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Multiple things, this is an effort to degrade the country, to make it into a joke. these are people striding through the hallways that once were the work area of i don't know abraham lincoln, teddy roosevelt and f.d.r. these are serious men that stayed up late every night thinking about how to make the country better. and now there's that guide and a lot of people like that and cindi lauper celebrating gay marriage which has been legal since the obama administration. what is going on here? again, it's an effort to degrade the country, but as a political matter, it's a distraction. offend you s...

The post war order in europe. >> that's a victory for putin, a loss for putin would be something that we have seen some signs of happening here, that is some unity within the nato alliance in terms of standing up to the threat of the invasion, but also some movement of nato forces further east into eastern nato allies which is exactly what putin's claims is a threat to him. there is a tendency to treat him as a brilliant and flawless manipulator and strategist, but he makes mistakes. i wonder do you think he may have had his bluff called here? >> i sure hope so. i was pleasantly surprised to s...

Member of the nato alliance. and estonia and the other baltic states have a similar view, if putin were allowed to take over ukraine, that he wouldn't stop there, his next aim would be eastern nato allies that used to be former soviet republics. do you think that is a correct impression, that that is the precedent that would set? >> well, i would certainly be worried about that if i were the prime minister of a front line nato state. because once russia has tackled the post war order in europe, by using military force to change states boundaries, then everything is open to question and america...

Russia is challenging essentially the post war order in europe. and there is a parallel between what russia is doing in ukraine and what china is threatening to do in taiwan. and so as the ties that bind west and east and europe and russia and others together begin to weaken, there are greater opportunities for misunderstanding. and we are seeing greater conflict now. there is a very, very real and perhaps growing possibility that we'll have conflict. >> and jamie, as china continues to become more self-sufficient, reducing its vulnerabilities and reliance on the u.s. and its allies, does amer...

Moscow's large-scale attack launched on Ukraine erases any lingering doubts about where Russia’s president wants to go. Vladimir Putin is taking back part of the Soviet empire and attacking the European post-War order. Europe and NATO must respond, by arming the eastern flank.