary back in 2008. of course i received a phone call. of course i m always up late. you were sleeping. no. i was up watching all the returns coming from around the state. that was a much-watched primary. my wife was asleep, but i was awake. and sure enough, the former president was on the phone. bill clinton. yes. my goodness. what was he calling to say, hey, how you doing, jim? not exactly. no? he was a little upset about the results that day. because hillary lost to barack. he was not pleased with that. so he just wanted to share his feelings or was there a message in what he was saying? there was a message. he thought i was involved in the. reporter: in losing it for
hillary. yes. i was not. i was neutral in the race. of course i had personal preferences, but i stayed out of the race. let me read about this blessed experience. i think the way you describe it in the book crystallizes it. this powerful voice came on the phone. if you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one. i needed no help identifying that voice. it was bill clinton. the former president of the united states, my longtime political friend. his wife hillary suffered a major defeat in south carolina s primary. obama had whipped her. and bill clinton wanted me to explain why. i told him i had pledged neutrality to the rules committee of the democratic national committee as a condition of their authorizing a primary in south carolina. and i had kept that promise. i asked him to tell me why he felt otherwise. he exploded using the word
bastard again and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest. that is your blessed experience at 2:00 a.m. the morning after south carolina. that s i ve had quite a few blessed experience. a few with joe. we ve never raised our voices at each other. no, we haven t. always had great respect for each other. that s true. although the experiences were not always that pleasant. democrat on democrat violence here, this makes me so sad. so what was it like being shouted down and sworn at by the president of the united states? it was a very uncomfortable experience. but i ve had a few of these. what do you say back to him? well, i listened for awhile. i was really caught off balance. and i told him i had pledged
neutrality. there was a big contest over who would get that primary. there was a fight against michigan, south carolina, and alabama. right. south carolina had won. but i was asked to remain neutral in the race. i remember. and i did. mark halperin? congressman, i know you d love to talk about bill clinton more, but i m going to switch to the title and subtitle. genuinely southern. in this big day and age, the big national media is becoming more interactive, the south is still distinctive. what does it mean today to be genuinely southern? the south is in transition today. i think we ve seen that south carolina maybe behind georgia, but if you take a hard look at southern states. florida, take a look at arkansas. kentucky s not exactly a southern state, but a border state.
you will see in north carolina that went for barack obama in 2008 and was a close race in 2012. i think the south is changing rapidly. a lot of my classmates that left when i graduated, over 80% of my class when i graduated college left the state. they re not coming back. a lot of young people are staying. all three of my children remained in south carolina. that was not the case when i was coming along. i think it s changed because we re getting much more progressive. we re getting more jobs and the kind of jobs that young people are being trained for. now, the reason i put that in there is because i want people to understand that being southern has a broader connotation than being very conservative or being white, for that matter. i don t want people explaining
away what they said saying i m a southerner. what does that mean? my mother and father were southerners, but they treated me with dignity and respect and everybody else. and that s why i put that in there. a lot of different experiences from the south, no doubt about it. let me ask you about something that s been making news this week. a fellow democrat, a fellow southern colleague vinny thompson has called clarence thomas, a quote, uncle tom. he doubled down again on that yesterday. suggested mitch mcconnell was a raci racist. said a lot of inflammatory things. does that cause you any concerns? no. i think thompson as you know is a very close friend. we knew each other for 20 years before he ever came to congress. you think it s all right to be calling a supreme court justice an uncle tom? all of us have ways of expressing our disappointment. i am very disappointed in
clarence thomas. do you think he s an uncle tom? i don t know. you don t know if he s an uncle tom? he s not the only supreme court justice there. but he s the only one being called an uncle tom. i think that s at extraordinary insult. you ll have to ask thompson. there are certain words and phrases i did not use. and i will never back away from this. i am extremely disappointed. you know, joe. we come to congress and these appointments, we are to bring tho toez bodies our experiences to broaden the application of justice in this country. well, clarence thomas has had an experience of being genuinely southern and being proudly black just like you and his experience led him to a different philosophy about government. and i don t know that he should be castigated because his
experience as a black american is different from thompson s experiences as a black american. can t we disagree with each other without calling each other names? sure we can. i talked to someone yesterday who told me they were highly insulted by some of the expressions that clarence thomas has made in his writings, in his opinions. a lot of african-americans find his opinions very insulting. he has a right to that. thompson though? you have no problems with him calling him an uncle tom? he is a close personal friend. we don t always use the same words and phrases. is mitch mcconnell as thompson thinks he is i don t know. ask him about that. i m not going to get into that. you know what? you re going no. around in circles. i am not going around in circles. it s time to wrap. no. why should i read this book?
because it s a blessed experience. because i think you would learn a lot if you were to read this book. you will understand a lot of what it s like to grow up black in the deep south, to have no aspirations beyond being a teacher, a preacher, or an undertaker. and you will see how a little black boy growing up in that environment with a mother and father who taught him that you can break through this, and he did. and he got the hall of the house of the house of representatives with joe scarborough. you would have been better to be an undertaker if you knew that was going to happen. but it s also important to remember also one of the most powerful members of the united states congress, it s an extraordinary story. you re a great guy. thank you for being here. thank you so much. i appreciate you. thank you. the book is blessed
experiences. congressman james clyburn, thank you so much. coming up, malaysian officials have released new documents on why they waited so long to search for flight 370. tom costello has that story ahead. and congressional cautions. we crunch the numbers next on morning joe.

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all right. it is almost 40 past the hour. it is. you know, big question about the election that s coming up in november. we re six years into the obama presidency. a lot of people are looking at it going, it s goingng to be a t like 2010. that s what republicans hope. yeah. but there are some that look back to 1998 you never can tell, can you? they re hoping to make big gains but history suggests this november is not a sure thing for the gop. derek has more in the latest edition of mojo place. president obama s job approval has the gop eyeing potential takeover in the senate and adding to the house majority. they point out in 2010 when the president s numbers were even stronger, republicans picked up a whopping 63 seats in the house
and five in the senate. i m not recommending they take a shellacking like i did last night. however, if they re relying on the president s poll numbers as an indicator, a look at history shows the six-year vote can be problematic for the gop regardless of what party s in power. in 1986 ronald reagan saw his highest numbers of his presidency with 68% approval. still the gop went on to shed five seats in the house and eight in the senate. losing control of the upper chamber. after the revelation of his affair with monica lewinsky, bill clinton was still flying high at 64%, again the gop was unable to capitalize while losing five in the house and stagnant in the senate. in 2006 george w. bush approval was down. look, this is a close election.
the if you look at race by race, it was close. the cumulative effect, however, was not too close. it was a thumping. november should serve as a cautionary tale for the gop considering dating back to 1958 republicans have lost seats in each of the six-year midterm elections. time will tell if history repeats itself. guys, back to you. all right. thank you. six-year itch not good for republicans. mark? it has not been. they ve made errors. they feel they re on track. they re raising money. they re doing decent on candidates in terms of the primaries. i think the democrats have to change the dynamic or republicans will have a good midterm. and there were three in one election once. i think we re doing well. i think we re doing well. so far so good. still ahead, forgot the partisan divide in washington. reverend jim wallis talks about faith on fridays. but first trusting strangers to
watch our pets, sleep in our bed. and the whole tinder thing. no. the new economy of trust. actually, it s not just trust. it s trusting strangers. it s weird. i think it s weird. but apparently is a good business model. we ll be right back. honestly, i m pouring everything i have into this place. that s why i got a new windows 2 in 1.
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we re talking about a gazillion dollar business, tinder where people throw themselves at the mercy of others for the purposes of dating strangers. and talk about this, because a lot of companies making a lot of money with a lot of crazy people. we got the executive editor of wired magazine. we wrote the magazine s cover story. how they finally get americans to trust each other. jason writes this, the economy has come on so quickly that economists are still grappling to understand the impact. but one consequence is already clear. many of these companies have unengaging in behaviors that some would think as unhardy years ago. where hopping in strangers cars into our master bedrooms. dropping our dogs off at their houses, eating their food using their forks and knives. we are letting them rent our cars, rent our boats, rent our
houses, and this is ghastly even our power tools. yes. we are entrusting complete strangers with our most valuable possessions and our very lives in the process. we re entering a new era of internet enabled intimacy. you said people are making lots of money doing this. they are. bnb is the one you get to stay in other people s houses and go through thomas underwear drawer just raised money at a $10 billion valuation.academics are low trust threshold. when you engage in a trusting behavior, you do an analysis. is the benefit going to outway the risk? and what a lot of companies are doing are lowering that risk. they re linking to a facebook account. this isn t like hitchhiking. they have a rating next to them based on their previous@on these services. it s linked to a credit card like it s paid before anybody
gets in the car or goes to the house. and there s also insurance or some kind of if the worst should happen and your place gets trashed, there s a million dollars of insurance that they ll pay you to make up for damages. it s not just like throwing open your door to whoever comes by. there are systems in place. as a lawyer, thomas, though, seriously the liabilities here just making me flinch. the valuation that recently came out for air bnb, $10 million? there is that recourse that people can enact if they feel they ve gotten a bad service. but it is really offputting to think that someone could be in your house or going through your things. logically. reporter: apparently not. instead of working from my apartment, make my apartment work for me. people are deciding to do it. and people are deciding they re willing to have people in their house in order to make money. ebay seemed totally bonkers. like you re going to send a
check to somebody you don t know and they re going to send you beanie babies. that seemed nuts. but eventually they built enough systems in place and it became common enough it doesn t seem so shocking anymore. enough it doesn t seem so shocking anymore. ron, would you do that? ron, by the way, i ve got two dogs for rent this weekend and a cat as well, if you d like to rent my dogs and cat for a weekend, let s talk after the show. no thanks, no thanks. i m fascinated about this whole topic. you talk about low trust, the public has no trust in the old financial institutions. where will the sharing economy be in five years and how much of the traditional fik system that people aren t trusting is replaced by a shared economy five years from now. jason? if you re talking about faith in financial institutions, the economy right now is not poised to replace that. it s poised to replace the taxi
and hotel industry. those are the industries it s competing with. i honestly don t think there is going to be some whole scale replacement. it s a different kind of experience. it s less consistent, right? do you think that the hotel is going to allow air b & b to get away with stealing their clients and not be regulated and not taxed properly? we re seeing it in new york. the question is what kind of restrictions are they going to put in place. i think honestly at this place this ship has sailed. i don t think regulators can just shut them down. tons of money. all right. the issue, the latest issue of wired is out. jason tanz, thank you so much. for more jason time, visit the afternoon session of our mojoe.
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i can t believe you just said that to me. t.j. told me to talk about this chopper shop and then said all i said was happy birthday. thank you, chopper 4. chrysler building. by the way, spring, it came yesterday out of nowhere. beautiful day. may the 1st, may day. finally. may 2nd.
joining us, chief national correspondent for the new york times. seriously i was looking up symptoms of a stroke yesterday, but it s really just you interrupting me. she was. the whole thing am i having a stroke? she just kept looking and i said you ve had it up for a few hours. she said my vision is blurred, i m slurring my words. but it s all better because mark leibovich is here. and i m a year older and so much better. mark leibovich, author of this town, now out in paperback and from washington, julie pace and of course we still have rattner at the table. stuck with rattner. it s perfect timing for you to be here, steve rattner. the employment numbers are here in less than half an hour. we re hoping for good news. you never know which way it s going to break. we had a very flat first quarter.
a lot of people concerned about that, but the market s exploding. i guess they figure it the weather. what s the jobless report going to look like? we don t know but we ll find out in half an hour. i can give you background and color on what we might expect. for the last year if we look at this chart, we ve had a pretty steady picture of about 190,000 jobs a month being created. but for this month the economists a little built moit optimistic for the reasons you say, joe, we re coming off a winter and hoping we re going to be more in the 220,000 range. the unemployment report did come down gradually last year but it has been pretty flat since then. you need certainly like 200,000 jobs a month just to keep the unemployment numbers from going up because of people coming into the labor force. but people should also look at
the long-term unemployed. we really have a problem. this is the percentage of the total unemployed that includes people not participating in the job market? doesn t even include them. so the situation is much worse? much worse. because a lot of people have dropped out. this only shows you the people who have stayed in. the percentage of total unemployed that are long-term unemployed is the highest it s ever been in history. it s come down from the highest 45% but even this number is the highest it ever been in our history. so it s a real problem and economists are increasingly worried. there was a study that just came out that a third of these people will probably never find job, a third of them will drop out of the labor force and only a third will be employed. but let s look at something that relates to washington. last december extended unemployment benefits expired for people over 26 weeks.
1.3 million people lost their unemployment insurance last december. we re talking about $286 a week, not talking about a lot of money. by june 30th, 3.2 million, by the end of the year, it s going to be 5 million. the republicans and democrats not surprisingly are fighting about this. the democrats passed a bill to extend this and the republicans won t extend it until they get what they want. the job participation rate is as low as it s been since the 80s and the situation looks bleak. first of all, i have massive telestrator envy. he is the john madden of if i knew he was going to be a tablet don t bring a knife to gun fight. or telestrator pen apparently
to a tv show. two things to add to your excellent analysis, labor force participation rate, we want it see the number go up. if it goes up, it means people are looking for a job, which means they think they can find a job. obviously the underemployed is also a number to watch, 7.4 million people working part time that might like to work full time. i can t get a full-time job so i m going to take the work that i can get, often without benefits as well. those are two other numbers. minimum wage jobs. unbelievable. mark leibovich, what are you writing about this week? i actually have a column next week. bits the merging of broadcasts and politics. you have people like mike rogers leaving the house intelligence leadership to go into television. directly. who else would do something like that? it s a bizarre, trail blazing move. he actually is going directly, though. going rogue.
i ve got to say, this kid show as lot of plock and fight and determination to do this. who would do that? it s amazing he had an amazing amount of i mean, you have an immense amount of power. what does that say about what it feels like to be in washington? maybe it doesn t feel so powerful anymore. there s that but it talks about the melding of the media world and political world. the realms are so interlocked that we have this one big people in the green room sector, which we all are. you talk, you tell people what they want to hear. what s the difference? money. you get paid a lot more money to be in the tv business. i m not getting actually paid for this. they give me some coupons.
your food truck is bringing in plenty of money. i m not getting paid. i understand why. hey, chris christie back in the news. it looks like some donors are thinking about dumping him for jeb. well, it wasn t so long ago that chris christie was leading in the polls and considered part of the contender among the republicans to challenge hillary clinton in 2016. now the new york times reports some establishment republican fund-raisers, as joe mentioned, even ones in the jersey area, are considering jumping ship from christie for jeb bush. meanwhile, jeb is getting some support from his brother, who knows a thing or two about running for the white house. i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. i have no clue what s on his mind, and we ll talk when he s ready. i notice he s moving around the country quite a bit and doing well in polls.
yeah, it s fine. it don t mean anything. for him, i can guarantee he s not looking at a poll whether or not to run. he s checking he is core and as he says, i m thinking about my fami family. he knows full well what it means to run for president. he knows the toll it takes on i don t family. so, hey, jeb, if you need some help, give me a call. does he seem happy or what? he seems happy where he is. according to the quinnipiac university poll, jeb bush leading in his home state. let s go to julie pace down in washington. julie, this is not in the words of the grateful dead a long,
strange trip for chris christie. it has been a short, strange, rocky, turbulent trip for the new jersey governor. and it looks like a lot of his donors are starting to lose patience. yeah. this donor battle between chris christie and jeb bush i think is fascinating because they re both playing for money from the same pot, where you have more mainstream republicans, more business-minded republicans, who first were leaning towards chris christie but the second that this bridge scandal popped up, started looking around to see who else was out there, and they really like jeb bush. this is a guy they would love to get into this race. i just also think that the bush family dynamics on this are absolutely fascinating. you have george bush saying i want my brother to run and you have barbara bush a few months ago saying i hope he doesn t run, we ve had enough bushes. i m curious what h.w. has to say. h.w. i think has long wanted his son to actually run for this
office. you know, mark, a lot of people close well, we had tina brown here, who is not extraordinarily close to hillary, but she s always been a big hillary fan, they ve run in similar circumstances. she wrote a column this morning saying basically, hillary, you know what it s like, don t run. and barbara bush doesn t want her son to run because of her son and her grandchildren. it s getting more brutal every day to do this. i don t know if there s momentum or if it s just chatter, but maybe hillary won t run. people have always been talking with the assumption that this is a fait de comeplete.
we have christie and jeb bush this reenforces the power of the establishment. whenever you have a bush and christie conversation, the tea party are very aggrieved, who are these establishment people? all of a sudden people do sort of line up behind them and it a very, very powerful kind of endorsement. it always happens. it always happens. in 1992 you had the challenge of course when pat buchanan, george h.w. bush ended up winning. in 96 it was buchanan, the conservatives hated bush, dole won. john mccain, all the conservatives couldn t stand
him, he won, he won. they at least win the primary, even if they lose the war. can i ask you a question? you certainly can. i don t think i want you to. by the way, happy birthday. what s your question? the economy has been getting better for a couple years. i mean, it s slow, right? we re not booming but we ve been getting better. do you think the economy is still job one for any candidate? oh, my god, yes. is it always even if it s good times? people don t feel like it s getting better because long-term unemployment, as steve talked about. even without the long-term unemployment, real wages have been dropping. big banks are still big banks. bigger than they were. too big to fail has gotten even bigger. you look at working class americans, they ve been losing the battle for decades now. yeah, this is economy is job one. and it s got to be more than just pointing at the last guy because this is a 20-year,
30-year systemic problem. i think there a lot of reasons to be excited. i m very excited about the energy revolution, about manufacturing coming back. as steve said, it s not going to be coming back at $35 an hour, it might be $16, $17, $18 an hour, but i d rather have it here than in china. china is having problems with growth as well, down 7%, 8%. china is not going belly up but at the same time, you re starting to hear people in america to say, wait a minute, it s starting to cost me more to send my jobs over to china. you get the shipping to get back, general electric we re talking about. you have the innovatiowvatio. i wouldn t trade this economy for any other one in the developed world. that said, as you said, joe, wages aren t going up, huge long-term unemployment, 6.5% for those even looking for work.
this is the number one issue. but there s two ways, without get too long wonky, there s two problems, cyclical and structural. this is structural. agree with you. if it is structural, who can fix it? how do they fix it? we talk about slicyclical, b look at the last two bump-ups. the late 90s it was fueled by the nasdaq, it went bust, people too excited about it and in 94, 97, you had the tech bubble. as our good friend paul krugman said, he wanted a housing bubble to replace the tech bubble and it did. for the past 20 years, we have been fueled by bubbles. this is what worries economists. it s like a heroin addict. each time you need a bigger and bigger dose to get some kind of
recovery to get some kind of growth happening. we re still in a cyclical phase but there are structural issues and someone has to take them on. so, julie pace, you have an article about pushing for data, and new privacy laws. tell bus that. this is something the president called for as part of the larger nsa review. it s what s referred to as big data, which basically means all the information that the government, that private sector companies pull on all of us. and there s a lot of concerns about what happens to this data. and one of the really interesting things in the white house report, which was overseen by john podessa, obama s new counsel, he found there s a real risk of discrimination. as people collect this information, they know an awful lot about us, and they fear this
information could be used to discriminate against people in things like financials decisions and housing decisions. it makes a lot of sense when you think about all the information we pump out about ourselves in social media and every form we fill out. it tells people about our age, our race, our gender. it s scary to think how that can be used against us. of course, mark leibovich, they follow around our habits on the internet, which is extraordinarily dangerous. extremely. no, we would never ultimately, this is about disconnect. when you talk about the economic numbers, one of the reasons people are sort of taken aback by this is these economic factors have not really touched washington, d.c. the last couple of decades. what state has the highest percentage of millionaires? washington is the wealthiest metropolitan area. name one major corporation
based in maryland. lockheed martin. d.c. in maryland state. the washington post post company i don t work there anymore. d.c. you get my point. the money. we have this gilded age going on and a lot has been inflated by the government and a lot of growth around government. i guess this is a good time to plug my back, right? do it! now out in paperback, this town is actually about this gilded age in d.c. we have the white house correspondent dinner this weekend so it s the perfect timing. everybody should walk around with this town as they walk around to see who is there. mark leibovich and julie, thank you very much. and mark, we ll have you back in about 12 minutes when the unemployment numbers are
reported, am i correct about that? yes. and coming up, does separatist really mean russian forces? rick stengel and fred kempe join us. but first here s bill karins with a check on the forecast. let s go talk about what happened this last week as far as the amazing video was concerned, we saw all the devastation in penpensacola, tornadoes. and then there was this out of baltimore. [ screaming ] this was taken from someone s porch. railroad tracks below the little river that turned into a gushing river in baltimore. unbelievable scene there. and there s this opposite view of it. literally, the houses, they re telling people they may not get back in their homes for weeks until they stabilize or literally build a new retaining wall.
let me take you to where we are now. we saw not just the east, the west had an unbelievable hot stretch. it was 95 degrees yesterday in san diego. that was the hottest temperature they ve ever seen in may by five degrees. and the drought in california continues to get worse. we have a drought that s getting worse in kansas, oklahoma and texas. it s just been a lot of extremes. the eastern half of the country has been wet and stormy ey eve since the winter and the west warm and dry. tampa and orlando, you re going to get rained on in some portion of your day. showers from minneapolis and chicago. as we go into saturday, there s not a lot of bad weather to be found. we re nice even into sunday. there are no more extremes. and the kentucky derby is going to go off as we go throughout saturday. for the derby itself, you couldn t ask for a better forecast. more morning joe when we come right back.
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here with us now, undersecretary of state for diplomacy, rick stengel at the table in his new position and president and ceo of the atlanta council, fred kempe. good to have you on the show. first of all, happy birthday. as you know, i have so much affection and love for mika, that i changed my birthday to
mika s birthday. i have a cake for you. have some. how s the job going? it s great to you have back in a different capacity. i was telling the guys here i was just in burma and malaysia. it s fantastic. burma is a great opportunity for american public diplomacy. you know i m going to put this in before you go to whatever you want to talk about. it may be mika s birthday and my birthday today but tomorrow is world press freedom day. the united states government is on the side of journalists oppressed everywhere. journalists are more oppressed today than any time in history. vladimir putin one of the terrible offenders through the years of press freedom. a lot of reporters who have reported on him have ended up dead. 99 journalists were killed in the line of duty last year. what s changed is journalists
used to get harmed in the line of duty and now they re targeted by governments. that s disturbing. speaking of vladimir putin, we have now a helicopter shot down in ukraine. vladimir putin ordering the ukraine government to get their own forces out of their own country. what s next in this downhill spiral? thank, joe. i had a conversation with a pretty senior figure in the obama administration today. i said what s going on? and he just come back from the region and he said, fred, it s just like jurassic park. he s a history guy and loves preworld war ii history. he said i ve been studying bones and now the dinosaurs are awake again, it s so exciting. what s happening in this latest attack is we re seeing the unraveling of something much more sophisticated. putin is not bare knuckled.
he doesn t need to invade. he s been oozing across the border with special forces and insurgents. he s been using psychological operations. he doesn t want to send tanks across because that would unify the west. that would really take the camouflage off of him. what ukrainians are doing is they re calling putin s bluff by trying to clear out these areas like in donetsk. if he comes across with more conventional forces, that will unify the west and help them enormously. what we learned today is protesters can t fire shoulder-held missiles. this is definitely special ops, well-trained troops. 25 of them go to the building, take it and bring in local activists, go to the next building, take it and bring in local activists.
and of course john kerry went to the atlantic council and ripped putin s russia over the ukrainian crisis. what can we do? you look at the wall street journal and unfortunately angela merkel is sending a message, my top corporations don t want anymore involvement. i agree with fred, it s russian special operations. they re illegal and violating of the geneva agreement. but there are new sanctions that are potentially being prepared. i mean, i think the u.s. is looking at ratcheting it up to match what russia is doing there, but what we really want is for them to de-escalate the situation. but when you look at the record of sanctions, rick, through history, going all the way back to cuba and rhodesia
and all these places, when they work, it takes a long, long time. i would argue putin is making fundamental errors that in the long run are detrimental to his country. the president has said there s no military solution to this so you have to look at alternatives. but you re being rational. assuming putin is rational. i don t think we should be irrational because he s irrational. no, but we have to find something rational to do. one of the problems with sanctions here is reports out this morning that russia is not being punished at all by these sanctions. the ruble has gone up and their markets have gone up since the sanctions were announced. does this suggest we need to send tougher signals to putin s russia? there s no doubt there have to be tougher signals. it was interesting, we did have secretary kerry at the council this week, vice president biden
and kerry was strong but he was strong prime i recall that we wouldn t give away an inch of baltic s territory as they are nato partners. he didn t go so far with ukraine. the problem with sanctions, it s a total new battlefield now where we are using sanctions not to punish the russian for what they re doing but as military deterrence to stop them from what they might do. it s clear the sanctions aren t sufficient to do that or the threat of further sanctions. part of the problem is how dependent europe is on russian energy. we re looking at this wrong. it s not about the ukraine. it s about the future of russia, a nuclear arms state. this is going to go on for years, it s a long game. we re looking for the future of the international system. we re at an inflexion point that could be just as important as the end of world war i and end of world war ii. if we don t shape the international system, then less benevolent actors will step in to do that and that s what we re seeing in ukraine.
thank you, rick stengel i have a gift for mika. this is flashlight held by the great singer of ukraine where she turns it on, thousands of people turn it on and she sings the ukrainian national anthem this weekend. we honored her this weekend and we had about 800 of these in the audience. there s a nice little bow on it. huge jobs numbers just came out. thank you fred, thank you steve. that is lovely, fred. thank you. will finally this be the month for economic recovery? steve has given us a sneak peek. huge job numbers coming up on morning joe. talk about a dream nature lover. people person.
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breaking news. the jobs numbers are a big story this morning. brian, what are they? i don t use the word spectacular much, except to describe you, mika. i m going to use it for this report here. 288,000 jobs. are you serious? of course i m serious, and don t call me shirley. unemployment dropped to 6.3. labor force participation rate, the number of people in the workforce or looking for a job rose as well. professional business services added 75,000. hold on
labor force participation rate dropped. the number of under employed people stayed steady at 7.5 million. but 288, can you knock the number? it was going to be 220 and this a really good number. and the revisions for february and march were also very good. steve, there have been so many reports over the past three years that we ve looked at and they ve been disappointing, they ve sort of been flat. this is one of the best slices of good news at least you can always fudge a 6.8 or 6.5. 288,000, that s a real number. that s something to be excited about for middle class people, working class people trying to get back into the workforce. it s an exciting number and it going to be an exciting number in the white house and for a lot of democrats trying to get reelected this fall, if the trend continues. 250 would help us get out of
this quagmire, right? we ve been receiving this anemic push up and down in the hundreds. 250 is where we needed to be and above to show that we re in economic recovery, that it s stabilized. that s right. 200 kind of keeps us whole because of people coming in the labor force. 250 is actually a move in the right direction. now 288. it s the biggest number we ve had in a long time. average hourly earnings also creeping up again. it just goes up a few cents. it s saying there s demand for your services. if somebody has to pay you more, it s because they think somebody else might be able to take your job or there s competition for the job so that s exciting. it s such good news that we baked a cake because we anticipated a 288,000 number. how is it? it s very good. you re having a taste? wow. i m going to go for a slice.
since you guys are eating, i m going to go over the numbers. to steve s point, the last month was revised over 200,000 as well here. keep an eye on that. i said that the economy had been getting better for about three years and rattner, you were p pooh-poohing all over me. talking about pooh-poohing is not the way to go on the set. oh, my god, i love jim gaffigan. and who knows where, joe, the conversation will take us. there is the vegetarian hot pocket for those of us who don t want to eat meat but still would like diarrhea. hot pocket
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and we have jim wallis, author of the uncommon good. jim, always good to you have here. let s talk about a friend. you wrote a tribute to your friend glen stassen, who passed away. you write in part, he taught us all the meaning of jesus and the new order jesus brought into the world. he showed us what it meant to live by the values of that kingdom without ethical equivocation, false dualism or political compromise. no american theologian taught us more about jesus and what it truly means to follow christ than glen stassen. he was a formative influence to students around the world, many of whom are also professors today and all of whom were mentored and not just taught by glen. glen kept calling us all to go deeper into our faith and we will with his ideas, his passion
and his spirit. that s beautiful. talk about your friend. i remember a tall, thin young man came to visit us at sojourner s community in washington, d.c. he wanted to live with us and help us serve the poor. he said i m a professor of ethics at the seminary. we were very close friends. everywhere he went, he talked about jesus. not just believing in jesus, but following jesus. that was something i loved about glen. he always talked about jesus. this is what it really means to be an evangelical and why pope francis has touched us all so much because he wants to talk about jesus. that s what glen stassen did. no theologian of his time thought us more about following christ than glen stassen. i m flying taught his funeral
and we ll give tribute to a man who taught us what it means to be an evangelical, to follow jesus. obviously what you and others were taught by him is probably con it and in your new book the uncommon good, how the gospel brings hope to a divided world. tell us about that. joe, you know this town, you were in congress. we ve lost this ancient idea of a common good. the last talk hi with glen is about what i think is the moral test of our politics right now, he and i talked about this, the passage of immigration reform, which is a common good. it s keeping families together. it would help the economy, it would all that. but it would keep families together. so john boehner said this week glen would have been pleased with the speaker saying we elect officials to solve problems. i agree with speaker boehner. that means we have to fix this broken system now.
as you know, this week 250 evangelicals, many inspired by glen stassen, came to washington to talk to more than a hundred congress people and they said we have to fix this now, this summer. we can t wait any longer. too much suffering is occurring. that s what glen would have said. he would have said in the middle of left, right, democrat, republican, what does it mean to follow jesus and serve the common good? jesus said love your neighbor as yourself. that s the spiritual foundation for the common good. certainly if you talk about a common good, too, you and i probably disagree on a lot of issues and probably disagree on immigration reform and what shape immigration reform should take. but, my gosh, you and i both want what s best for this country, you and i both want what s best for this world. if i m a progressive and you re a tea party member, you re a
liberal, i m a conservative, i think that s the greatest breakdown is we can t even sit down and have faith that the other person wants what s best for this country, even if we disagree. i remember you had myself and richard land on, a southern baptist and sojourner talking about immigration reform. we disagree on many things you but on that issue we had really come together. let s have a debate about key issue, but we don t trust each other enough, we don t trust each other s intentions enough. the nation is looking for its leaders to solve problems, and glen would talk about how jesus inspires us to i would say don t go left, don t go right, go deeper. go deeper. that s what glen always taught us how to do. and we can follow his legacy and quite frankly also the book, the uncommon good sounds like washington could use, or all us. reverend jim wallis, thank you so much. it s really, really nice to you have on the show. always a blessing to be with
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welcome back to morning joe. it s time to talk about what we learned today. i learned you turned, what, 26? 27? happy birthday. oh, stop. i m 47. thank you all. never looked better indeed. 47 s looking good. thomas, what did you learn? i learned that the folks, the good people in michigan hate
classic art. why do they hate art? oh, no, no, that s not art. it s an orgy. it s a bunch of people doing bad things to each other. they re holding each other up! that s an orgy. it takes a village. the road is long thomas, please. i have high taste in art. high taste in something. steve rattner. i guess i learned we had a good jobs number for the first time in a long time. here s to that, from 1-800-flowers. mark? i learned i could tweet about mika s birthday forever. i m endlessly fascinating tweeting about your birthday. and i ve done that. even after the show i ll be doing web extra. thank you. it is friday. this week is completely over and it s time now to turn a page. happy birthday to you, happy
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early. morning joe starts right now. this book is 656 pages of shameless name dropping. jim? tanz mean prime minister ma zin go pin dand i do some planting at a women s cooperative in. she just happened to be hanging out with many zen go in lamb deez zi. not impressed. there was no way on earth one woman can be in so many places at once. [ cheers and applause ] hillary clinton. now who s a name dropper, stephen. really? name dropper, that s not what my
good friend tom hanks calls me when we re hanging out at george clooney s place. i loved george. i wish i could have joined her when i had lunch with merrill street and raphael pereira. oh, raffy is such a cut-up, especially when we go camping with oprah. oh? does that surprise you? no, o is what her real friends call her. i know paul mccartney. i negotiated with hamid karzai. i shared an office with steve carell. i ve held high level talks with chinese state counselor. well, now you re just making words up. i will have you know, madam, i once did an entire show with
president bill clinton. i hate to break this to you stephen, but i ve met him, too. good morning. it s wednesday, august 6. good stuff. she did great. she looked great. she was funny. she should take him on in the stump if she runs. former communications director for president george bsh nicolle wallace. contributor john heilemann, political writer for the new york times, nicholas poff sorry. i ve said it a zillion times. also in washington, white house correspondent for the wall street journal carol lee. i want to thank all of you to join us this morning. a lot to talk about. of course, the news out of afghanistan, just devastating for the military and it continues. this is the front page of the
wall street journal. it s the lead there. also the lead story in the washington post. it s the lead story in the new york post. everybody talking about that. we ve got that to cover and an awful lot more this morning. but this morning let s start with the pentagon investigating that attack in the military base northwest of kabul that left a two star army major general dead. that s the highest ranking american killed in the iraq or afghanistan wars. in fact, you d have to go back to 1970 in vietnam to have another officer with that high of a rank killed. 55-year-old major general harold green was the second highest american serving in afghanistan. he saw the transition efforts to hand over to afghan troops. other coalition officers were at camp tuesday when an afghan soldier opened fire, seriously injuring several before being killed by return fire.
the 15 wounded they included eight americans, two british, one german and four afghans. these insider attacks as we all know have been largely on the decline as international presence has started to wind down. in 2012 is when it was the worst here. the two attacks so far this year. to talk about it more let s bring in nbc news military analyst, retired general barry mccaffrey. first i have to ask you what are you thoughts about the tragedy in afghanistan? a huge loss, very talented officer, phd in political science, one of our real technical experts. remember this comes on top of 22,000 plus killed and wounded in afghanistan. there s been a pretty bloody conflict. i think the lack of transparency in reporting these insider attacks is something we ought to
be concerned about. we re only talking about the ones that result in u.s. killed by the insider attacks. there are many more than this actually occurring. a huge chasm of trust opening up between the afghan security forces and the nato forces. so tell us what we re not hearing. why are these attacks being swept under the table? i think a lot of it, of course, is just an understandable feeling and a part of the isap nato headquarters. they don t want to accentuate the growing insecurity throughout the country. the reason i make a point of this, joe, looking forward, 10,000 troops spread out in small packets across the country. our combat forces zero out, very vulnerable, not just killed and wounded but abduction. it s a policy process we ve got to think really carefully about. what s the best way forward?
at the end of the day afghanistan is going to make it based on afghan people, political leadership, police and army. a robust u.s. embassy with a lot of u.s. marines around it, maybe holding open the airfield at bagram is what we should be doing and not thinking about an enduring presence throughout the country. this is an ethnic civil war that we re unlikely to change substantially with a 10,000 person footprint. general, we were talking about the logistics of how this would work. we are working hand in hand, literally that s how our soldiers are handling this. how would it work? would you envision our troops staying in a secure facility or embassy and troops will come in for technical training or for strategic training, how would the interactions work under what you envision sf. i m less clear on how it
would work than the valabilities of leaving packets of troops all over afghanistan. right now we have intelligence officers throughout the country. they do pretty well. remember they re backed up by not just combat forces of the u.s. army, but also medevac helicopter support, all that s going to disappear as we drop to a very small footprint. again, i think we have to rethink that policy. we ought to find out how many of these inviteder attacks are occurring that don t result in deaths. we ve got a giant lack of trust going on at the lowest level between afghan police and army and nato forces. general, before we go, i need to ask you about this. obviously afghanistan on the front pages of all the newspapers today. over the past several weeks we ve been seeing on the front pages of all the newspapers israel and gaza. before that syria would bump in
and out. it seems to me, though, when i talk to military men and women, foreign policy analysts, they say the most dangerous thing happening on the globe right now is not even in the ukraine, it s in iraq, it s in syria, it s i.s.i.s. you ve been there. you fought there. do you agree right now that what s happening with i.s.i.s. is something americans should be paying closer attention to? well, it s just another indication of an enormous shift. these post world war i boundaries in the middle east didn t make any sense on religious and ethnic grounds. there s going to be a readjustment. it s going to be bloody, take ten years to sort it out. at the end of the day we re more likely to see kurds and shia, if they don t trust each other, historically they re well argued that they shouldn t. inside iraq, for god s sake, when sunnis had control of the
country, they slaughtered hundreds of thousands. general barry mccalf free, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate you coming in. thank you. you see the polls yesterday? almost makes you feel bad for the president. it makes me feel bad for everybody. it s bad everywhere. the president at his lowest approval rating ever. congress at its lowest approval rating ever. the republicans are hey, this is great for republicans, because the president is at his lowest ever. 75% of americans think we re going in the wrong direction. hey, republicans 80 seals, 90 seats, maybe 1,000 seats. hold on a second, r approval rating is at 19%. democrats are at 32. not much better. holy cow. this is like the friends and family plan. friends am family report what s
happening in congress. republicans at 19%. the president horrible at 40. the president ain t running for re-election again. republicans still sitting at 19%. you ve had bill kristol. you ve had moderate becomes, me, you, a lot of people saying for two years now it is not enough to be against barack obama. you ve got to do more than investigate. you ve got to do more than spit on the ground and grumble and scratch yourself when you go back to your district and grunt and say i m against barack obama. shut down the government. you ve got to do something. they re at 19%. republicans, you can be pissed off at me if you want to. i don t know. it s the first republican elected in my district since 1873, won four landslides, won by 70%, 80%, i don t know, maybe i know something about this. i know you don t like when i talk about when i was in
congress. we love it. i love it. that s why you re on the set right now! that s the only reason. most of america can listen to you talk about that, the mood of the country would lift. oceans would part. sunshine and rainbows for everybody. let me tell you, at this point right now people would look back to this time as when the oceans receded, the earth began to heal itself. what else is he going to do for us? what else happened? the oceans would part, i think the big greek columns would be erected. the playing of frogs in washington according to those polls. but now the oceans is apparently not receding, locusts are coming from the heavens and eating the flesh of people in washington, d.c. look at the numbers, barack obama s approval rating 40%. a lot of people not happy about that.
54% disapprove. not sure, 6%. we have a couple more years of this going. you keep going through the polls. the other polls, nick, republicans sitting at 19%, democrats at 32%. republicans win the generic ballot, 42-43%. 44.3. this number is troubling, 36 approval on foreign policy, 60% disapprove. it shows when the world is a mess, as madeleine albright said, people hold the president responsible. you go down the approval/disapproval on foreign policy americans say we don t care what s going on in foreign policy, but boy when it s going bad they turn on the president. a lot is happening. there s a sense of the world is spinning out of control and the average person isn t quite sure why and they blame the president. i think the average person doesn t think the president
understands why. the public has lived through chaotic times. the public doesn t feel like the president understands. you look as the world is spinning out of control. i had a good friend say last night to me. things are crazy, what s happening? i m scared. this was a liberal democrat. you look at the approval ratings we just flashed up, 36% approve of the foreign policy handling, 60% approve. those are george w. bush numbers. yes. the difference being a lot of the disapproval around bush s foreign policy. be had hundreds of thousands of troops deployed. people. reporter: very anxious and very angry. what was the low of your approval rate sglg that was george w. bush minus 13 percentage points towards the end. about this time i think he was sitting about the same as barack obama. he started plummeting soon after that. the interesting thing about this is the point you just made,
in terms of practical consequences, no doubt the country is depressed and having a bad summer. that 43 to 44 congressional balance, it s not a wider spread, you ve got the cross-tabs of this poll saying not a wave election. this doesn t look like 2006, doesn t look like 2010. voters are not hugely motivated in looking toward the midterms. the people who thought this was going to be another big wave election seem on the basis of this poll to have been wrong. i don t know where the wave comes from. no galvanizing issue right now. or candidates. there s also not a group of candidates running on change or running on a new direction or running on a cohesive or understandable foreign policy. the republican party is pretty fractured. you don t have what you had in 2010 where you had a new force, new energy, the tea party movement comes in and all get swept in, the establishment
candidates winning last night. pat roberts, another establishment candidate. our insurgencies abroad are bad for barack obama. insurgencies at home for the gop are bad for the gop. there isn t a central organizing thing for anybody. moreover, when you look at this poll, at first i thought, this is like we re mad at everybody. it s two different houses casts potses on other houses. half of the people say i want to elect a congress that doesn t block the president. two different countries here and they re divided. carol lee, you cover the white house. what are they going to do over the next two years to turn this ar sflound we seem, do we not, when you re in there day in and day out, we seem to be stuck in a holding pattern? that s absolutely right. if you look at part of the
problem, i think, if you look at what the president is saying, what his message is publicly, there s a total disconnect between clearly what the american public feels and what he is saying is going on in the economy. on friday he came out and said things are getting better. clearly people don t feel that way. the president was campaigning, raising money in california a few weeks ago and he was saying people feel better than they did five years ago. some of the folks who were interviewed who participated in this poll explicitly said they don t feel better than they did five years ago. so i think what the white house has to contend with is how you match the president s rhetoric and how he s approaching the public on this issue with what you re seeing in this poll which is that people are not feeling good about the future. the 79% of people who think their kid s future is not going to be better than their own, that s a huge number. that is a massive number.
nicole, things aren t getting better. listen, the economy is getting better. i ve got a news flash for everybody. you don t feel it and it certainly maybe it s what ronald reagan said, a recession is when your next-door neighbor has lost their job. a depression is when you ve lost your job. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. the divide is sickening and continues to grow. but the situation for the middle class is far better today than it was two years ago, four years ago, five years ago. things are getting better. it doesn t show up in these poll numbers. and i wonder how much of that i m not blaming the president at all. i will. he s made it all political, joe. it s all political. this is a stylistic thing. the guy, i ll just say it, everybody that knows him, everybody that talks to him,
everybody that works for him says the guy doesn t like his job. he doesn t want to be there. he also makes everything political, even the good things. even when he goes out and talks about making community college less expensive. that s something more available to a lot of families than a four-year university, it s wrapped in politics. when he goes out and talks about income inequality or making taxes more fair for families, it s always wrapped in politics. don t all politicians do that? i don t think so. i think obama has taken it keep a straight face. i think obama has politicized things that previous presidents have not taken to such a political i think the trash talking, the den grading of republicans, every policy announcement in a political wrapper is a loser. john heilemann, what say you? there s a deeper thing going on. no doubt the economy is in a better place than it was three years ago and the unemployment
numbers are better and jobs are being created. in the end we still have flat wages in this country for the last 25 years and great inequality. people still feel that. the question about whether people think the world is going to be better for their kids and grandkids and about whether they see improvement, even if they have a job, they re not keeping up even with minimal inflation. 40% of people have someone in their household who has lost their job in the past five years. can you imagine how that echoes through the country? it s a sense of insecurity that is always there. it could be me next. even if you have a job, it doesn t mean your life is getting better. carol, you re right. there has to be great frustration for the white house. they see the economic numbers that look more positive than they were two, three years ago. and so does the president pivot back for the 28th time to a new job, hey, i m going to focus on
jobs now. it has to be extraordinary frustrating. is there any indication that he is going over the next couple years, especially if republicans win the senate, is he more inclined to have to sit down and strike deals with republicans that don t like him anymore than he likes them? well, they would tell you that he has been trying to focus on jobs and the economy, he s stuck to that message di des despite some criticism that he should be folk kug cussing on some of the foreign policy issues on the front pages of the newspapers. but i think there is a theory emerging out there that if the senate switches over to the republicans, that the president will be freed in some way and be able to sit down and cut deals with republicans without having nancy pelosi and harry reid pulling him further to the left and that he does want to cut deals and they would be able to get things like some of the trade policies that he s been pushing which drem kratz do not
like or tax reform, comprehensive tax reform. the republicans want that, or even immigration reform. they still hold out hope for that. so there s the silver lining, if there is one, and we re not going to see a wave election this year, the republicans will do well, and there s a good chance that the senate will go. but it seems like, you know, there s a possibility he could make some progress on some economic issues if it flips. carol, the worst thing that happened to bill clinton, new democrat bill clinton was he was strapped with some left wing democrats in congress that would stop him from moving to the senate. the second republicans took over in 1994, the guy spent the next six years striking deals and making things happens. who knows? you never know what happens in washington, d.c. and you never know what happens on morning joe. still ahead on morning joe, the nation s katrina vanden heuvel and ari fleischer join
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it makes me tired. nicole just don t hold back. i think rand paul had a very bad week. i think offending the dreamer on the stump. i think he s stitching together. mike, i ve said it before. i like rand paul, and if like yahoo! they want to do whatever they want to development i voted for his father in the primary in 2012. i you know what? i carry the scars. this guy is not going to be president of the united states, and in large part, i think it s because of his former positions, they re going to catch up with him, all the stuff that s gone in the past is going to catch up with him. one of those things, his position on aid to israel in 2011, it s a newly elected senator, he actually talked about cutting foreign aid to the middle east, and here are his
original comments. let s take a listen. you want to end all foreign aid as well, right? the other day, 71% of the american people agree with me, when we re short of money, when we can t do the things we can t do in our country, we shouldn t be shipping it overseas. what about the $3 billion that goes every year to israel. you want to eliminate that as well? i think what you have to do, when you send foreign aid, you send quite a bit to israel s enemies. it looks like egypt gets almost the same amount. really, you have to ask yourself are refunding an arms race on both sides. i also have a lot of sympathy and respect for israel as a democratic nation, as a fountain of peace and democracy within the middle east. but at the same time i don t think funding both sides of an arms race, particularly when we have to borrow the money from china to send it to someone
else, we can t do it anymore. never introduced any legislation that targeted israel in any way. spent the last three months trying to target aid to hamas and the palestinian authority. i think to print headlines saying rand paul wants to end aid to israel is just not true and inappropriate and really doesn t represent the truth. i ve spent three months trying to end aid to hamas. when you print an article, it s inflammatory and it s also trying to ask you a perception or develop a story line of me that s just frankly not true. it s frankly not true except for the fact that it s true. you go back and look at the clip. he says he s going to end all foreign aid. he includes israel in that. and again, mike, i like rand. i like a lot of the positions he stands for. he runs around saying he s going to end all foreign aid to
israel. we have to be grownups on the world stage. who likes foreign aid? none of us like foreign aid. guess what? you have to do it if you re running the free world. that s right, joe. you know you re in trouble when you re referring to your own words as inflammatory. that s going to be a problem. like paul krugman, when i quoted his words back to him, he s like, come on, these are sleazy tactics they re your own words. rand paul is in the same position. they re his own words. we have a piece up this morning, rand versus rand looking on his evolution on a variety of issues, drones, immigration. he was a senate candidate that once talked about having buried electrical fences at the border. of course, it evolved as he got in. his staff is he hasn t changed his position but come to realize what you can get done.
joe, a huge moment coming up for smat tore paul who has had a great spring and summer, doing well in the invisible primary of buzz, message, travel. he s in iowa right now. we learned that at the end of september, early october, he s going to give a speech on the topic that joe, as you know, is his biggest problem, the biggest hurdle to him getting the nomination, foreign policy is isolationist. he s going to give a speech at the national defense university where he s going to argue on the spectrum, be involved everywhere, be involved nowhere. he s smack in the middle with ronald reagan, george h.w. bush we shall see. sometimes candidates who underpass their past, look at me, i got elected to congress despite the four years i did in a turkish prison. they did a movie about it. wasn t it a great movie? what do you think the percentage of likelihood is that before the end of the year we ll see rand paul campaigning in a
yamaka? pretty high. he was in iowa. i m not knocking him. i m just you know what? this is what i do. this is what i do. i get paid a lot to be wrong. so i m sure i ll be proven wrong here. he s a fascinating guy. he s a fascinating candidate, and i think he has absolutely no chance to actually be elected president of the united states. we shall see. carol lee, thank you for being with us. thank you. hope you ll come back soon. sure. up next, you know what? she didn t seem too excited. she was like sure this is the last time. you ve already burned your bridges with the paul administration. two years before he becomes the 45th president, you ve already burned him. beat the rush. burn him down. i m right on this. i m right on this case. they ll forgive me. most people forgive me. isn t he right on the foreign aid.
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it s not going to be longer than that. this is my show. we ll be here for five hours. the herd is with me, colin cowherd is here. his mom when he was born said he shall be called the herd and he is. colin, thank you for being was. the book you herd me. i ll say it if nobody else will, is out in paperback next month. also here, mike barnicle. what s going on man? i m a huge fan of yours. that s awesome. you know what, my wife is in florida doing work. i said you re not going to believe what show i m on this morning. she said don t even do that. i said morning joe. i don t explain stuff, i show up
on tv. i don t know how it works. you just show up on stuff. so your friends, a buddy of mine, paul finebaum, at times the most hated man in the state of alabama. i love him because he says whatever he wants to say. you say whatever you want to say, man. paul and i get along. i was on his show yesterday. he s very polarizing. i tell people in the northeast, they love baseball but they don t get college football. guys, just think of fenway park and all the passions. like nine of those down near atlanta. that s what the south lives for. just respect and love their passion. it s the same in liverpool with their soccer teams. america is amazing. depending on the time zone you re in, the passion changes. in the south and paul is at the center of it, they live for that sport. listen. it ain t the nfl. we grew up with the nfl bed sheets.
we don t care about sunday. we care about saturday. you wake up on a saturday morning in nashville, huntsville, ever boyd has their sports page. they are in their restaurant or bar, it s 7:00 a.m. they re there to that cbs or espn game turns off at 11:30. you say this year, it taint sec going to win the national championship, it s going to be acc. you think fsu. i think florida state will meet up with oklahoma in a championship. i don t think they re as complete as alabama. they don t have to go to baton rouge. auburn s schedule is outrageous, the toughest college schedule i ve ever seen, especially october on. alabama has the most complete roster. i don t leave them yet at quarterback. i think georgia is really good. if you look at florida state through the acc, i think they ll mow through it. oklahoma will lose one game but find their way to it. out west, i think ucla will escape. the sec deserves in my opinion two teams in this forum.
it s like the electoral college. the reality is based on population ohio is more important than rhode island, california is more important than maine. based on the population in the south and their high school players that go to sec schools, they deserve more votes and more people in the college football play-offs. they should have two a year until somebody proves what are the reasons i can t watch the nfl anymore? i ll watch occasionally. i m sorry, the guys are just they look roided up man. you ve got these guys that weigh 800s, they run four two forties. why is it that baseball does the right thing and police themselves but nobody else does. it s almost like baseball cut themselves off at the knees. they should have dragged the nfl with them and everybody else. the george mitchell report when baseball said we re going to get george mitchell and find
out who is using, i said on my radio show, i thought it was an absolute horrible decision. here is our laundry, we ll hang it out. nobody else does. baseball by far and away now has the best system. people do a more moderate version of testing. the reality is baseball is, once again, what is the national narrative this morning on baseball? there s a user, a seller, anthony bosch. we re not talking about the race. last night yankees tsh tigers. the american league east is wide open and we re talking about anthony bosch. shouldn t the nfl do what major league baseball has done? you re really i can just sense that. i want to. it is an unnatural sport. tim miklaszewski who is the pentagon sport. he used to do radio. tom landry was looking at how fast and big everybody is getting, tom landry said this isn t my game anymore, it s too
dangerous. this isn t the game i started with. roger goodell has tried to limit shots above the shoulders and has been panned by his own players for it. the nfl totally understands. the concussion issue is the one issue that can bring down the league. you have a powerful company, it s lawsuits or certain things that can bring down a company. in the nfl it s the concussion issue, they re trying to lessen the injuries. the reality is high school players are bigger, steroid use is up in high school, college players are bigger, the game is faster. now it s no huddle. now it s spread. there s a lot of issues here with injuries in the nfl. the bosch report, it was aimed principally that he was selling steroids to high school kids, not major league ball players, not nfl football players, kids, and that s where the root of the danger is. that s why you have to have stronger drug policies at that
level. i heard a story yesterday on radio, not sure where it was, that kids now are not just taking hgh, young boys, for football, they re taking it to just look better. they just want to look better. hey, old dudes are doing that. you see these 65-year-old guys you never see donny deutsche? they re out here. you think barnicle s physique is natural? everybody is taking hgh. the juice is loose. you re not a user or believer yourself? no, i m not. i m a believer in the lord. you look great. i do. you should see barnicle without a shirt on. it s something. you guys are both, despite this hectic life, you both really have aged well. [ laughter ]. i ask you this question, so i don t watch the nfl on sundays anymore. i m an sec guy and european
football. i love the epl. i ve got to ask you about mike francesa. is he still over at fan? yes. i saw him one time working at cbs for a couple years calling football games. alabama is playing boston college and he says, like when boston college is going down the field, if we don t get a first down here, we re in trouble. i love this guy. he falls asleep. it s awesome. he s a runaway beer truck, as we say in the south. remember what he was saying? they use both of their feet? he s old school, and he loves baseball, that s great. he loves the nfl. he does a fine job. but i kind of poked him in the ribs the other day, he asked a soccer guy on the other day, can they kick with both feet? soccer is not going away. memo to ann coulter, the
american media talk show host for a variety of reasons, fifa sales are up, espn and fox are all in. can i ask you this question, can we execute seth blatter? i don t like him. the biggest issue with the sport from the american perspective isn t necessarily the scoring. it s not. baseball and hockey. it s fluid. there s a lot of movement. the bigger issue is we don t really trust it s the flopping. a little bit. we don t trust fifa. when you ask sports fans, it s like waste disposal in some cities. who is running it? who is making money on it? so that s the big issue. match fixing. i have no idea what you re talking about. yes, there is match fixing all over the place. fifa, they got to clean it up. ironically, it s the united states who some of them seem to loathe that is going to end up cleaning it up. the big sponsors who want to get
involved don t want to get involved in a corrupt sport. soccer is not going away. i understand that. how does it prosper? we re not a 1-0 country. there s connective tissue on why it will work. years ago when i was done, i came home i was down. now my dad played, more connectability. now i can play in more leagues. i can buy merchandise. it s everywhere. by the way, we have an explosion in this country. latino explosion in some cities. we now have the mls is profitable, ten teams are profitable. four need bigger stadiums, seattle, kansas city, portland. they re doing well. it s never going to be the nfl and it will probably never be baseball but it is getting bigger. all the kids are playing the video games.
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nicolle wallace is here with us. former white house press secretary ari fleischer, sports communications ari fleischer. i think i need to be better friends with this guy to get tickets. editor and publisher of the nation katrina vanden heuvel. you checked your calendar because you have a morning joe calendar up in your kitchen and it s been a year. it s been a year? we ve missed you. well, i m back. great to have you back. thank you. we need your husband in here, too, to talk about russia. yes, a lot to talk about. also former white house communications director and now managing director of skd anita dunne. good to see you, too. great to see you, joe. how are you? i m doing wonderful. i heard you say you don t want to go on vacation. it s obviously different from
congress or anybody in washington. you can tell you re in new york this morning. actually i am in new york. i think i go on vacation more than congress. i m glad to be here now. i love being here. i want to bring all of you together here for us to break bread and talk about the meetings of some of the most depressing poll numbers ever. we ve got new nbc news/ wall street journal polls to run through. let s start with the president and we ll start there and go line by line by line. if you re at home and you re going, oh, this is going to skew against barack obama, joe is a republican, he s so biased. don t worry, it s even worse news for republicans. let s start with obama, job performance. 40% approval rating, 54% disapproval. this next full screen explains so much. obama foreign policy, 36%
approve, 60% disapprove. anita, let me start with you. you worked at the white house. obviously you have tons of friends inside the white house. we re a long way from hope and change. we re a long way from those greek columns, from all the promise of 2008. it s looking fairly grim inside the white house with these numbers. what gives? obviously it s a summer full of challenges for the white house and for the world internationally as well as continued challenges at home. i think what you ve seen the president do is do as much as he can, and he will continue to do as much as he can despite a congress that, as you rightly pointed out, is far more unpopular than he is and frankly is refusing to do just about anything. they re giving the phrase do nothing a bad name. i think both internationally and hear at home, he s doing what he can do and internationally, i think if you look at what s going on, that the president is continuing his policy of
diplomacy and of leadership without committing troops everywhere. that is actually i think very much in line with what the american people are looking for. ari and nicolle, you worked for presidents with low numbers. what s going on? our pitcher is getting shelled and not able to throw anything over the plate. it s not the problem he s doing what he can. it s what he s not doing that s gotten him into so much trouble. what is he not doing? i think two fundamental things that. first is the failure to get the big budget deal with john boehner. it set off the tenor of nothing is going to happen in washington. whose fault was that? everything accumulates up. the president is always the one that has to lead and get things done. democrats would say republicans were out to make him fail from the very beginning. the second big issue where he didn t get something done is where he drew the red line in syria and failed to act.
that sent a bad signal particularly in the middle east where people didn t think america was going to get involved or back up our words with any deeds. if you look around the middle east, one of the reasons there s so much trouble in the polling numbers, there s a sense that the president isn t up to handling any of these challenges. katrina? i think there s a fundamental disconnect between the inside the beltway pundit polling class. you re not skewing bias, but history. first of all, these poll numbers are not as low. we ve seen others over the last few years. americans want to engage with the world, but they don t want to listen to the armchair warriors. they don t want there wasn t a great gusto to go into syria. there isn t a gusto to go into ukraine or get too involved in the middle east. i think we need to step back and understand there s a wisdom among the american people in that front. i also think that for president obama, though i ve said this before, it s the worst of both worlds. americans say in polls, don t get involved.
you don t get involved and bad stuff happens and you re to blame for that, too. i think of the president i have a lot of issues with the president on foreign policy, but i think he has made a decision that america cannot police the world without detracting from the resources it needs, for the real security of people at home and dealing with security challenges. we agree a lot on that front. i m saying the great irony is a less involved america is a america that can t control what s going on out there, and he pays for doing what the american people tell them they want them to do. that goes to the big thing in the poll. america can t control the world s destiny anymore. of course we re a major power, but we re not, quote, the indispensable nation. i think a lot of americans may be having trouble dealing with that. the big number in the poll is americans believe the country is going in a wrong direction and losing faith in their political institutions. this isn t new. if you ve been watching cnn,
the sixties, let s go back to vietnam and the assassinations of king and bobby kennedy, look back at the summer of watergate. this country has experienced crises of confidence in their government. are we allowed to say thoegs cnn documentsry are awesome! like the music one i m going to say it. i just gasped. i sat there i don t want a lot of tv, especially prime time tv. i m on tv and flipping around. joey they ve got brian wilson, i ve never seen this. i m going to get in trouble. those are awesome! some of us were too young to remember the 60s. i was glued at age 13. katrina brings up one, 70% of
americans say we re going in the wrong direction. 80% of americans say d.c. is going in the wrong direction. in the 60s there was the chaos in the street. in the 70s, an ugly decade, too, you still had a washington that works. it doesn t work anymore. why doesn t it work? it doesn t work because the republicans have refused to govern. get her, nicolle. i like her too much. they have made destruction their mode of governance. i was talking to carl bernstein and others last night. did carl bring up mccarthy? part of watergate had to do with the republican party who said good buy to nixon. barry goldwater walked into nixon s office and said it s not going to work anymore. you had a republican party that had moderate wings. this is a tired dispute. we know this now. what do we do with a country that is in gridlock? you have to also say that the problem is the center has been hollowed out over the left and the right. this is an important point to bring up. then i ll be quiet.
if you look at democrats elected since 2006, they re far more progressive now. the joe liebermans are gone. there s been a hollowing out. in the house there s been a hollowing out because of gerrymandering which is just horrific. in the senate there s a natural hollowing out. there aren t people in the middle that can bring the left and the right together. president bush had senator kennedy and john mccain to work with. he was able to govern. you may not have liked the things he did. he did govern and did have some partners, not a lot. but some partners in the democratic party when it came to education and immigration. there were people to talk to. i d like to ask anita if she thinks the way president obama governed makes it easier or harder for hillary clinton to mount a campaign for the presidency. i think everything president obama has done, he s basically run a global experiment to see what would happen if america completely withdrew from the world stage and didn t exert any influence. he said he doesn t believe in
the embodiment of american exceptionism. he says he doesn t believe america has a role to play. i think while americans don t want to see troops on the ground, they do want to believe america can make a difference. but part of not approving of his job and foreign affairs isn t just that we don t like what s happening in the world. we don t like that president obama acts like there s nothing america can do. so, anita, you always hear the generals are always fighting the last war. has there been an overcorrection? if there has been, i think a lot of americans would say it s understandable, after ten years of war, after ten years of occupation, an overcorrection may be in place here. i m a little surprised to hear nicolle mouthing the republican talking points. i love when people say that. thank you. i was going to say nicolle
i m going to help you with your base. please accuse her again of being a republican. we ll say it one more time and you can put it in your resume. here is the thing which is, if you look at this, this idea that somehow this administration and the president are disengaged from the world is simply ludicrous. this morning, joe, we have leaders from over 50 nations in africa in time for a historic summit. by the way, that is a very important continent for the future. these are important relations for the united states in the future. secretary kerry who has successfully helped afghanistan negotiate a recount in their presidential election. we know a little about recounts here. no always that easy to do. you have diplomacy happening everywhere right now. the idea that somehow this president has disengaged from the world is so far nicolle,
let me finish. i want to go back to the republicans in congress. i was working on the hill in the bush administration, a big part of that time working with tom daschle, the democratic leader. the reality is the democrats worked with the bush administration. the republicans from day one made a decision that they weren t going to work with president obama, and i have to tell you it s a very different situation. i ve been on both ends of pennsylvania avenue there. anita, let s move on to congress, a perfect segue. nbc news/ wall street journal, they sur vaifd americans, americans came back when asked what they think about congress and their response was congress sucks. congress s job performance 14% putin almost got that high a number in this poll. 79% disapprove. ari, i have to ask you about this, there is my concern, it s your concern. a lot of republicans concerns.
party approval, gop, only 19%. 54% unfavorable. the dems sitting at 31%, almost double. how many times do we have to say this? republicans in the house have to do something. it s not enough to just pass bills that you know harry reid is going to kill. by the way, i blame harry reid as much as i blame the republicans. guess what? harry reid is not the party in opposition, the republicans are. we haven t made our case on why republicans should take control. you worked in the house when i was there. what do they need to do? what does john boehner need to do to break through with a positive message instead of, we re going to investigate benghazi, we re going to investigate the irs, investigate, investigate, investigate. we re going to sue. and yes, investigate them all, but you ve got to have policies that excite americans, too. i spent about 12 years in the house and almost six years in the senate. two points, one, the 2014
election is going to be just like 2006. it s a rejection election. 2006 was a rejection of george w. bush and his policies in iraq. 2014 is setting up the same way against president obama. so you don t have to as republicans politically speaking do much between now and the election other than win the election on the basis of anti-obama, but it s the day after. it could be a false narcotic for republicans. you could take the senate, probably gain a few in the house. it s the day after. republicans have to turn the corner. i m looking the see who the presidential contenders will be and whether they can speak as a more inclusive fashion. we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform and republicans should do it early in 2015. let s say republicans win the senate. when we won in 94, we can say these are the ten things we promised to do. dam it, we re going to fight and we re going to do it. we got 70% of it done. the day after john boehner gets re-elected, the day that mitch
mcconnell is speaker of the house if he wins, what do they say they stand for? like i just said, the first thing is comprehensive immigration reform, keystone open they might. everything is about might when you get to the congress. nobody can ever say what they re going to do. let me put it in a human context. what we ve witnessed is a republican party unwilling to pass long-term unemployment insurance. you have people in this country who look to congress, look to their representatives, look to government to assist when people are down and out to provide jobs that in this country today, people work full-time and still live in poverty is a scandal. i don t think that is a matter of left or right. i think it s a matter of right and wrong. i think this is something obama with his poll ratings not great, he has a three-to-one
advantage over congress which has refused to govern on behalf of people in this country. don t mean to interrupt you, katrina, only to make your point. guys, do we have the number of americans who support raising the minimum wage? here is some fascinating numbers. we re taking this out of the partisan context. nicolle, you look at things americans support the most? guess what? they re bipartisan. democrats will be very excited that the overwhelming majority of americans want the minimum wage raised. republicans will be very excited that the majority of americans want corporate tax rate cut. tax reform in general. but specifically they want corporate tax rates cut. democrats will be thrilled that the majority of americans want the top 1% to be taxed higher. 60% of americans want comprehensive immigration reform. 60% minimum wage and the overwhelming number of americans
are like me, they want us to invest in our infrastructure. by the way, any republican on cap hole hill that thinks you can run against bob byrd and his off-ramp to nowhere in west virginia, you re in the wrong decade. i ve given 400, 500 speeches on college campuses, et cetera, et cetera. i ve never heard one person say you re a communist, you needless investment in our infrastructure. how about our airports? our airports are crumbling, our bridges are crumbling. nicolle said something interesting about senator kennedy and senator mccain. you see eruption ofs what i call trance partisan coalitions. just the past week, sherrod brown and david vitter worked on banks too big to fail. two weeks before that on the va. and on the issue of how many
people in this country are disenfranchised because of drug arrests. by the way, i want to talk to the two republicans on the set here. that s me politely telling you to hold on one second. republicans have such a great opportunity to run against the big government and to run against big business. most americans want the banks broken up. most americans republicans want the banks broken up. republicans can t be seen as captive to wall street, and they re running against a woman, if she gets the nomination, that s captive to wall street. she and bill clinton are wall street. they are so intertwined. why can t we have candidates say break up the banks, don t give wall street advantages? why can t we punish corporations that take their offices overseas to avoid our taxes? they live here, they get the
benefits of being here. if you want to get denmark s tax rate, then you and your family have to move to denmark because you re not allowed to live here. if you live here, we re going to tax you. joe, i think you re seeing a lot of that, when you look at the republican desire to break up a bank that provides huge subsidies to major corporations so they can do business abroad. republicans are trying to do that. i think the fascinating dynamic that s going to change for our party, if hillary is the nominee, it s not going to be as much as a left-right fight as a future-past fight. republicans have the ability to paint hillary as the candidate of the past. i ll go back to katrina. we ll keep everybody here and anita, also. if i m a progressive, i can t be excited about hillary. she s intertwined with wall street. are you excited about the prospect of hillary clinton being the democratic nominee? no. i don t get excited about
candidates. good for you. i m excited about what i see as the energy right now in a part of the democratic party which is this progressive populist energy which isn t just elizabeth warren. i think it s that bill that pushes senator clinton, former secretary of state. to the left. not to the left, but to really listen to those. i don t want to make it partisan or petty. it s not about hillary clinton. it s about the future of this country and what i believe we will disagree what i believe is needed. people believe this country is moving in the wrong direction. they don t see people there is a recovery in this country, and i think a president should be marked on the subsive accomplishments we ve got to go to break. i want to ask anita, also, there is a recovery out there. i want to ask anita why that s not showing up in the polls. anita, ari, katrina stay with us. still ahead on morning joe,
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an neat tax let s finish up business from the last segment. let me ask you, you look at all the economic numbers, it looks like there s a recovery. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. we all have to figure out how to stop that. the middle class slowly making gains over the past year or so. why isn t that reflected in the polls? i think that the deposition of the recession and the fact that so many people are still feeling the effects of it comes through very clearly in the
poll. we just had our sixth month of job creation over 200,000, the most the lowest number of new unemployment claims since 2007. it is slow, though, and always been a very slow process. the poll shows for the first time since i think since the recession, that more people think that we re not in a recession than we are in one. let s be clear. for people the economy is personal. in washington they talk about it as policy. i think katrina talked about the disconnect. that s one of the biggest disconnects. i also want to go quickly to something ari said about a wave election. there s no signs this is a wave election out there. in 2006, the democratic party was an alternative to the republican party. that s how waves develop. 2008, a wave election, 2010 obviously a gigantic wave election. now you have a republican party that is the alternative to obama that has a 14% approval rating in terms of its congressional
leadership and policies. so i think it s a very different dynamic and it means a lot of these senate races in particular will be fought out on a state-by-state basis. i think you re absolutely right. i think tom cotton is ten points ahead. that s going to be a battle. luis nan is always a battle. we don t know what s going to happen in alaska. i think it s going to be a fascinating election. anita, thank you for being with us. we appreciate it and hope you ll come back soon. thank you for having me, joe. by the way, nicolle tell nicolle i said surprised for a reason. great to see you guys. great to see you, too. from domestic politics to israel, the 72-hour cease-fire between israel and hamas is now in its second day and appears to be holding. let s hold our breath there. people are out in the streets and the shops have reopened.
but there were early concerns when hamas fired rockets into israel five minutes before the cease-fire took effect. negotiations for a long-term truce are currently under way in cairo. with us from tel aviv, senior correspondent and member of the editorial board, ari, the author of my promised land. ari, we love having you on the show. thank you for being back with us. thank you for having me. we got into it on the set again yesterday with donny deutsch. it seems to me the great tragedy, for me looking at this from my safe cloistered view from the united states, the past month has seemed to strengthen hamas which i think is in nobody s best interest. do we, though, have a chance with hamas being forced to deal with egypt? do we have a chance for palestinian moderates to finally have their say and have a chance
to broker a reasonable deal? i think we actually do. when you look at the last months you realize that july in this country was the cruellest of months. we ve seen dark forces erupting and a real tragedy evolving. now the challenge is to bring about a much better august. the terrorists, the warriors, the generals that head the world, now it s time for the diplomats to be reasonable and wise and lead the way forward. let me tell you where i think things are, what we ve learned in this terrible month is two things. one, the gaza suffering which is unbearable. the second, israeli vulnerability which is unbearable as well. we have to deal with both simultaneously. the only way to do it is in a sense to lift some of the economic siege on gaza, but tie
the military siege of gaza. in the larger term i would say it s time for a marshall plan that will really rebuild gaza. power stations, hospitals, schools and give real hope for the people of gaza while fighting the fanatical extremist hamas and while disarming it. so only a double track policy which will give hope to the people of gaza, but will be very tough with hamas and will bring about a demilitarization of gaza, will give us hope. i think there s a chance for it. i m sorry. i was just going to say, this time for some reason, appears to be different. we heard yesterday there weren t anti u.s. slogans out in the streets of gaza. you had some people in gaza blaming israel, blaming egypt but also blaming hamas.
it appears that a lot of palestinians are ready to move away from this zero sum game. either they win or we lose. the question is, do you believe you ve written a lot about this, do you believe that benjamin netanyahu faced with this opening to actually empower moderates in palestine that will work towards a two-state solution, does he have the political courage to take that opening? i think there is a certain clans i m not very optimistic, but i think there is a chance. let me tell you what this depends on. as we ve seen, there are no saints in the middle east. yet i do believe there are good guys and bad guys. the good guys are the ones who love america and want stability. the bad guys are the ones who hate america and want instability. the good news is there is a potential alliance between the
good guys which is egypt, the moderate palestinians, israel, with the support of saudi arabia, the gulf countries and jordan. if we will work out a concept that brings together these moderate forces, none of them perfect, definitely some of our arab neighbors, i do not admire their democratic values and the way they treat their citizens and yet they are relatively moderate and want stability and they are with america, if america will lead a real coalition of moderate israelis, mad rat palestinians and sunni arabs, i think we can create a context in which hamas will be isolated. radicals of the region will be isolated and then the dark forces, namely iran, the islamic brotherhood, i.s.i.s., hamas, al qaeda, islamic jihad, all of these will retreat. the result right now has some promise in it, but the solution, as i told you last week is only a political one.
if we see assertive diplomacy, creative diplomacies, deals with the middle east as it is, i think there s reason for cautious hope. ari fleischer, there is reason for cautious hope because you look, and this is the first time this has happened. you do have uae, the gulf states, saudi arabia, jordan. you even have the palestinian authority. you, of course, have egypt who is playing a key role in this, you a lot of arab states that are also turning on hamas. 80% of the gaz sans before this attack began were turning against hamas. there is an opening if netanyahu and the moderate palestinians take it. i think you just put your finger on the changing winds of the middle east. ari, this is ari. i ve always wanted to say ari, this is ari. have you ever seen a potential realignment like this before in the middle east, especially
saudi arabia which has worked behind the scenes with israel over the past many years, vis-a-vis iran. have you ever seen a potential realignment where arabs are willing to work with israel against what is really radical islam in the form of hamas? i think there is a great potential. what we ve seen look, in the middle east, nothing is like what meets the eye. if you really want to understand the region, you have to understand everything is multilayered here. what you actually have seen in the last weekend is egypt, israel and the moderate palestinians working together to try to stop hamas, and it worked. this is what brought about the cease-fire. if we enlarge this concept, i look at it from america s point of view. america on the one hand for very good reason is sick and tired of the middle east, for very good reasons. on the other hand, there is no way to run from the middle east. if you run from the middle east, the middle east chases you.
we ve seen that in 9/11. the only sensible policy i see is for america to lead the alliance of the moderates that will bring some sort of stability to a deeply unstable region. i think if we see that, it will be good for the moderate palestinians for the people of gaza who will be different from hamas and gradually will move away from hamas. it will be better for all the moderates, for israelis, and it will serve america s interest best because it will give her the leadership it needs. as i told you, i think america is god s gift to humanity. america saved us all in the 20th century, and i wish america would lead us all in the 21st century. in order to do that, there is a potential of american leadership creating this alliance of moderates and giving some sort of reasonable modest hope to this trouble, violent region. ari, thank you so much. we love having you.
we hope you ll come back very soon. katrina, a great opening. july was such a horrid month, such a depressing month. as ari said, you do have arab states moderate arab states that used to say something behind the scenes and then say something completely different in their state-sponsored broadcast bashing america, bashing israel. is there a chance for moderate palestinians and israelis to come together with a two-state solution? ari said something important at the top of his interview which is, we ve seen the generals and the warriors, the military men and people. now it s time for diplomacy. but too often that diplomacy has been is undered, broken, by steps taken by israel, not in its own security. hamas, yes, on both sides war crimes have been committed.
but israel is a very powerful state. america is it $3 billion a year in military aid and others? at the same time he works . i want to say this country deserves a broader debate about israel. there s a richer debate inside israel about that. we re having that debate here. the media has not provided as much a little more of an opening this time around. but your debate here sounds like a one-sided debate. we have the ambassador to the united nations there s let me talk. let me talk. for the plo. katrina, you have to admit, you talk about israel. hamas fired 3,000 rockets into israel into civilian neighborhoods. you and i know if mexico fired one rocket across the rio grande, we would be in mexico
city nightfall and there would be people executed and the united israel must be secure, but have you seen gaza katrina katrina, i agree with you. but you re talking about an asymmetry in a debate, and i m telling you that we re trying to provide symmetry. but you can t just come here and say, well, gee, it s israel that always if you say to me the right wing in israel i feel has worked against the best security of israel. there s a great documentary called the gate keepers with five former leaders of the masad who worry katrina. undermined israel s security. katrina, the only thing anything is ace symmetrical is israel has been forced to play defense. if they weren t unable to shoot down those rockets, the death toll would be more than what has
happened in gaza. ari, gaza has been ravaged. who is going to rebuild gaza? that is the international community s mandated mission. we ve got to go to break. i have scars on my back for being down the middle on this. i am pro israeli. the reason i m doing it is because i m hearing my republican friends saying it and my conservative friends saying, my liberal friends saying it, people who don t give a damn about politics seeing what s happening in gaza, they ve said enough. we support israel. we want israel to be safe. but enough with the gaza suffering. i think that s exactly what ari said. he talked about a marshall plan. i support a marshall plan for the people of gaza, the oppressed people of gaza, oppressed by history and the terrible situation they re in. but i lay the blame of that oppression at hamas feet right now. we have an opportunity to
isolate hamas and give them hope. i think that s a symmetrical debate. we need a political solution, not a military one. i agree with you 1,000%, and i think there is an opening and i m hopeful hamas is being isolated. that s a great idea. we re going to be talking, speaking of symmetry, to the plo ambassador to the united nations coming up next hour. i know you ll stick around and wake up your children to see that with us. coming up next, boy, a book that has sparked debate. called the invisible bridge about ronald reagan, charges of plagiarism flying around back and forth, but by one of the best conservative historians over the past decade who happens to be a liberal. we ll be right back. vo: this i. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand.
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it s amazing stuff. with us historian rick pearlstein, the author of the invisible bridge. also with us in washington, professor of history at rice university, douglas brinkley, co-ed tore of the new book the nixon tapes. rick, first of all, huge fan of your first two books, nixon land and the invisible bridge. pat buchanan, bill kristol. if you want to understand american conservatism, it s a great place to start. this book is controversial. craig shirley, a good friend of moin and of this show, there have been charges about plagiarism, i guess the times talked about it. so there s passages that look like they re lifted directly
from some of craig s reagan books. what do you say? that s nonsense. we both used the word fess tune. i m calling it fess tune gates. what kind of plajist links source notes to the pages he s supposedly plagiarizing. a lot of the passages are the same. they re not the same. you re saying that put up the second passage. he thinks i got that from him. but actually i got it from an african-american paper, the atlanta world from 1976. and the thing that i write is completely richer. it s the second passage i think that your producer showed me was the one in which reagan was shown on camera laughing at what was going on at the convention reagan dissolved into laugher. what that doesn t show is
then in my book i say he dissolved into laughter and then he saw himself on the screen dissolving into laughter and stopped laughing when he realized it looked bad on tv. that s from my original research. craig s thing i thought i was friends with him. people should read his book. anyone who is interested in ronald reagan should read his book because it s a good book. he wants my pumped, shredded. it want his read. he s also a public relations professional. his clients are people like ann coulter. the first thing they did was send out a letter to their role decks saying people could join their offensive, that s the word, and rick is trying to put a new spin on reagan and he said we can suggest tweets that you can use. so it really strikes me that this is an ideologically motivated thing. we ll get craig on at some
point. maybe both of you on at some point. i would love to. i would really love to talk about this book. not to stay negative. like i said, i could not be larry king tweeted it was controversial and that s why he was reading it. again, your first two weeks i mentioned were extraordinary books. i thought you took a more negative tone toward reagan in this book. is that a fair assessment? i just kind of report what i see. what do you see? well, one thing i see, i write about this in the pref foss. it s very important to understand that opinions about reagan have always been divided. they ve been divided since he was in high school. i tell a story about how there was a cartoon in his high school yearbook making fun of him. some guy says, i m drowning, and
reagan goes out and saves him. the guy says, no, don t save me, i m trying to commit suicide. reagan says you ll have to postpone that. i m trying to win a medal. people saw him as this phony ever since then. but other people saw him as a hero that they wanted to i m late. in the preface i quote a letter from a woman who writes him who said you need to save the country just like you saved someone when you were a lifeguard. by the same token, i had a friend who couldn t bring herself to read the manuscript because she was still so mad at ronald reagan. the bottom line s i m trying to bring back the idea the fact that ronald reagan is a controversial figure that has always divided america. it seems you re more sympathetic to richard nixon more than ronald reagan. people have told me they came
away from the book more sympathetic to reagan. i don t know. i didn t go in with that agenda. it seems like reagan books are defensive voided in two. they either treat him as providential, put on earth to defeat the evil empire. i ve written a few of those. let s bring in doug brinkley. it s fascinating. people are still trying to get their arms around this man. we talked about what churchill would have said, he s still a mystery wrapped in a middle. there are parts of ronald reagan that i didn t know. absolutely. he s become a beloved figure. you have reagan national and all the rest. his presidential library is the most visited. the big reason everybody talks about reagan and generates
such interest is because we may be living in the age of ronald reagan still. by that i mean the two big political figures of the 20th century from pure politics was franklin roosevelt and ronald reagan. fdr told america that the federal government is there to help you. it was there to plant trees with the shelter belt in the depression and all of those you know, it s here to feed the poor during the new deal. it was here to do social security. and then the government won world war ii, the atomic bomb on the manhattan project, federal government, harry truman continued creating government. the nsc, the pentagon, the joint chiefs of staff, the cia. dwight eisenhower, interstate highway system, biggest public works in history. kennedy did the moon. all this federal government. even nixon creates the epa, jimmy carter fema and then reagan. the revolution comes in 81 and it s a roll back that reagan is talking about. rolling back the great society
and some of the new deal programs and that s where we are right now. rick. yeah, but he likes certain parts of government. he certainly liked the cia. he was on the rockefeller commission that investigated the cia and he was livid that they were taking on this part of the national security state that truman had started. so and of course when he was president he was quite pragmatic. he didn t roll back government like a lot of you guys had hoped. in fact conservatives all through his presidency had said reagan had sold out reaganism. bill buckley had to go to california in 1967 to defend ronald reagan against conservatives who said he was a sellout. what i m wondering listening to this is part of the root of the disagreement that other conservatives have with you and this book is that they are into mythdom. let s maintain mythdom about ronald reagan. it s far too early for him to be a myth. for the record, it s far to
early to say conservatives have turned against this book. i m just saying i m a huge fan of your first two books. i just thought you gave reagan tougher treatment than you gave goldwashington goldwater or nixon. i m reading the whole thing and conservatives should as well. let the readers judge for themselves, i guess. loo look, if this guy is the most important man to ever walk the planet, shouldn t we be studying him, warts and all? look, people have always been underestimating ronald reagan. richard nixon underestimated ronald reagan and william f. buckley said he couldn t possibly imagine this guy as president. but there s this great nixon tape in 1971, you know. nixon and kissinger are sitting around. i think nixon or kissinger says can you imagine ronald reagan sitting in this chair. and kissinger is like no way, he s going to start a nuclear war. that was 1971.
you can get it on youtube. two years later because he s such a rising political figure, they bring him in on the consultations and say we have a problem. egypt is exaggerating the number of israeli planes that they re shooting down. reagan says that s no problem. just announce that we re going to on a one for one basis replace every israeli plane that egypt says it shoots down and kissinger was like astonished at this guy s intelligence and he said i wish i had a guy like that on my staff. so i just brought that story into the public record. all right, very good. rick, thank you so much for being with us. congrats on the book. this discussion will continue and we ll see if we can get craig on and you guys can break bread together. duke it out. exactly, duke it out. the book is the invisible bridge. rick, thanks again. doug brinkley, thank you as well. coming up next, we re breaking on the latest nbc news/wall street journal polls. they are ugly for both sides.
chuck todd will be here but there s a ray of hope in the poll and chuck will tell us what it is. i have absolutely no clue. plus pretender or contender. one way or another rand paul is making an impression in iowa, and the global market is reeling. did you see this? they were reeling yesterday as russian troops assemble on the border of eastern ukraine. is this the first step before a larger act of aggression? is war coming in russia? morning joe will be right back.
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israeli troops today finally pulled out of gaza. was this a celebration of a victory or just relief at their return? uncertainty too whether hamas forces ensure no more rockets are fired into israel. we have to talk about demilitaryizing israel. nancy writebol has arrived safely. afghanistan is still a war zone. the pentagon confirming moments ago that an american general was killed. major general harold green, the deputy commander of the security transition in afghanistan he wasn t there he was help krt icf. we re going to see a lot more of this as our combat forces zero out. we re not going more and more
vulnerable not just to killed and wounded but to abductions. rand paul is in iowa where he is running and sometimes ducking. if you have a question, i m happy to answer it. i get paid a lot to be wrong. i m sure i ll be proven wrong here. he s a fascinating guy, he s a fascinating candidate and i think he has absolutely no chance to actually be elected president of the united states. you re talking about real hard choices. which would you rather fight, one horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses? we d have peace peace here, there a peace, everywhere a peace. welcome back to morning joe. so great to have you guys with us. man, the first two hours of flown. this hour, don t blink because it s i mean we have so much stuff to fill, and you re here with some really happy news, chuck todd. america needs prozac. no, no, you re going to tell us these poll numbers are like prozac for america.
absolutely right. chuck todd is here, he s got some polls. also we ve got managing editor of the news website, bobby ghosh, sara eisen and op-ed columnist dana milbank is here to cheer us up because dana always cheers everybody up. he writes only about the happiest things in washington. he s polly annish, i beneficiary he had would be a bit more biting at times. the economy is better. and see that s the thing, okay. the economy is no. hold on. the economy is better, sara, right? right. but nobody is noticing that it s better. well, no, they do notice. that was what was interesting about our poll. they know the economy is better. it s just not better for them. why are they so depressed? it s a number of things. first of all, they re not recovered from the recession. yes, financially they have recovered, but there are still one in three americans that are either supporting a child over
the age of 21 or a parent over the age of 65. the great recession made that. so you have these folks sitting there, they re digging out and sitting there going i m still dealing with the recession. yes, my income, by the way, flat, but i have a job and all these things, so i m still dealing with it even though you keep telling me the economy is better. so, sara, like 70% of americans, i m a politician so i round up or down. 70% of americans think we re going in the wrong direction. 80% of americans think washington is going in the wrong direction. talk to those 70% of americans and tell them why the economy is getting better, why things are improving. well, we saw a 4% growth number last week for the second number. that is a big deal. but you sort of do have this two-speed recovery going on between income. low income, middle income hasn t seen a recovery and wages is the story of why most americans aren t feeling it. adjusted for inflation, they haven t gone anywhere during
this entire jobs recovery. the good news is, though, job openings are at the highest level in multi years. the good news is we ve seen several months now a stretch of 200,000 plus jobs created in this country. easier to get a job now. employment rate going up because more people are actually looking. so easier to get a job. we need to see those wajges stat to go up. let s look at those numbers again. you would have thought yesterday people were jumping out of their windows. oh, my gosh, the stock market crashed. we re almost at 16,500. the numbers have just exploded and people don t feel it on main street at all. only half of the population owns stocks. they have been burned by the financial crisis. unless you have it in your mutual fund and retirement portfolios, you re not feeling a recovery in the stock market. look at these numbers from the poll. 64% of americans are not satisfied with the state of the economy, 35% are and that 1% not
sure. but you just said the stock market is rewarding companies for streamlining, for hoarding cash, for cutting people. the stock market does not reward companies for investing, for being entrepreneurial, for creating new jobs. so i think that that s why this is even worse on how people feel. the president s job approval, 40%. born policy just bleak. 36% approve, 60% disapprove. dana milbank, my god, here we are 2014, coming up on a midterm election. this is so lined up for the republicans, they are going to sweep through there. it s going to be a prairie fire sweeping across america. but wait, you look at congress job approval rating and the
american people say they suck. it s 14% approve of congress job performance rating. here s the party approval, dana. the gop 19%. only 19% have a favorable impression. 54% unfavorable. democrats, i was about to say all the way up at 31%. my parents were glad when i get 31s on my math tests but nobody else is. so, dana, washington, d.c., man, if i m an incumbent, i m thinking this year going into the election that i actually there is a chance that i could get challenged. it s bad news for d.c. it is bad news overall for d.c., but let me add some cheer and light to this. that s why you re here. that s why i m here, because i m always the glass is always half full for me. i don t think these numbers are that bad for president obama given how awful things are overall. and it s not just the economy that s bad. americans are depressed.
76% in this poll don t think their children are going to have a better life than they have had. so far they re right if we re talking about the millennials. 60% think the nation is in decline. when you ve got those kinds of numbers, more than 70% on the wrong track, for the president to be where he is, is quite extraordinary. and the pollsters are saying this does not indicate the sort of wave elections, so people are sort of universal in their discussion. so, dana, in the past you d look at right track, wrong track. you d look at the president s approval ratings and you d be able to predict for the most part other than 1998 what would happen in off-year elections. why is that not the case this year? because of the disgust with washington, 70% is universal. it s also because there s only so many ways voters can register their disgust because very few people are actually vulnerable when you look at the house in particular. and then, you know, you look at the senate. like last night s primaries, you
don t see a lot of anti-incumbent antagonism out there in the voters. they re depressed, they re disgusted with washington. they don t know particularly what to do about it. and, dana, of course every republican in washington, d.c. is going to be holding their breath and waiting for your answer on this because they know they can t wait to hear the answer to this. what is wrong with the republican party? oh, they ll be fine, joe, don t worry about it. no, i don t know that they will. i mean the question we ve been asking all morning is what do they stand for? i know people hate to talk about like when i ran for congress. i m sorry, i could talk about when i was a high school football coach. it wouldn t be as applicable. when i ran, everywhere i went people are saying what are you going to do if you actually get elected. i say we re going to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, shove it through the house. if you were a republican in 2014 and people says what are you going to do other than
investigate, investigate, and i m not talking the investigations, but what are you going to do other than investigate, seriously, what is the answer a republican can give? i mean i would say the campaign slogan boiled down for november is not that guy. so we are not president obama, we are not the democrats, and they figure and they re probably right, that will be enough to get them across the finish line this time. that s of course not enough in the long term and even in 2016 term because you actually do have to have some sort of an alternative here. so i mean they re playing a very short-term game here which may work and may feel that validated their strategy going into this but i don t see where you go starting in december. you know, chuck, i always love to say that i m living proof that in off-term elections you can beat something with nothing. in presidential elections you actually have to stand for something. i m not so sure in 2014 that s the case anymore. tom cotton should be up by ten points in arkansas.
he s not. republicans should have closed out mary landrieu by now in louisiana. they have not. georgia, still up in the air. there are a lot of red states where democrats are still holding on. part of the issue is independents are totally throwing up their hands. you see interest in this election by independents cratering. one of the reasons our poll says this isn t a wave election. interest is lower now than 06 or 10 to wave elections. the voters don t have amnesia. they voted for change three of the last four elections and they didn t get it and they re mad. by the way, you want to know what the future of the republican party looks like and what happens when the whole thing blows up in your face? what s that? look at kansas. kansas is a mess right now. sam brownback, a conservative. sam is in trouble. he s in big trouble. he only got 62% in a primary. he didn t really have a real challenger. why is sam in trouble right now? there s a couple of things. one is he was very aggressive and basically trying to leave
the charge to purge his party of moderates. he put in a tax bill that was fiscally the moderate republicans argued it was fiscally irresponsible, it was too much that he didn t pay for it. he went very much with a very aggressive tax-cutting policy. the wall street journal loves it, but half the party inside of kansas doesn t. but this is a state. the republicans are in charge. this is full-on being in charge. you can t point your finger at anybody else. and you re seeing almost an implosion here, an ideological implosion taking place inside of kansas. obviously the book years ago what s the matter with kansas talked about why do rural folks in kansas vote against their economic self-interests. but there s a different way, if you want to understand how the national republican party and congressional republicans could see the whole thing collapse on them, go look at kansas. sara, one final question about the polls and then i want to talk about afghanistan with bobby and just unbelievable news that came out yesterday. so it s fascinating, we were
talking about this last hour. you look at what americans want. they want the banks broken up in this wall street journal poll, they want corporate tax rates cut, very conservative, right? but they also want minimum wage raised. which conservatives don t love. and you can there are all of these contradictions. but there is actually a consensus that is not left or not right on economics. they want the 1% to get taxed more. a lot of different things going on here. and that s a reflection of the sluggish growth and sluggish income growth. what the business community wants from washington right now, immigration reform, we know that, and that s sort of on both sides of the aisle. corporate tax reform, also going to be very tricky to pull off. the party that campaigns should campaign on those factors that will boost the economy and will boost normal americans way of living and their incomes. you heard president obama talking to the economist magazine earlier this week, hostile with ceos and the business community saying that
they live in the hamptons and they should stop complaining. what the business community wants from the republican party is less regulation, dodd-frank financial regulation and obamacare and more proactive reforms. you talk about a reflection of cost cutting. they need to invest and have the confidence to hire. it starts with the ceos, say what you will about them and about businesses. if they get that confidence, that could go a long way to restoring incomes and helping the economy. the top ceos may not say it in front of a camera, but you talk about a lack of distrust in the president of the united states exactly. it is hostile. but the supposed party of business, this is a republican party that wants to dump the import/export bank, doesn t want to do immigration reform. the business community s agenda is not the republican the irony is obama is closer to what they want to get done i don t know about that. i know that, look, the epa thing is a different story, some
of these regulations. but let s talk about immigration reform and import/export, obama is their best ally. dana, it is something and the president can t seem to win for losing with wall street. and this has been this has been a bizarre relationship since 2009. he s done a lot of things. he didn t crack down on the big banks a way a lot of his own supporters want him to crack down. there are a lot of punitive measures that he could have taken. and the justice department could have taken against some of the malfeasance that occurred. he didn t do it, and yet he s still very unpopular on wall street. he hasn t been able to profit from that. chuck is right, there is a huge amount of antagonism. mo brooks from alabama who just yesterday or the day before was talking about the war on whites. he was making an argument against the wall street journal editorial page.
there s a huge divide there. if you look at the facts on the ground since then, they have little reason to be frustrated with him as opposed to what they re getting from congress but i think there s a long hangover effect there. if i were groucho marx, the duck would have come down because dana got in the war on whites phrase. congratulations, dana. you said the magic phrase. we gave people a bunch of lists on how to improve the economy. 78% picked this. increase fines and jail time for executives at financial institutions who broke the law would help. so you ve got a public out there that s actually ticked off that nobody went to ceos are upset that, hey, you re not doing the corporate tax rate. the public is upset that a ceo isn t in jail. and that s what the president is responding to.
there s a disconnect between america and the east coast. a republican candidate that goes out and is anti-big business and anti-big government does big things. watch out for rand paul. they re just not out there. rand paul running away from some of the things he said. he does run away. just a couple of years ago. literally we saw him run away. he literally ran away from the dreamers and now he s running away from what he said about cutting off all aid to israel. this morning changing stories from domestic to international. the pentagon is investigating an attack that left a two-star army major general dead. the highest ranking american killed in iraq or afghanistan. the 55-year-old major general was harold green, the second highest ranking american serving in afghanistan. he was overseeing the transition efforts in handing over u.s. responsibilities to afghan troops. green and other coalition forces were at camp tuesday when an
afghan soldier opened fire, seriously injuring several others before being killed and returning fire. bobby, my god, you look at this poll and there is so much to talk about. we could talk about russia, a possible invasion, what it did to the markets yesterday. we could talk about what s happening in the middle east. we re going to with the ambassador to the united nations for the plo coming up, but of course this hasn t happened since, i think, 70 or 71 in vietnam. the situation in afghanistan is just a mess. you talk about americans looking around going what s going on. so many americans still want to know why we re spending $2 billion a week in a war that we just can t win. well, i think that drawdown that the president has promised couldn t come fast enough for many americans. it is the most senior military official killed since vietnam. since we are desperately trying to look for good news this morning, the number of green on blue killings has actually come down. the target was a big one this
time. 2012 was huge. nearly 50, last year nearly 15, this year this is only the fourth, i think, all year, which is a smaller number. that s very small consolation. the opportunities for green and blue violence will reduce so fewer american soldiers, knock on wood, will die. but what this tells us is there is still a gigantic mess we re leaving behind there. if the afghan military cannot stand up, and the indications are not good, if they cannot stand up, that quickly will very quickly devolve back again into this cess pit and it will pull its neighbors, pakistan again and it is once again the place from where terror will be exported around the world. it s unbelievable all the lives that have been lost, all the money that s been invested in iraq and in afghanistan. here we are 12 years later, 13 years later, we re still looking for that thomas jefferson
figure. guess what, he s not there. well, he s not. it s been three months since presidential elections and they still haven t figured out who the president is. the two candidates are still fighting. john kerry tried to mediate there and that still hasn t happened. they re still counting the votes all over again. there s no one who s behaving like a statesman. never mind thomas jefferson. no one is willing to behave like a statesman. everyone is behaving like a narrow tribal or ethnic leader. and that s the nature of the problem. we would settle for far less actually. the afghans would settle for far less. wouldn t political rivals in a country that cared about this, they d be both serving in the government. wouldn t at this point that s what kerry tried to do. and that s what george washington did. he brought a bunch of rivals into that cabinet. you know, there actually is a model. i know, there is. chuck todd, thank you for being with us. dana, thank you for bringing your own special brand of sunshine to morning joe. you have lit us up. thank you for coming, i hope
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silicon alley. what exactly is silicon alley when it s at home? i think silicon alley now is just all of the tech activity that s happening in new york. i ve never found the one specific alley. you ve been looking since 98. since i moved in 98 i thought it was one street and i think it s most of downtown manhattan at this point. you ve got a pretty good streak, though. you ve got some great tech startups. yeah, we re doing okay. foursquare hob going for five years strong and i had a company before this. so is there a tech bubble? are we worried about a tech bubble? i was watching the pets.com commercial. i haven t seen that in forever. back then, that was people trying to sell a little bit of everything on the internet. the people that are selling stuff on the internet have figured it out. i think what companies like four square are doing now is trying to reinvent the world through this lens of data analytics and how can we reinvent the world with data. i think it s an entirely
different game now than it was back then. sara, you look skeptical. i ve been seeing these evaluations, they re eye-popping. you mentioned eastern airlines. does it make sense to you that uber, which is not a public company yet, is valued more than united airlines or whole foods? that s the valuation these types of companies are getting. you look at the potential of these companies. it s like is uber going to reinvent transportation logistics? are they going to be the broker by which people go and pick up their driverless cars. who knows what that future looks like but they re in a good spot to execute it. i was going to ask about the data analytics bring up. he who has the data wins, as we know with the nsa. so how are you trying to expand the footprint of what we ve come to know foursquare to be and how you see it moving beyond that so that you stay futureproof. what we ve been trying to do is build these amazing personalized local search ing n engines. why should all of us get the same search results if we re
looking for lunch or dinner in this neighborhood. we should learn from the way people experience new york city to give everyone different results. what if i don t want people to know where i am. it s not about people knowing where you are. its new foursquare is how can we take all this information about where people have been in the past and help you find spots perfect for you. like a yelp. but much smarter. with yelp all of us get the same results. but what foursquare is trying to do is you would get different results, you would get different results. thomas and i would get faur different results. if you re interested in creating a tech alibi, foursquare could be your end. i just learned that german factory orders fell off. way to bring that in. as dennis is pointing out you sound like a consumer that has used this as a tech alibi. no, not yet. but since we re thinking about it, i m always thinking about things. of course you are. but joe is bringing up the contrast about the fact that he
doesn t want people to know where he is so why is foursquare a viable service for him to use? and you ve got a new app, right? it s called social media. social. i never tell people where i am until i left three days ago. hey, look, it s beautiful in nantucket. one of the things we found out is not everyone wants to share their location all the time. so for the people that do want to do that, we launched a separate app for them and called it swarm. you can download it now. it s called swarm? swarm, yes. swarm is the one where you want to share that you re traveling to all these exotic places. i m going to line that one out. the new foursquare app is all about learning about the things that you like and so we can drive you toward the places we think you d love. let s say i want to find the best music spots in brooklyn and williamsburg. i go on the new four square app. yeah, either type in i m looking for live music or scroll over to night life.
based upon where people are going in realtime and based upon what people have said about those places, we help you find the best things that fit your taste. so we re talking about jobs. we re talking about americans being unhappy. i get that you re trying to transform industry and you re trying to change the world. what about jobs? what s up when it got acquired by facebook had 55 employees. are you guys creating jobs? i think we re creating jobs. it s very difficult to find software engineers that are incredibly talented. can i ask you about the immigration crisis, the immigration debate. how important is it for you to be able to get immigrants that, say, graduate from m.i.t. and then they have to go back home? it s tricky because we hit we re only allotted a certain amount of visas every year and we hit that limit every year. there s always people we d love to pull in but are above that limit. so it makes hiring talented
engineers even harder because we re up against those restrictions. how much of a difference would it make for you as far as global competitiveness if you didn t have those restrictions. i don t think it s just us. we would pick up a handful of engineers per year, which would be a huelp for us, but across te companies in new york and in the valley, i think it would make a big difference. all right, dennis, you ve convinced me there is no tech bubble and i m getting your new foursquare app. what s that watch? it s called anuka. so this for the camera. it s called a nuka watch. does it tell time? it does, yes. what else does it do? it tells the future. tells the future? in the future, four square is awesome. oh, that is so awesome. so, sara, before you leave, we always look at german factory orders to figure out what s going on. as you should. and you say german factory orders fell off a cliff and this
is important. because it is the russian factor. obviously the sanctions are starting to hit russia. europe and russia have a very close trade relationship. russia is the eighth biggest economy. thomas was just telling me this. this is not a small emerging markets economy, as thomas knows. so putin moves troops to the border of the ukraine, we feel it here yesterday on wall street. you saw it. just a headline, vulnerability, it s a fragile market out there. the geopolitical tensions especially in russia and ukraine are shaking confidence right now. dennis, thank you so much. thank you for having me. appreciate you being here. check out more on our website on afternoon mojo to find out more about dennis, foursquare and the watch that he wears. coming up next, israel and hamas are taking the first steps toward a long-term truce but a deal won t be struck without conditions. we ll talk about the prospects for a more stable cease-fire with the palestinian ambassador to the united nations coming up next.
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we re now in the second day of a 72-hour cease-fire between israel and hamas that for now still appears to be holding. with us now the ambassador for palestine to the united nations,
ambassador riyad mansour. thank you for having me. i was talking to an israeli journalist earlier and he talked about the horrors on both sides. he talked about the palestinian suffering. i mean saying things that you don t usually hear from israelis, that it s just that we may actually have an opening. is there an opening for peace out of this terrible tragic month of july? i hope so. it is not going to be easy, it s going to be very difficult. we have a delegation prese representing all the palestinians in cairo that has been there in a few days. i believe there will be an israeli delegation going to cairo today as well. i hope that we can begin the discussion in order to not allow for a 72-hour cease-fire but for a long cease-fire and to deal with the root causes of this situation. and hopefully lasting peace. yes. do you think the palestinian authority is going to have more
authority to negotiate with israel on a long-term peace deal since you have the saudis, the egyptians, uae and a lot of other states trying to bolster you and trying to push aside some of the more extreme elements of hamas? we succeeded in april of reaching an agreement to have a national consensus government. and that national consensus government represents everyone, including hamas. so for us in this national consensus government under the leadership of president mahmoud abbas, if we succeed by being empowered by everyone, including the international community, to be responsible for the transition of rebuilding gaza and having a long-lasting cease-fire and then to move into the political situation of negotiating the end of occupation and the independence
of the state of palestine so we can have two state solution living side by side in peace and security, then that would be the best thing not only for us, for israel and for the entire region. ambassador, you talked about the national consensus government that you agreed to in april. hamas was at that point at its historical weakest moment politically as well as militarily. what is your assessment of hamas position now after a month of fighting? there are some who say that hamas in some ways is stronger, at least politically, and if that is so then the dynamic within the coalition government changes. is hamas a political force that now you have to reckon with? hamas is a significant political force among the palestinians. the israeli government waged this war for several reasons, including the reason that they wanted to destroy the national
consensus government, to keep us divided and, therefore, weaker so that they can make us in a weaker position in terms of negotiation. now the challenges for us is not to allow the israeli government succeed in the destruction of the national consensus government, but to allow the national consensus government to lead the negotiation in cairo, to succeed in the negotiation there, to show the palestinian people in the gaza strip that it is the government that was able to make a difference in their lives by lifting the siege, opening the borders, allowing our fishermen to fish deep in 12 miles or beyond in the mediterranean sea where they can get most of the food for the people in gaza in terms of fish. if we succeed in these challenges, and i believe that the gentleman that you referred to, he was saying you cannot
have success in dealing with the situation in gaza without lifting the siege against the people in gaza. he is absolutely correct. we need to show especially the young, 50% of the people in gaza are under 18. we have to give them hope. so with that, and i ve made no secret of the fact that i m a long-time supporter of israel, but with that i would love for the borders to be open, for there to be the possibility. the egyptian border and more movement and less of a siege mentality there, but how do we guarantee security for the israeli people so hamas doesn t use that opportunity to just rebuild its war machine that not only undercuts israel, but undercuts what you re trying to do? well, we have to build on things that succeeded in the past. right. hamas and israel reached a
cease-fire agreement in the year 2012 under the auspices of the egyptians. president abbas was not involved in that. now we have a national consensus government that represent everyone, including hamas. if we have that cease-fire and build on it and add new things to it, such as the possibility of putting in place an observer force or group of people to observe the cease-fire, for the israelis that that observer force will create a deterrent atmosphere so that nobody will be firing anything from gaza towards israel, for us in the gaza strip, it will create a deterrent element where the israelis will not be executing palestinians in gaza and attacking gaza as they wish. so this new additional element which we are dewait batbating -
and also so israeli people don t have to worry about rockets raining down on them from ha hoss. but also when you have 11,000 killed and injured in four weeks, 80% of them are civilians, large number of children, this is a tragedy. it s so huge that is impacting the entire population, entire nation of the palestinians, including half a million displaced. there s no doubt it has been july has been one of the most tragic months, and let us hope that peace comes out of it. thank you so much. thank you very much for having me. and we hope you ll come back. nicolle had five or six questions, we just don t have time. okay. coming up, how baseball explains america. the author of that new book explains our obsession with america s national pastime. we ll be right back. 
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with us now, the senior correspondent for mlb.com, hal bodley, he s the author of how baseball explains america. one of the most important books written about baseball. that s a pretty damn good review by the new york daily news. that s true. it s also such a thick and deep part of our culture, baseball. explain what you ve been doing with your whole life, and it s all right here in this book right now. after covering baseball for 55, 56 years you have a lot of memories, a lot of tapes stored away, interviews you ve done with a lot of people and that type of thing. i wanted to bring it altogether. i thought i could do a memoir. i talked to ted williams in his underwear. i flew on air force one with george h.w. bush. then i thought, hey, that doesn t really work too good. what about baseball and how essential it is to our society. every day. i challenge you, can you go an
hour without using a baseball term in your language. you probably can t but it s such an important part of our society. it s essential, the people who have a great passion for the game. they love the game and made it possible. i tried to tie all that in and it s been very, very rewarding for me. i think all of us on this set agree that baseball was such an integral part of our country and our country s culture. do you worry at all about the pace of the game and the fact that the demographics of baseball are increasingly people our age and you re not too far from our age and we re losing some younger baseball fans because of the pace of the game? no question, mike. the games, when they last over three hours, i covered a nine-inning game in tampa bay the other day that was four hours long, it was so awful. i think the velcro, the players are tightening their gloves after every swing of the bat, that type of the game. they do have to speed it up. i think it s a big concern that we haven t been able to bring
the youngsters into the game, the little boys. my dad took me to yankees stadium in 1950, the world series with the phillies. we sat behind the dugout. joe dimaggio came to the plate. he put his arm around me and said pay very, very close attention to this because this is something you re going to remember the rest of your life. do dads take their kids to the ballpark as much as they used to? i m not sure they do. we have a contagious type of thing where kids get really involved. i think if the games were played more in the daylight and not so late at night, that would certainly help. so anthony bosh arrested yesterday. brings back the question of steroids, you have a chapter in the book about steroids. we all lived through the steroid era. we may or may not be over. i was a san francisco giants season ticket older. i watched barry bonds break all those records. context y
contextualize it. how do we look at that era and put it in proper context? i think our society struggles with it, obviously. i think that decade of the steroid era, it s very, very important we recognize it. if we ever use those record books, we have to have an asterisk in there. i think saying this is during the steroid era. for me personally i will never vote for any of these players that have tainted the game and been involved with steroids. so it s a very, very important thing. i was just going to say quick debate here, let s talk about something important. the greatest decade for baseball. i grew up in the 1970s. you had the oakland a s, hank aaron, willie mays was still playing, lou brock. it was an extraordinary decade. but you disagree with me. i do. i really do, joe. because i talked to tom brokaw, he wrote that great book the greatest generation. and i said to you agree with me that the 1940s was the greasest
generation in baseball? the greatest decade in baseball. and he said positively. i ll tell you the reason why. joe dimaggio s 56-game hitting street, ted williams batting over .400. you had all of these good players going to war. above all that, jackie robinson in 1947 breaks the color barrier. that has to be the greatest. it was very, very important to our society and to baseball. you know, you talk about baseball, though. i really do mark so many moments of my life. 1975 obviously what happened in game six, but i will forever remember being in dalton, georgia, at my grandmom s house on april 8, 1974, when al downing pitched that pitch to hank aaron. i mean there are just these are the moments that mark our lives, right? really. it s how baseball explains america. you know, it s so important. and that moment when hank broke that record, that has to stand. and the fact that there was somebody that had peds that
helped go above that record the records are so sacred in baseball. it s still hank aaron. we shall return. it s how baseball explains america. hal bodley, thank you so much for being here. always my pleasure. we ll be right back. where the reward was that what if tnew car smelledit card and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that i m 16 and just got my first car feeling. presenting the buypower card from capital one. redeem earnings toward part or even all of a new chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac - with no limits. so every time you use it, you re not just shopping for goods. you re shopping for something great. learn more at buypowercard.com i m alex trebek.
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into your home tonight. that is special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. greta goes on the record right now. listen to what president obama thinks the real problem is. stop being mad all the time stopping this hating all the time. come on, let s get some work done together. west joins us. good evening, sir. we need to stop being mad all the time and hating all the time because we need to get some work done. that s way apparently. what the most important thing the president needs to start to understand it s all about the rule of law when you look what is happening on our border all you have to go is back to the coon substitution article 1 section 8 it talks about the congress having authority over nationalization. he does not. look at article 4 section 4 where it talks about the federal government is
supposed to protect the states from invasion. any time you have people illegally coming across your border that s what you have. now you have political football trying to make the best hay day out of this situation instead of getting control of it very early on and making sure that we backed up the united states border patrol agents, got the national guard down there, established a process and procedures to quickly identify these individuals and return them back to their homes and change that 2008 law. but now everyone is about to vacate washington, d.c. and what s going to happen here while they are on vacation, all of these illegals are going to show up in schools all across the country and hard working middle income families are going to have to pay for that. you know, when i hear the president say stop being mad, stop hating, do you know what i think of? how about everybody start working? start keeping your promises, how about start sticking around town and doing your job and keeping the border secure if that s what everybody wants and tax reform if that s what
everybody wants. i have a whole list. stop being mad and hating. people are mad and hating because none of this is getting done. well, see, one of the things you have is a president that is still out there on a campaign trail and having these rallies with, i will be very honest, vladimir lennon idiots populist type of phrases about stop being mad, stop hating. that s not the type of cloakialisms we need to have. we need to have leadership and someone to govern. look at what is happening in the ukraine and israel and hamas, rise of isis and that calafate. i just read today that now in eastern libya the ansar al sharia the forces that the president decided to work with and provide them resource and now they have claimed an islamic calafate in eastern libya. we have so many problems going on. we don t need a president out there still conducting rallies and try to build up his own popularity. you know, it s the whole idea. his numbers are going down,
you know, and if he thinks. that s the reason why. i know. i know exactly. but when he came into office he had high numbers. people were inspired. a lot of the people who made up those numbers are the ones that are now quite angry because the things he said he was going to accomplish he didn t do. and now, of course, he is he blaming it on political opposition. every president has political opposition. you are absolutely right. i think what we are seeing in the case of barack hussein obama and talk is cheap. he is not able to come through with awful these promises and cause recede and all of these other things he talked about. but he is going about the fundamental transformation of america. and many people are starting to understand what that means. just yesterday when you heard the president talk about the 4% g.d.p. increase. reali when you look at the aggregate of the past six months we have only had 1.9% g.d.p. even worse, 74% of that g.d.p. is our debt. that s the debt to g.d.p.
ratio that we have. that s very alarming. congressman, thank you, sir. thank you so much, greta. and today a stunner. lawmakers packed and ready to head off on vacation and just as soon as they vote on a border bill they were going to get out of town. then chaos. all went off the rails. big change in plans. fox news congressional correspondent mike emanuel on capitol hill with the latest. mike, what happened? a lot of vacation plans ruined tonight. that s right, greta it was really a roller coaster day on capitol hill. had you house republican leaders searching for a way to get to 218 votes to pass their 659 border security bill. nancy pelosi turned up the pressure saying her side was not going to help the republicans get to that number. so it looked like it was off, that they were not going to have a vote. lawmakers started heading for the airports and then they started calling the folks saying come back, there may be votes still possible. now they are looking at, perhaps, tweaking the bill tonight and they are going
to meet tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. to see if, perhaps, waiting overnight has built some pressure. some minds have changed. but bottom line at a time when the house is going to sue president obama for doing too much, executive overreach, a number of members that i have talked to say they cannot see leaving for five weeks of recess without doing anything on immigration and so that is where we are tonight. greta? mike, thank you. and joining us now is congressman how are you doing, sir. steve king from iowa. thank you very much for joining us. the thought of leaving before this is done is not just sort of an immigration bill. this has been described by the president, by republicans and democrats as a humanitarian crisis. can you in good conscience leave town without this being settled? well, i would say i don t think so. in fact, i don t think we will need to. i m optimistic that we are going to reach an agreement. i went to the border last weekend and we went through two days of intensely on the
ground and then another day to start it up again. and we have seen a lot of this. and the look of some of these children in the eyes and mothers in the eyes and border patrol officers down there. you have looked your colleagues in the eyes? you have looked at the president in the ice and democrats in the eyes? you have looked the american people in the eyes? because we are all waiting. i have looked more colleagues in the eye in the last day than i have in the week procedure prior. and there have been many of those kind of discussions. we have been in conference today. once there was a realization that votes were not there to pass the bill. then it went into the meltdown mode. and we had a family discussion that started out with some humor and it got intense in there. but i stepped up to the microphone and i said here is what i am willing to do. i had offered an amendment last night before the rules committee that would have fixed this bill that needed help. it was turned down by the rules committee. then, therefore, the votes weren t there to pass the bill. and we have just come from the negotiation meeting now i break out of there. i think we get an amendment
to the bill the otm language that was problematic. otm meaning. what other than mexican language. other than mexican children the same way we treat mexican children. 2008 law. fixing a 2008 law. i had written that fix about 8 weeks ago. i didn t want to introduce it because i didn t want a vehicle for the gang of 8 in the senate. language very close to that is agreed to. we re going to call it the carter attarhotl amendment. silence language is going to be too difficult to get that done. even with the language in it you can vote for it tomorrow? i think if the amendments that we agreed to as i got up from the table are written and drafted in the fashion that i understand, i think i will be able to stand up and publicly say, i will support the amendments that are offered and i will support the final passage of the bill. so you need 218 votes, at least the republicans do to pass. this in the event there aren t 218 votes tomorrow, will you stick around town until we finally can resolve this? you know, i don t know if we get this thing done on
the senate side. for me, i will either stay here or come back. whatever it takes. if everybody leaves. one of the good things, bad things, however you look at it. deadline is the only thing they can oftentimes get any sort of legislation done in this city. and you have got almost sort of this one is particularly troublesome because humanitarian crisis. we hear that there is a background. we hear everybody goes to the airport. now everybody came back. who in his right behind thought it was a good idea to go to the airport in any idea with this problem looming. i don t think the american people like that. we didn t have to wait for very many republicans to come back. did i see one in blue jeans in conference. i don t mind the blue jeans. as long as you show up, i don t care how you dress. you can wear jeans in here most republicans stayed because we want a solution. we went into that room and hammered out something. fix the otm language. i wanted to fix the asylum language and fix a loophole on that ban on funding. that s the most powerful message to address it. because the president is
waiving ink pen. legalize 5 to it 6 million people. probably as soon as the house or as congress leaves town. we have got to send a message that we re not going to just simply go silent on the president s unconstitutional actions. we have 10 seconds left. do you think speaker boehner will close up the house without a a vote on this? without a passage? i think we have a vote tomorrow morning. and i think that we re likely then to gavel out and go back for august and hope the senate does something. all right. we ll be watching very closely. nice to see you, sir. this is a fox news alert. on the board dhs says now it is the border patrol workers getting diseases like scab buys, lies and chicken paulks. very latest bill joins us. bill, what s the latest? yeah, greta. that s right. this is a brand new report from dhs that just came out yesterday from the office of
the inspector general. giving us a pretty general overview specifically of what s going on in texas with these illegal immigrant and some the health concerns coming about from it. it s reporting back in del rio, texas, sort of south central texas, that some border agents have been infected with scabies, lies and chicken pox and even worse than that, it says that two border agents are reporting that their children have now been infected with chicken pox just a few days after they had come in contact. 20 to 30 minutes late from el paso. we are getting reports that at those stations two agents believe they have been infected, possibly with tuberculosis. we did get some new numbers, he is telling us 153 unaccompanied children, adults have been treated at
el paso hospital for things like lice, scabies, chicken pox. since july, 43 border patrol agents have filed some type of paperwork believing they have been infected with some type of communicable disease. two agents have confirmed they have been treated for getting scabies. thank you. thank you, greta. tonight refurbished detention center north of the rio grande valley will house women and children. the facility just got major renovations but get, this each disawld suite will be furnished with flat screen tvs and phones. also a soccer field, basketball courts, ping-pong tables and a weight room. how much do you think that bum healthcare.gov obamacare web site cost you? 50 50 million? 200 million? no, try $840 million. that s how much the glitch
plagued web site has cost you the taxpayers. the government accountability office releasing a scathing review of the mismanaged web site before today s hearing. the administration couldn t meet deadlines and didn t have the organizational skills to manage this massive overtaking. clear this was a more complex project and needed a lot more work than people expected. we still do not know if the administration has a system in place capable of handling consistencies, web security, or the cms will ever put in place a functioning payment system. i don t understand why my colleagues across the aisle continue to defend this thing. how much should healthcare.gov have cost? that s a really good question. i m not sure i know the taxpayer dollars are paying for this and the people don t like it. there are absolutely inefficiencies and waste. joining us or political panel washington examiner susan ferrechio, a.b.
stoddard and john mccormick. $840 million. 150 of it was overruns just for the healthcare.gov web site. wow, we are in the wrong business. it s incredibly embarrassing they spent that much money and had how many years to build this thing and didn t work. clearly embarrassing. bigger problems coming out are beyond this web site. it s a political problem. if you look at the polls right now by a two to one margin people say they are hurt rather than helped by the law. i think this thing is going to continue to drag them down even though you have other scandals a huge issue. bigger issue is this illegal question. right now in the courts there is a lawsuit working its way through that says the irs illegally provided healthcare subsidies to residents in 36 states because of the way they wrote the law. is f. this is upheld by the supreme court we don t know if it will get there. entire law. the u.s. court of appeals the d.c. circuit made that decision. a couple hours later the fourth circuit. the u.s. court of appeals made the opposite decision. this end up in the municipal court. a.b. the official today testifying said expect for bumps during the 2015
obamacare enrollment period. is that after the midterm election or before? i think it s it around the same time or slightly earlier. but i think he did his job to lower expectations. one thing they have learned is not to say that healthcare.gov is going to function effectively and all going to be smooth sailing for anyone trying to enroll. they cannot do that ever again. i think years from now they will be telling us that living with technical glitches is part of the process. that said, they admit web site did not perform requirements. not ready. still unfixed, still unfinished and it will cause a headache for people who have been convinced that when they come back it s going to be better. it s going to go smoothly they will indeed, if they pay will be ensured. they might get their subsidies if they are due them i think john is right with this possible news that insurance companies are going to raise rates late this summer, early this fall
that is going to make the enrollment problem look like small pie people finding out those that are enrolled their rates are skyrocketing. susan, 150 million overrun. how can can they do that to the taxpayers? first of all, they say it s going to cost a fortune. then $150 million more. the cost of the border bill everyone is fighting over 869. this is 840 million gone. what does this poor tend for people s healthcare going over? if it s just a mess getting technology and getting it set up. what is it going to mean for people going forward. if you get sick. go to the doctor oh, sorry, you you are not really covered. or you have to pay taxes you didn t think you were going to owe. all these things together, i think the most important element of this is how it s going to effect people personally. people hear 850 million. well, i m not really paying that, am i? you are really suffering
when you can t get the treatment you need. and if the incompetency at this level is bad right now. what is that going to mean for everybody s healthcare going forward? in other words, fasten your seat belt for what we may run into? absolutely. panel, stay with us. jay carney may be the former white house press secretary but is he taking on the white house press corps again. you have to see this exin. also developing now. ebola virus is heading to the united states. the latest coming up. oooh discover the fearless protection of tena. so absorbent even when you twist not a drop escapes. nothing s missed with tenatwist thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice.
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former press secretary jay carney may have left the white house but is he still taking on the white house press corps, at least on late night tv. it s very interesting to seat difference between the briefing in the white house fully televised, carried
live online tweeted about as it happens and the offcamera but on the record briefings that i would do on air force one with the traveling press corps on the plane. the difference is like night and day. in terms of the tenor the seriousness of the questions is the same. in some cases more serious off camera. but the kind of posing and histrionics and, you know, foe indignation that you get sometimes. look, i have a lot of respect for my former colleagues in the press. they are doing a good job. i think when you are on tv, you tend to play to the cameras. putting on a show for the company and the folks back home. and our panel is back. john, he sounds a little raw, bitter, and maybe the press corps got a little annoyed when he didn t give them the answers. jay carney s whole job was to not answer their questions. it makes sense if you are a reporter for a tv channel you will want to press him on that multiple times when he is there so you can show the whole world jay carney
won t answer your questions. is it show biz? not entirely. it s important when a politician won t answer a question. show they didn t have a chance to get in the a word. stonewall you and trying to withhold information. since that was jay carney s primary job to stonewall the press and keep information from them. i completely understand why people were down there working for news organizations want to show everyone that jay carney is either they catch him in an untruth or pressing him to show the whole world. a.b., i thought he didn t answer a lot of questions. i thought he spun the media a lot. maybe that is his job. i would have been pretty annoyed if i were sitting in that room. i agree with john it s his job not to reveal more than they want revealed. and that s the case with every press secretary. is that doing his job? it s to answer questions as much as they can. but. transparently well, it s their job is to answer questions and look like they are answering questions and giving out some facts. they are not going to say everybody that they are talking about in private briefings, the press is going to continue to ask for that information.
that s always gone on and it always will. there is no question in the age of tv that if you break news in the briefing in an exchange with the white house press secretary it makes your boss very happy as well as your mom back home. and, in addition to that, there is a level of shaming that the press engages in that behind closed doors, john could scream at a white house press secretary and say you haven t answered cause carney to yell back. on tv carney might just sort of break and break down. that s why white house reporters do it. see, i actually think it flips the other way, susan, in private if i didn t think the the cameras were around i might blast them more than with the cameras. more respectful with the cameras than behind closed doors if i thought someone wasn t giving the information. i think what a.b. is saying is true. the shaming issue. i think that the press has felt pressured to put more pressure on the press secretary because they are not getting information. and that s a story in itself
out there. and that s why you see the more animated in these press briefings. they don t want to look like they are laying down and not getting answers and information. that s as much a part of it. it s true that these animated exchanges between reporter and press secretary make the evening news and they can be very helpful to a reporter s career. aside from that, i think it has nothing to do with the relevancy of the questions i hear asked. and the degree to which people are very animated. because they are not getting answers. and they are being very persistent with the press secretary luckily. i think that s important. i would be much more toned down with the cameras on than i might be be. sometimes that s the only way you can get them to answer when you know the camera is on you, you may be more likely to get something because the pressure is on him. perhaps. anyway, panel, thank you. developing now news in israel and hamas have just agreed to another humanitarian cease-fire. how long a live report from gaza is next.
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this is a fox news alert. israel and hamas agreeing to unconditional cease-fire starting tomorrow. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu vowing to destroy the hamas tunnel network with or without a cease-fire. and israel s military calling up another 16,000 reservists, fox news correspondent conor powell live in gaza city with the latest. conor. we have seen previous
cease-fires crumble before they got underway. we think this one might be different. what we know is the uts and the u.n. point out a joint statement tonight saying both hamas and israel have agreed to a 72 hour cease-fire starting tomorrow morning and that crucially both sides have agreed to stay in the current location during this cease-fire. that was sort of a necessity for an agreement really for both sides. we also know that israel has said they would not agree to a cease-fire until they were done destroying all of these cross order tunnels between gaza into israel that hamas has used for these attacks. we also know that israel is getting very close to finishing, destroying the 32 tunnels that they had located. so it seems as if this cease-fire may have come at a time when israel is very close or has finished up knocking out these cross border tunnels. hamas at both the national sort of local leader here in gaza has agreed to it. we also know that the international leader in qatar has also agreed to it
we also know that israel and all palestinian organizations have sent delegates to cairo to further negotiations. another sign that this cease-fire may actually hold. but we have seen so many cease-fires, greta, that have crumbled really before they have even gotten started. it s way too early so far to say that this is the cease-fire that s going to end this conflict. right now in gaza, it is very quiet. we can hear drones flying over. we heard a couple and seen a couple of explosions. for the most part gaza is very quiet. very, very dark tonight. and there is hope, obviously, that this is the cease-fire that s going to bring about sort of a lasting continued violence of the violence here right now, greta. conor, thank you. joining us israeli prime minister netanyahu s chief spokesperson mark, good evening, sir. good evening to you. now, i understand from listening to the prime minister many times that the goal is to destroy all those tunnels that hamas has been using to smuggle weapons
into gaza and then fire, of course, rockets into israel. can you tell me how extensive this whole tunnel system is? or was, i should say? well, it was i-they were building an extensive network of underground tunnels through which they could infiltrate. literally hundreds of terrorists into israel. they would pop up at points around the border area but on our side of the frontier, with automatic weapons, with explosives, with rocket propelled grenades and they would cause mayhem and murder on our side of the frontier. and that s why we are dealing now with this network of tunnels, because this was a strategic threat to our country. we just can t allow this to continue. it s like having a knife at your throat. we have to remove that knife. how long have they had these tunnels? i realize it s an operation to build them. when did they sort of get going in ernest? we believe they have beenwore
tunnels for 2, 3, 4 years now. what they have done is taken money donated to the palestinian people in gaza to build schools and health clinics and hospitals. and they stole that money and they invested it in these terror tunnels. cement that was meant, as i say, to build a hospital was put into these tunnels. it s a very elaborate system. a network of terror tunnels that spread out like fingers under the ground. people in southern israel are concerned. we have got a border fence and we have got lights there and we have got security, but the fear is that someone just pops out of a hole in your backyard, armed to the teeth, comes to kill you. it s a threat that we take very seriously and we have to neutralize that threat. are you surprised by what you re seeing or has israeli intelligence known exactly where these tunnels were, how extensive they were or
is this a big surprise to you as you go along? i have known about this for a while. for months now. i have seen it in meetings. but not just the existence of them, but where they are, where they have been? well, that is right. we knew that they were working on tunnels. we knew that this was their way of trying to infiltrate into israel to kill our people. and we are aware of the threat. did we know the exact number? and exactly where they are? the answer is not. and that s why it s so important that we re there on the ground now. on their side of the border of the gaza strip because only by being there only by boots on the ground to possibly locate and destroy all these tunnels. that s why my prime minister said a few hours ago, benjamin netanyahu said we will continue the operation against the tunnels with a cease-fire or without, because we can t allow this threat to remain because
it s a real threat. it s a present and real danger to the people of israel. do you have any idea tonight about what percentage of the tunnels have been degraded or are destroyed? we have taken out dozens of tunnels, but we are still searching for more. we believe that will take a while longer. i can t be specific on how long that will take. but that operation is ongoing, and we will get most of them will get the overwhelming majority. we can t guarantee 100% success, but we will get pretty close. and can you see more of our interview with the israeli prime minister chief spokesperson. just go to gretawire.com. and the israel/hamas war sparking a waive of anti-semitism across europe. ambassador john bolton is here now. the ebola virus about to be transferred back to the united states. the latest coming up. super pole
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france nether lands to germany. sense of semitism sparked by the israel/hamas war. former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us. this adds a whole another ugly dimension to this story. it does. i must say that the anti-smem particular sentiment has been growing in europe in the past couple of decades. reflected not in the old fashioned way of the jews control the international financial markets, the jews control the media the jews controls what whatever it is you don t like today. it s a little more subtle and dangerous. it focuses on the legitimacy of israel itself. the zionism itself is a form of racism. you see people afraid to say anything about islamic extremism yet they have no problem going out and protesting the jews, which is just astounding to me. well, in part it s because the jewish people have exactly one country in the world, israel. so it s very easy to focus on the anti-semitism.
you know, when we repealed the u.n. general assembly resolution that equated with zionism, with racism in 1991, actually thought the problem was going to go away. it hasn t. can you see it now in the activity of the u.n. human rights council, the u.n. commissioner for high commissioner for human rights. and a lot of the european attitudes towards israel i think reflect very poorly disguised anti-semitism. it s one thing to to have catalyst like a war and people take sides, even without the war, you said this has been going on for decades. unfortunately you can t legislate against. it s really hard to make someone who is a bigot not a bigot. especially in countries like germany, they would be poo particularly sensitive to this issue: they would work to try to put the lid on it. i have to say chancellor merkel has spoken out against it i think she is to be commended. what i worry about is that our government has not spoken to the question. not the president. and even worse the secretary of state has seidelled up
the anti-semitism i want to be very careful here. i m not saying they are anti-semitic. some months back in israel, secretary kerry said if the israelis don t make concessions to the palestinians who would be surprised if efforts in europe to delegitimize israel to the so-called boycotts, divesture didn t grow? i think in effect giving them a green light. that s a very dangerous approach. look, people have poor choice of words and sometimes are sloppy in what they this comes across being perceived as something never intended. big difference of being sloppy and clumsy what you say and taking to the streets and marching up and down with the poster. well, the question is who is giving the attitude that they will be receptive to the notion actions are legitimate. some in this country like to say that recall vaps mere presence on the west bank is somehow illegitimate as if winning a war doesn t count for something.
there is a whole background to this that has allowed an amount of anti-semitism in europe to manifest itself through apparently being opposed to specific israeli policies. which is anti-semitism. bigotry is just horrendous and. going to get worse unfortunately. ambassador, thank you. and the cdc sending urgent new warnings to americans about the spread of ebola. up next ebola victim says her husband almost brought the virus to the united states. that s next. for over a decade,
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this is a fox news alert. a patient with the ebola virus is heading to the united states. emery university hospital in
atlanta say there are plans to transfer an infected patient to the facility in the in connection with few days. no word hot patient is and when the patient will arrive in the u.s. the medevac pain with the cdc biological containment systems on board is headed to liberia. two american aid workers in west africa are battling it has killed another u.s. citizen. patrick sawyer died after getting on a flight from liberia to nigeria. weeks away from getting on flight to the u.s. his family lives in minnesota. his wife says he was headed there soon. good evening, i m terribly sorry to hear about your husband. yes. thank you and good evening to you, too. good evening. did you know that he was sick? did you know that he was coming in contact with people with ebola? i found out that he was sick on thursday of last week. thursday afternoon.
and then friday morning at 3:00 a.m. in the morning, i found out that he died. he was working for the the liberian government. he was working and he was in nigeria ebola. and he was quarantined in nigeria. ebola. what kind of work was he doing or caring for someone? yes. well he was caring for his sister. it was. i had found out that his sister was sick about a week prior. and and she died.
what it was. but i do know he helped care for his sister while she was sick. but then it was after she died that her body was tested positive for ebola. and so and now and more trouble is you have young children, he was coming to the united states soon for birthday for your children. and you are unable to even get his death certificate or take care of the remains. i understand there is a problem with that. yes. yes. it s a problem with that. patrick was definitely coming to the united states after he was through with nigeria. he was coming to the united states for the girls birthday party. having their birthday party august 16th for our two older girls, ava and me a they re turning 6 and a and i shared the date with patrick and nothing would have stopped patrick from coming to his girls
birthday party. he loved those girls so much he wanted to be here for them. so, yeah. he definitely was coming. and now that he is dead,nough ts going on. what is even worse now is that i am unable to get his remains. they i haven t heard anything back from the liberian government for quite a few days now. i was in communication with them immediately after it happened. and i was assured that they were going to bring back his, you know, send it to me. and i needed asap, you know, i need we re planning a memorial, and it s been hard i m not getting there is no communication now between them and me. so i have taken the next step in trying to get his remains back. patrick is a u.s. citizen. you know, is he a u.s. citizen and he was very proud of that when he got
his citizenship and got to vote for the first time in the last presidential election. he was very proud to be able to vote. so, you know, i m reaching out to my government to help me get my husband s remains back and actually senator al franken s office has been able to intercede and ask we speak i have gotten the word back from them and they are working on that for me. so i want to thank them for stepping in. thank you very much. i m terribly sorry for you and also for your children who lost their father. i m sorry. thank you and god bless you. and today cdc warning americans not to travel to countries hit by the ebola outbreak. how great is the risk. president obama declined to alter plans after the summit. many african-american leaders are heading to washington. u.s.a. administrator raja will take part in the
summit. this is a big event coming up next week. now i assume ebola will be a big topic? ebola has been an existing partnership that we have with west african countries a response including making the safety of american citizens their first and highest priority. but our hearts are,our sympathies and prayers go out to patrick and those kids and other victims and their families. are these other countries receptive to us? i mean, are we able and i don t want necessarily us to big foot other countries, but we certainly may have a lot more resources than others. are they receptive to have us go in there and try to help out? they are. they are very receptive. in fact, we have technical advisors and centers for disease control expert personnel providing support to help these countries. in fact, we have long standing large scale help partnerships with countries
throughout africa. it s less known to the american public but with the small amount of foreign aid and assistance, we are actually able to save hundreds of thousands of children lives every year by helping to distribute vaccines and malaria and other efforts that are helping to turn the tide in africa and build more vibrant, safer and more prosperous economies. probably worried coming here? is this i mean, the cdc just says there is low risk. with you, what is the risk? the cdc says it s safe and they re leading this effort. there are passengers screening protocols in the place on both sides of these flights managed by the cdc and so we are confident that that protocol is robust. let me turn to this big event next week. what else is on the agenda? well, this event is really an extraordinary first of its kind moment to demonstrate that america s partnership with africa has the potential to be a driver of growth and opportunity
for both countries, continents and all of the partners and participants. we will see major participation from american businesses with billions of dollars of new announcements of business partnerships. partnerships designed to build african capacity and help countries fight poverty and ill health and be more robust. have more opportunity for hundreds of millions of africans. it should be an upbeat positive story that s made possible really because we have pursued this new model of engagement for african partners for many years now. i have heard that the sierra leone president won t be making it because of the outbreak. we don t have confirmation of what she will be doing. she is busy? we do know there were l. be more than 40 heads of state. on a strong bipartisan basis over the course of years, we have been able to really help make a difference in africa. raj, nice to see you, thank you. coming up, cia confesses to
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and breaking news democratic senator mark udall calling for cia director john brennan s resignation. today, the cia admitting to spying on the u.s. senate. the agency s inspector general concluding cia officials improperly hacked the senate intelligence committee computers. senator udall intelligence committee members saying the report shows john brennan mislead the public. mislead is a pretty way to say lied, maybe? let s all go off-the-record for a minute. i agree with senator mark udall, cia director john brennan should resign. that s not all. there is a lot more. i smell a ratted and a squishy apology from the cia director should not push this matter under the rug. earlier today, cia director john brennan apologized toot senate intelligence committee leaders for spying on them. that s not a mistake. that is a crime and a big
one. on the cia s own web site, it says domestic spying by the cia is a crime. and the only way it is not a crime and this is where i get a bit suspicious, is if the attorney general of the united states authorizes domestic spying. that, of course, would be eric holder. so, did the attorney general authorize domestic spying? if he did, he needs to tell us why. he owes the american people those answers. and if eric holder didn t authorize the spying, he needs to do his job and prosecute, convene a grand jury immediately. i don t buy for one second the department of justice previous statement that there is not enough evidence for a a criminal investigation. that statement is a lie. testimony t. smells like a coverup to me. there could not be more evidence the cia director just admitted it happened. that s called a confession. how much more evidence does the attorney general need? smell a rat? that s my off-the-record comment tonight. thank you for being with us. we will see you all again tomorrow.

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